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Lay it all on the line today. Plus it's not like they wouldn't be able to pare down payroll a little next summer with the ending contracts.
That's a legit concern. Parker definitely hasn't demonstrated he can be Kobe to Duncan's Shaq on a 2-man team surrounded by role players.
It may be that the limited minutes that Manu is playing these days can extend his career, or the Spurs might somehow find a way to land another legit star when Manu starts wearing out. If neither of these happens, you'll be dead right.
Lay it all on the line today. Plus it's not like they wouldn't be able to pare down payroll a little next summer with the ending contracts.
Exactly! Most people don't realize how extremely difficult is to win a championship, let alone, build a championship team that could last many years. I would rather win 2-3 more championships in the next 4-5 years than playing it safe financially and perhaps not win ever again.
With TD and Manu in their primes: Win now, worry later.
WTF is up with the Sato avatar?
Manu is very inconsistent, the spurs go by how he plays. When its an off nights, spurs win by 2-8 or lose by 10. Its scary when Manu struggles
Duncan and Parker are gonna be the steady horse. but Manu needs to be more consistent like James Worthy was to Magic and Kareem.
I guess it comes down to how important the team's net income is vs. winning. If you can be a contender and save millions by being under the cap is that better than making the team stronger and making less money?
The financial side of the equation is that after the Big 3 is past their prime are people going to still buy tickets to see the Spurs play? Maybe the thinking is let's make a lot of $$$jack while we can and stay as compe ive as possible.
Yet most of the free agents the Spurs could sign (Udoka, Barnes) and conceivably could have signed (Scola) will be on at most 3 year deals. Plus another item which seems to go unnoticed in this forum is that the Spurs will have $20 mil coming off the books next summer in Horry, Finley, Barry, Elson, and Udrih, with Splitter and Mahinmi stuck on rookie contracts at $700K starting when they join. The Spurs will have plenty of payroll relief coming down the pike next summer.
Gotta save up during the fat years, to pay off the lean years. Joseph, Egypt, and the whole Bible thing taught me that.
$20 mil's coming off next "fat" year.
Well they may try to resign Bowen, maybe Finley too. They will also have to spend between 5-8 million (whatever they have left under the cap) to replace all those fat contracts. They only have a couple cheap contracts (Splitter, possibly Mahinmi, whatever their draft pick is) coming on board to replace all those players that are leaving. Meaning they may only save about 8 million or so out of that 20 million. Still in good shape for Holt, but that "fat" year is becoming quite a bit leaner.
Splitter at $700K replaces Elson at $3.3 mil. Bonner will replace Horry. Barry's gone and it's unlikely the Spurs pay $5 mil for the next 4th swingman.
You aren't going to be able to come up with anything close to $12 mil, let alone $20 mil. And an $8 mil reduction would put them well out of sight of the lux tax threshold.
Well if they resign Bowen to about a 3 million per year deal, Splitter and Mahinmi (assuming he comes over) comes to about 1.5 million combined, if they spend 5-8 million on FA (depending on their cap room), that brings us to 9.5-12 million of that 20 already spoken for, if they replace all the lost contracts with minimum deals we're well into the 12 million dollar range, quite possible a good bit over. Still safely under luxury tax, Holt is still doing fine, but they aren't gonna lose $20 million worth of contracts and pocket the money. They'll have to be replaced. Maybe they don't resign Bowen, maybe they don't spend 5-8 million on FAs. But that's for next year to decide. Right now, however, a lot of that 20 million is spoken for. Guess we'll see.
So $9 to 12 mil is gone if they spend $5 to 8 mil in free agency and $8 to 11 mil will be off the books. That's a bit less than "most" of it being spoken for.
Plus they'll have a few minimum deals that will have to round out the roster, that could bring that 9-12 to 11-15 depending on which minimum deals they work out. Shrug. Don't know what you call most or whatnot, but there it is.
They will enjoy a substantial payroll reduction next summer which should knock them well below the lux tax threshold and that's with them addressing most of the talent lost.
You're right, and I'm just reaching for answers at this point anyway. Losing Butler and Scola...for nothing...to the Rockets no less, goes against all rational thought. I feel like someone's reprogramming the matrix from underneath me. Trading the potential of two good future contributors for a short term $6M savings makes no logical sense. Especially when it conceivably could make the Rockets that much better.
Heck, Butler might plug nicely into the 5 spot if Yao goes out because Houston is used to playing with a center who isn't lightning quick down the floor. Scola is going to be a great compliment to Yao. I think any decent tweener forward would do fine next to Yao.
i really think its because we signed Lindsey.
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