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    I have heard the same about EVH.
    Yea, I think he plucks and taps at the same time or something like that.

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    Go see Ted Nugent live...


    When you leave, you won't be wondering if he's talented...you'll be wondering if he's the best guitarist you've ever seen...

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    If you put Jimmy Page and Ted Nugent right next to each other live...

    Jimmy Page would look like he's picking up a guitar for the first time, compared to Ted.

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    Go see Ted Nugent live...


    When you leave, you won't be wondering if he's talented...you'll be wondering if he's the best guitarist you've ever seen...
    No I wont.

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    If you put Jimmy Page and Ted Nugent right next to each other live...

    Jimmy Page would look like he's picking up a guitar for the first time, compared to Ted.
    That's just ridiculous.

    Nugent would pay to wash Page's underware.

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    Which is the main reason you don't think he belongs on this list...

    He belongs...

    He's easily at the same tier as Clapton and Hendrix....


    And as a live performer he blows just about everyone on this list away...that's I've seen anyway, and I've seen most of the well known guys....


    I'm not talking about that Damn Yankees crap either...

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    That's just ridiculous.

    Nugent would pay to wash Page's underware.

    Spoken like someone who's

    A. Never seen Ted Nugent live

    and

    B. Never seen Jimmy Page live


    No comparison....

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    Speaking of which...

    I always forget Buck Dharma too...

    I guess I can understand why he never makes any of these lists.

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    Spoken like someone who's

    A. Never seen Ted Nugent live

    and

    B. Never seen Jimmy Page live


    No comparison....
    but he listens to led zeppelin 4 every day, man.

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    Spoken like someone who's

    A. Never seen Ted Nugent live

    and

    B. Never seen Jimmy Page live


    No comparison....
    I've never seen them live.
    But, I can just compare albums.

    Jimmy Page was probably high or drunk most of the time while playing live anyway.

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    Jimmy Page was probably high or drunk most of the time while playing live anyway.

    Like all good rockstars should be!

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    I've never seen them live.
    But, I can just compare albums.
    Actually...you just can't.



    Page is inarguably the greatest sound engineer to ever pick up a guitar...

    But he used his recording equipment to great effect...about 60% of his innovation was because of his engineering genius....

    It's also why...he's never sounded half as good live as he does in a studio...


    That's as much a tribute to his engineering prowess as it is his actual playing...


    Now I never saw him in his prime with Zeppelin...I've only seem him post Zep/heroin...

    But I have seen the Song Remains the Same, and it's pretty similar to his post Zep stuff...

    And to be frank...he kinda sucks live...sloppy as , just doesn't grab you the same way.

    He does ok as long as he stick to blues type stuff...when he tries to get heaiver or faster...it just doesn't happen for him that well.




    Jimmy Page was probably high or drunk most of the time while playing live anyway.

    Doesn't matter...you can't recreate the Zep sound live because it was so heavily engineered...


    Ted Nugent wouldn't know sound engineering if you shoved it up his ass...he just knows how to play.

    Live is the true test of a guitar player...

    And Nugent is matched by only a few when it comes to live performance...


    He doesn't have that many fans because...well pretty much because he's an asshole, and he's not particularly well liked by others in the industry and never really has been...even less so these days.

    But that doesn't change the fact that dude can just pick up a guitar and play with few peers.



    Page is a great composer, studio guitarist, sound engineer, producer, innovator, can play a ton of different styles...but just picking it up and playing?

    He's not near as good as most people think IMO.

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    I'd rather be Prince than Jimmy Page. There--I said it.

    Jimmy Page's repertoire of instruments: 3

    Prince's repertoire of instruments: 43
    forty ing three.

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    I'd rather be Prince than Jimmy Page. There--I said it.

    Jimmy Page's repertoire of instruments: 3

    Prince's repertoire of instruments: 43
    forty ing three.
    appolonia.

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    Actually...you just can't.



    Page is inarguably the greatest sound engineer to ever pick up a guitar...

    But he used his recording equipment to great effect...about 60% of his innovation was because of his engineering genius....

    It's also why...he's never sounded half as good live as he does in a studio...


    That's as much a tribute to his engineering prowess as it is his actual playing...


    Now I never saw him in his prime with Zeppelin...I've only seem him post Zep/heroin...

    But I have seen the Song Remains the Same, and it's pretty similar to his post Zep stuff...

    And to be frank...he kinda sucks live...sloppy as , just doesn't grab you the same way.

    He does ok as long as he stick to blues type stuff...when he tries to get heaiver or faster...it just doesn't happen for him that well.







    Doesn't matter...you can't recreate the Zep sound live because it was so heavily engineered...


    Ted Nugent wouldn't know sound engineering if you shoved it up his ass...he just knows how to play.

    Live is the true test of a guitar player...

    And Nugent is matched by only a few when it comes to live performance...


    He doesn't have that many fans because...well pretty much because he's an asshole, and he's not particularly well liked by others in the industry and never really has been...even less so these days.

    But that doesn't change the fact that dude can just pick up a guitar and play with few peers.



    Page is a great composer, studio guitarist, sound engineer, producer, innovator, can play a ton of different styles...but just picking it up and playing?

    He's not near as good as most people think IMO.

    Jimmy Hendrix manipulated the guitar sound with objects and distortions, and yet everyone has him as the greatest guitarist ever.

    On "Purple Haze", he rubbed his guitar on a microphone to get the sound on the bridge of that song.

    What's the difference between him and Page?

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    Jimmy Hendrix manipulated the guitar sound with objects and distortions, and yet everyone has him as the greatest guitarist ever.

    On "Purple Haze", he rubbed his guitar on a microphone to get the sound on the bridge of that song.

    What's the difference between him and Page?

    Jimi Hendrix could pick up a guitar and get sounds out of it other guitarists would need 50 pieces of equipment and a state of the art recording studio to get....

    No ing contest. Hendrix was the all time greatest at that...that's why he's considered the greatest guitarist ever.



    When I say engineering I am talking about overdubbing, mic spacing, reversed recorded pedal effects...a lot of his sounds came from altering recordings of his sessions...with mixing equipment, and equipment specifically created to produce a certain sound...had nothing to do with his actual guitar playing...and yes, he was incredibly good at that. He was a great guitarist...even without the stuff...


    But while Page was in there remixing and enhancing pre-recorded tracks...

    Hendrix would walk about there on stage and do the same thing, live, with his ing teeth.

    Surely you get the difference?

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    Jimi Hendrix could pick up a guitar and get sounds out of it other guitarists would need 50 pieces of equipment and a state of the art recording studio to get....

    No ing contest. Hendrix was the all time greatest at that...that's why he's considered the greatest guitarist ever.



    When I say engineering I am talking about overdubbing, mic spacing, reversed recorded pedal effects...a lot of his sounds came from altering recordings of his sessions...with mixing equipment...had nothing to do with his guitar playing...and yes, he was incredibly good at that.


    So while Page was in there remixing and enhancing pre-recorded tracks...

    Hendrix would walk about there on stage and do the same thing, live, with his ing teeth.

    Surely you get the difference?
    But, they are both enhancing the sound of the guitar, regardless of the methods employed. Niether is doing pure guitar work like, let's say, B.B. King.

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    False...Hendrix was more pure. He was the purest guitarist ever...

    And no...BB King couldn't do what Jimi could do either...and he's probably said that in an interview at some point.


    When you gave Jimi that same eqiupment? It was a whole different world...


    It was like giving Barry Bonds steroids....

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    False...Hendrix was more pure. He was the purest guitarist ever...

    And no...BB King couldn't do what Jimi could do either...and he's probably said that in an interview at some point.


    When you gave Jimi that same eqiupment? It was a whole different world...


    It was like giving Barry Bonds steroids....
    But, that would mean he was good with enhancements.

    We're talking about "pure" guitar work.

    And, since you've never seen Jimi live (one of your criteria) then he should be left out of the conversation.

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    But, that would mean he was good with enhancements.
    Uh no..teeth aren't enhancements.

    And he did with his fingers others couldn't do with equipment. He could wah wah with no pedal...



    We're talking about "pure" guitar work.

    And, since you've never seen Jimi live (one of your criteria) then he should be left out of the conversation.

    Haven't seen Jimi live? His live performances are some of the most legendary performances by a guitarist ever....where have you been?




    Look...I'm not going to ing argue the guitar playing talent of Hendrix with you...you either on crack, or else you're ing trolling...

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    Look...I'm not going to ing argue the guitar playing talent of Hendrix with you...you either on crack, or else you're ing trolling...
    Neither.

    It's just that you told me that if I have never seen Page and Nugent live, then I don't know what I'm talking about. All I said is that you've never seen Hendrix live, yet you speak of him with such conviciton.

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    Neither.

    It's just that you told me that if I have never seen Page and Nugent live, then I don't know what I'm talking about. All I said is that you've never seen Hendrix live, yet you speak of him with such conviciton.

    I have seen him live...albeit, recordings.


    Besides...go ahead and listen to his studio stuff and compare...by all means.

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    I have seen him live...albeit, recordings.


    Besides...go ahead and listen to his studio stuff and compare...by all means.
    And, like I said, I've compared Page and Nugent via their recordings . . . and I think Page is the better guitarist.

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    And, like I said, I've compared Page and Nugent via their recordings . . . and I think Page is the better guitarist.

    Just be sure to compare their live stuff...

    Nugent's the better guitarist.

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