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[monosylab1k]

he does have some sick dunks tho.....he could beat Jordan in a dunk contest, no doubt. he might be the best dunker of all time, definitely the best in-game dunker.

[SpursDynasty]

You put Lebron or Wade on the Lakers team this past 3 seasons in the WESTERN CONFERENCE...and guarantee they are a lottery team.

The East is unbelievably weak. People say Lebron took his team to the finals? He beat a Wiz team without Arenas or Butler. He beat a 3 man team with the Nets with 2 of the biggest chokers in the game: Jefferson and Carter. Then he hit his stride at the right time against a defensively weak Pistons team. Kobe goes on a tear like Lebron did in Game 5 on a regular basis. People forget that.

Western conference is very, very hard compared to the East. Kobe isn't without his faults, he still doesn't have a good grasp on when to pass the ball and when to shoot, and sometimes he gets too compe ive if there is such a thing, and maybe he doesn't neccesarily make his teammates better the way a Duncan or Nash do........but then again he has Smush Parker, Brian Cook, and Sasha Vuijic to pass to. I'm not sure even Nash could make those players better!

He's the best player in the game right now...and he's not retiring anytime soon. He still has time to win championships, score 82 points, etc. so he has time to become the greatest ever perhaps.

Exactly. Which is why the "star" LeBron got swept in the West. The West is an entirely different story than the East. The East is like playing high school ball. The West are the pros.

[LakeShow]

LOL that whole time all I could think during every highlight was "travel.....travel.....another travel......MASSIVE TRAVEL he took like 6 steps......travel.....travel"

eventually i just shut it off, couldn't take it anymore.

Stop Hatin! The boy is awesome!

[monosylab1k]

Exactly. Which is why the "star" LeBron got swept in the West. The West is an entirely different story than the East. The East is like playing high school ball. The West are the pros.

this was a decent thread with some good debating, but it's just been killed. I have no more interest posting in this thread anymore. nice debating with all you Laker Homers.

[LakeShow]

he does have some sick dunks tho.....he could beat Jordan in a dunk contest, no doubt. he might be the best dunker of all time, definitely the best in-game dunker.

[ambchang]

he does have some sick dunks tho.....he could beat Jordan in a dunk contest, no doubt. he might be the best dunker of all time, definitely the best in-game dunker.

Carter, Nique and Shawn Kemp says "Hi!"

[Obstructed_View]

he does have some sick dunks tho.....he could beat Jordan in a dunk contest, no doubt. he might be the best dunker of all time, definitely the best in-game dunker.

That's a bold in' statement, Lance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txela2VuI7A

[Reggie Miller]

Dear World:

Remember me?

Love,

Julius Erving

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they have no shot in at playing sound team ball if Kobe is there

I'm not saying hes going to improve the team. But for that dude to say that he will be the GOAT if he leads a team to victory that is SUPPOSED to dominate other teams, thats not saying much. However, I think his scoring will help the team in some ways. He is the most unstoppable offensive force in the world, and has a lot more experience than some guys, like Lebron and Wade, and knows how to score in strange defenses more than them. But if the US wins gold, I don't think it will be solely because of Kobe Bryant.

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yeah maybe so. i've also said before that Kobe is more physically gifted than Jordan.....but he'll never come close to the master Jordan was.

You either have to be a Lakers homer or have to be so young that you never saw Jordan in his prime to think that Kobe can even compare to Jordan.

Agreed.

[TheNextGen]

Mono's chin is starting to smell like Jordan's nuts.

[LakeShow]

That's a bold in' statement, Lance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txela2VuI7A

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zKf7UV15t...elated&search=

[~~Ice Man 2000~~]

"I see a lot of myself in him. No doubt about it.' - Michael Jordan

That doesn't mean he is better then him. Only that he plays alot like him which is obvious. If you say kobe is the best in the game right now alot of people will agree with you but comparing a 46% shooting first round exiting Kobe to the Goat will only result in ridicule. And I'm not even a Kobe hater.

[~~Ice Man 2000~~]

Although he will never be as good or better than Jordan, IMO, Kobe will go down as the greatest SCORER to ever play the game. Personally I think he is a little more gifted than Jordan was offensively. But hes not as good of a defender, and nowhere nearly as good of a leader and winner.

He shoots under 50% and has only averaged over 30 points twice. Doesn't MJ have like 10 scoring les in a tougher era?

[Obstructed_View]

I'm not saying hes going to improve the team. But for that dude to say that he will be the GOAT if he leads a team to victory that is SUPPOSED to dominate other teams, thats not saying much. However, I think his scoring will help the team in some ways. He is the most unstoppable offensive force in the world, and has a lot more experience than some guys, like Lebron and Wade, and knows how to score in strange defenses more than them. But if the US wins gold, I don't think it will be solely because of Kobe Bryant.

It won't be solely because Manu's watching it on TV, either, but they both carry about the same weight.

[Medvedenko]

Like I said before....read the first post in this thread...the quotes.....actuall players and coaches....not me...but then again, believe what you will, it will always make you feel better.

[Obstructed_View]

Like I said before....read the first post in this thread...the quotes.....actuall players and coaches....not me...but then again, believe what you will, it will always make you feel better.

Like I said before, look at his record without Shaq to carry him. Actual wins and losses. But then again, believe what you will; it will always make you feel better.

[TheNextGen]

Kobe's definately a better scorer...maybe even better skilled than Jordan...but Jordans 6 rings will always leave Kobe 2nd behind him unless proven otherwise.

[MONTENEGRINO]

kobe is the best scorer in the league, and among the best defenders.

We all know that...

but post-shaq, kobe hasnt done . LeBron at this point > Kobe in terms of leading and winning.

Bull . If Kobe was there instead of LBJ, Spurs might have no won the finals... At least, not even 4-2....
Kobe is the best of today, no doubt. LAL is so weak team that without KOBE they wouldn't make EUROLEAGUE phase 2, no talking about final 4...

[MONTENEGRINO]

Dear World:

Remember me?

Love,

Julius Erving

Pfffff....... Not even close to Kobe, Nique and VC in game dunks...

[Obstructed_View]

Pfffff....... Not even close to Kobe, Nique and VC in game dunks...

Tell Michael Cooper that.

[LakeShow]

That doesn't mean he is better then him. Only that he plays alot like him which is obvious. If you say kobe is the best in the game right now alot of people will agree with you but comparing a 46% shooting first round exiting Kobe to the Goat will only result in ridicule. And I'm not even a Kobe hater.

I posted that in response to the post that we shouldn't compare the two, but if Michael Jordan is making comparisons, why shouldn't the fans?

[td4mvp21]

Not Timmie, He moved into Mr.Robinson's neighborhood for 2 and had the GOAT: Robert Horry on his team for the other two.

You might want to look back at the 2003 season and then correct yourself. There was no superstar, nor consistent player for that matter, other than Duncan.

Oh, and I didn't know Horry was a superstar!

[LakeShow]

You might want to look back at the 2003 season and then correct yourself. There was no superstar, nor consistent player for that matter, other than Duncan.

Oh, and I didn't know Horry was a superstar!

I was just kidding

[LakeShow]

The Spurs don't need two superstars anyway, they have the guys in the stripes w/whistles and the man in charge (stern)on their side.