McNabb needs to shut his mouth

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Racial Bias does NOT exist in the....uh....Media. Anyone who...uh...says it does is a moron!

Our Iverson skit was...uh...motivational!

Yeah, because Allen Iverson was never arrested multiple times for possession of marijuana and firearms, so it certainly wasn't topical. It must just be because his skin is brown that they are picking on him. Bas lily white media trying to keep the black man down. They might start accusing people that illegally enter the country of being lawbreakers next. Heavens! We white people have to stop the madness now or they'll be making fun of Ted Kennedy for being a drunk or the president for being stupid.

[peewee's lovechild]

From ESPN.com:

"Reid's riot act: To understand the mind-set of an 0-2 Eagles team going into Sunday's critical matchup with the 2-0 Lions, it's important to go back to the locker room after Philadelphia's woeful performance Monday night against Washington. Several players told me they had never seen coach Andy Reid that upset. His face a bright red, his voice hoarse, Reid did not deliver a tirade but rather a warning that his squad must rededicate itself to the kind of hard work that can salvage a disastrous start.

Reid's words, I'm told, were greeted with a long pause and stunned silence. Normally, that would have been the time for middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter or Pro Bowl safety Brian Dawkins to take the floor. But Trotter is in Tampa. And Dawkins had a neck stinger. So, linebacker Takeo es stood up and took charge, even though it's only his second game with the team. "I told them to have faith," es told me. "I told them we have to bring everybody together, offense and defense, and go back to work. I've been down this road before, but to turn it around, you have to have faith." Con uous by his silence after the game -- quarterback Donovan McNabb. -- Sal Paolantonio"

That's why that little get's criticized!!!!!!!!!

And, that has nothing to do with being black!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[samikeyp]

He's kicking ass today....Philly will love him again.

[Marklar MM]

He's kicking ass today....Philly will love him again.

Thats not saying much. The Lions made Josh McCown look like a great qb.

[samikeyp]

True.

[peewee's lovechild]

He's kicking ass today....Philly will love him again.

So I guess that means that Donnie will be saying that racism is no longer an issue.

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He's kicking ass today....Philly will love him again.

The Eagles still have a losing record, but this is a good start for him.

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So I guess that means that Donnie will be saying that racism is no longer an issue.

No, because McNabb never said racism was an issue with the way he was playing. And if your re ed ass payed any attention and knew what the you were talking about, you would know that this interview took place before the pre-season even started, and that McNabb has said the same thing he said in that interview for years. There was a Beyond the Glory on FSN about him about 3 years ago, and he said basically the same exact things in it.

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TO hates black people.

[peewee's lovechild]

No, because McNabb never said racism was an issue with the way he was playing. And if your re ed ass payed any attention and knew what the you were talking about, you would know that this interview took place before the pre-season even started, and that McNabb has said the same thing he said in that interview for years. There was a Beyond the Glory on FSN about him about 3 years ago, and he said basically the same exact things in it.

What got your confederate flag tattoo in a wrinkle??

Take it easy.

Oh yea, and if it wasn't about racism . . . then what the was the big deal??

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[samikeyp]

I'll tell you who needs to shutup is the guy who suggested those Eagles uniforms.

Oy.

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What got your confederate flag tattoo in a wrinkle??

Take it easy.

Oh yea, and if it wasn't about racism . . . then what the was the big deal??

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What the are you talking about? Racism has nothing to do with the way a person plays. And he never said anything about playing worse because he feels that black QB's are judged differently than white QB's. You are ing re ed. Do you even know what the you type when you post, or what you read before you post?

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I'll tell you who needs to shutup is the guy who suggested those Eagles uniforms.

Oy.

Those are godawful. I know that they were their uniforms from back in the 40s and stuff, but still... thats just terrible. There is no need to wear those if you are going to wear throwbacks.

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TO hates black people.

[peewee's lovechild]

What the are you talking about? Racism has nothing to do with the way a person plays. And he never said anything about playing worse because he feels that black QB's are judged differently than white QB's. You are ing re ed. Do you even know what the you type when you post, or what you read before you post?

You didn't answer the question.

Was his gripe about being judged more harshly than white QBs about racism or not?

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You didn't answer the question.

Was his gripe about being judged more harshly than white QBs about racism or not?

I think the answer to that is obvious. I never debated that for one second. I just said that his interview took place far before the season even started, so to say that he is using racism as an excuse for his poor play over the first 2 games of the season makes no sense.

[samikeyp]

If the Eagles promise not to wear those uni's again, McNabb can say anything he wants!

[monosylab1k]

I think the answer to that is obvious. I never debated that for one second. I just said that his interview took place far before the season even started, so to say that he is using racism as an excuse for his poor play over the first 2 games of the season makes no sense.

don't bother arguing with that dumbass. anybody who spends every waking hour worshipping the portrayal of Anakin Skywalker probably doesn't have a clue about much of anything.

[monosylab1k]

You didn't answer the question.

Was his gripe about being judged more harshly than white QBs about racism or not?

your questions are pointless and have nothing to do with anything that's why nobody ing answers them.

[samikeyp]

don't bother arguing with that dumbass. anybody who spends every waking hour worshipping the portrayal of Anakin Skywalker probably doesn't have a clue about much of anything.

Is worshipping Leia when she was wearing that bikini in Return of the Jedi, ok?

[monosylab1k]

Is worshipping Leia when she was wearing that bikini in Return of the Jedi, ok?

haha of course it's okay. the original holy trilogy is great.

[flipcritic]

Here's an intelligent response to McNabb's comments. I for one felt the same way too.

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news...ECTATIONS.html

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Dana Pennett O'Neil | McNabb and the Grating Expectations

By DANA PENNETT O'NEIL

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WHEN I FIRST started in this business, my father used to love it when I covered televised college basketball games.

He could always spot me on press row.

I was the one with long hair.

Seventeen years later, I'm one of a handful of people with long hair; two in this city's print press, to be exact, alongside Ashley Fox, of the Inquirer.

Women in sports writing stand out. I hate it but there's no getting around it. I have been called out in locker rooms - one college player once yelled, "Lady coming," as if I was an incoming grenade - and endured nothing shy of a ritual hazing from a baseball player who shall remain nameless at my first major league baseball game. And my personal favorite, a controversial college hoops coach once began an interview with me by saying, "You're too purdy to be a sportswriter. You need a new profession."

So as Donovan McNabb tried yesterday to explain his comments on HBO's "Real Sports," I understood what he was trying to say when he said as an African-American quarterback, he has to "do a little extra." I'll admit I cringed a little as I listened to the comments, wishing he could have left the genie in the bottle, but I got it.

Peyton Manning was criticized for never winning the big one before last year; Rex Grossman was criticized because . . . because he deserved it. But neither of them will ever tote the burden of being a white quarterback just as men in my profession will never be referred to as male sports writers. Black and female are different and therefore necessitate the adjective.

Years ago, another female sports writer told me to make sure I did my homework because every time I goofed, people would line up to refer to me as some dumb chick who doesn't know the difference between a cover 2 and a bedcover.

McNabb told me in a telephone interview last night he got the same sort of advice.

"That's definitely how I was prepared," McNabb said as we exchanged war stories. "People told me when I came into this league to do the extra studying, to work out harder, prepare myself better. It's not so much, 'Yes sir, no sir,' but don't give anyone a reason to say that you're uncoachable, that you can't be trusted, that you want to do your own thing. The margin for error is different."

The scrutiny is not necessarily overt. It doesn't mean some bigot is calling McNabb names any more than it means that some misogynist is offending me. I, frankly, am blessed to work with world-class people, men who couldn't care less what kind of chromosomes I have. They treat me like one of the boys and to me, that is the highest compliment.

But I still get my share of e-mails from Neanderthals (and you know who you are) who say I should be home making babies and pot roast ("You're kidding?" McNabb said, when I told him. Ah no, I'm not).

McNabb told me he still hears people commenting when he's out in public about what he can and can't do because of his race; that he reads scouting reports and shakes his head at the buzzwords that often accompany the description of African-American quarterbacks.

"He's athletic, that's another one," McNabb explained. "Or he has a tendency to run out of the pocket when his first read isn't open. You can't just be a quarterback. It's always, 'Well, he's a runner,' or 'he's athletic.' No one ever just wants to put us in that quarterback class. I brought up Vince Young [during his press conference] as an example to try and paint the picture it should be about winning and losing. If you win, you're a winner. Do you have to go into the question of whether or not he's an accurate passer? He's a winner. He does what it takes to win."

As heavy as the scrutiny is, the responsibility is even more burdensome.

When Michael Vick nose-dives into sports infamy, dredging up all sorts of racial and cultural stereotypes with him, people don't automatically look askance at McNabb. But it certainly doesn't help his cause any more than "Monday Night Football's" decision to hire Lisa Guerrero helped mine.

McNabb is painfully conscious of the images out there, not just of African-American athletes, but of all athletes. He realizes that the transgressions of the few - Vick, Pacman Jones, Barry Bonds - lumps everyone into an unfair pile.

"I try to handle myself with class and dignity so all of the other quarterbacks realize that despite the scrutiny, I've been able to do that," McNabb said. "That's the way I want to be portrayed. But I'm definitely reaching out to African Americans."

Religion, race and politics, aren't they the three taboos to avoid at a tail party? McNabb knows that part of why this is creating such an uproar is that it's not a comfortable subject.

That's where he and I differ. I like to think people may forget I'm a woman and just say I'm a sports writer. Some may call that naive. I prefer optimistic.

McNabb thinks differently. He believes that by being out in the open, by being honest with his experiences, he can make people think. He said he hopes other people will speak up - "I definitely expect other quarterbacks to comment this week," he said. At the very least, he likes to think people will dig beneath the surface, beneath the sensationalistic version of what they think he's said to listen to what he really said.

"You bring it up, people shut up," McNabb said. "When people hear stuff like this, they wonder, 'Are you talking about me?' They go from being offensive to being defensive. If you didn't say it, then I'm not talking to you."

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"You bring it up, people shut up," McNabb said. "When people hear stuff like this, they wonder, 'Are you talking about me?' They go from being offensive to being defensive. If you didn't say it, then I'm not talking to you."

The thing is, you have to be a ing man and take on the specific people that say about you. When you bring it up without mentioning people specifically, everyone else just thinks you are a race-baiting, whining little girl. That doesn't work too well when you are supposed to be the leader of a football team in the meanest city in the US.

[peewee's lovechild]

don't bother arguing with that dumbass. anybody who spends every waking hour worshipping the portrayal of Anakin Skywalker probably doesn't have a clue about much of anything.

I can see how comparing movies to sports makes so much sense.

I tremble at the superiority of your intellect.

[peewee's lovechild]

your questions are pointless and have nothing to do with anything that's why nobody ing answers them.

You fear answering the questions?