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    If Romney was Methodist he'd have the nomination almost locked up by now.
    Yeah, for what is is worth he does kick the rest of the repubican field's asses as far as I'm concerned. Except McCain.

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    "their subsistence costs by 23%."

    One way to make a national value added tax less regressive is to give the low income people much higher deductions. paying less income tax.
    It is not a VAT!

    Will you guys please stop repeating propaganda.

    Please read up on the "Fair Tax" before pretending to know anything about it. You guys just look like asses in doing that.

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    o friends, I am a British citizen and recently have got a job in Australia. I would like to read up on some of Australians taxation laws and in particular would like to know when a new taxation law is passed. Do you know where I could find this information? Are there any internet resources? Any helpful guidance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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    Perhaps. I think age will prove to be the least undesirable characteristic.

    Of course, Huckabee could tickle the fancy of the evangelicals.
    Hopefully Republican voters realize that a far-right Evangelical Christian has almost no shot of winning a general election.

    Ditto for a war-mongering psycho like Guliani.

    Mitt seems to be a classic Republican candidate, but I don't know if he has enough "spectacle" to give the Democratic candidate serious run in the general election. Though I suppose the Republicans could do worse (read above).

    I think the guy that would give the most fits to the Democratic candidate in the general election would be McCain. I know he's "the old guy", but he seems to resonate with moderate voters on several issues while maintaining his conservative base.

    Of particular interest are his stances on stem cell research, waterboarding as a torture technique, drilling in ANWAR, and civil unions for sexuals (wouldn't oppose state decision).

    Yep, this guy could be a real threat to the democratic party in a general election. As a moderate, I'd cast my vote for him....

    Oh and on the "old" thing....

    While he is 71, it's also important to remember the physical abuse he sustained while imprisoned at the Hanoi HIlton for almost 6 years and the bout with Cancer some time ago.

    If I were him I'd say "try going through all that and see how old you look!"...not that he would.

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    I've always like McCain in all honesty I hope he wins the nomination. A McCain/Giuliani ticket would be one tough ticket to beat.

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    I've always like McCain in all honesty I hope he wins the nomination. A McCain/Giuliani ticket would be one tough ticket to beat.
    I'm not sure how much Giuliani helps a ticket....

    On the one hand he has a socially moderate-to-liberal stance that would be good to capture undecided moderate voters in the swing states....

    But on the other hand, I wonder if his hardline stance on Iran, Gitmo (torture techniques), and surrendering civil liberties for the sake of national defense would cancel out any goodwill he establishes with moderate voters. Consequently, McCain is staunchly against such treatments and despite his military background is not necessarily a "war hawk", which is exactly how I'd classify Giuliani.

    Bottom Line: I think he would get destroyed in this issue in the general election, whether he was the presidential or vice presidential candidate.

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    I'm not sure how much Giuliani helps a ticket....

    On the one hand he has a socially moderate-to-liberal stance that would be good to capture undecided moderate voters in the swing states....

    But on the other hand, I wonder if his hardline stance on Iran, Gitmo (torture techniques), and surrendering civil liberties for the sake of national defense would cancel out any goodwill he establishes with moderate voters. Consequently, McCain is staunchly against such treatments and despite his military background is not necessarily a "war hawk", which is exactly how I'd classify Giuliani.

    Bottom Line: I think he would get destroyed in this issue in the general election, whether he was the presidential or vice presidential candidate.
    Republicans, IMO, will look past Rudy's moderate-to-liberal stance on some issues to get the "tough leader" they like. I know many republicans who know Bush is far from perfect but they like his cowboy way of sticking to his guns even when he's wrong. I don't think Rudy is that way but that is what they look for in a candidate which really dooms Huckabee and Romney and I look for a McCain and Giuliani battle down the stretch. But I could be wrong.

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    Hillary v McCain & Giuliani

    The 1990s versus Vietnam and 9/11.

    Can't wait.

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    Republicans, IMO, will look past Rudy's moderate-to-liberal stance on some issues to get the "tough leader" they like. I know many republicans who know Bush is far from perfect but they like his cowboy way of sticking to his guns even when he's wrong. I don't think Rudy is that way but that is what they look for in a candidate which really dooms Huckabee and Romney and I look for a McCain and Giuliani battle down the stretch. But I could be wrong.
    General elections are less about getting the dyed-in-the-wool Republicans and more for capturing those undecided moderates, or swing voters. He earns points with those swing voters on many social issues, but I fear his staunch fpolicy on combating terrorism both here and abroad might dissuade some voters that are encouraged by his more liberal domestic agenda.

    That is why I hope McCain gets the nomination over Giuliani. McCain, like Giuliani, is popular with the swing voters with his more moderate social views, but I would argue he is less controversial on the issues where he is decidedly conservative.

    Plus...he's not a yankee

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    Hillary v McCain & Giuliani

    The 1990s versus Vietnam and 9/11.

    Can't wait.
    Personally, I think if McCain got the nomination he'd go for someone a bit off the map.

    In fact, it's hard for me to see any of the Republicans picking from the current presidential nominee field for a vice presidential running mate because they have such different political views than one-another. I don't think any of them are too much alike.

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    How is it that out of a nation of 300 million-odd souls we end up with this from which we will select our next leader?

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    You are free to run for President as anyone else who meets the qualifications.

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    How is it that out of a nation of 300 million-odd souls we end up with this from which we will select our next leader?
    Money and political experience tend to be two discriminating factors that discount a good 299,999,980 souls....

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    Surely there is someone else.

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    Surely there is someone else.
    You can always write in your choice. For all the complaints I believe the system has served this country, for better or worse, quite well.

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    Huckster is clueless...

    Forced to respond to the tragic assassination of former Pakistan Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee has spent the last 24 hours constantly fumbling and apologizing for his cluelessness and incompetence on a key foreign policy issue.

    This morning on MSNBC, Huckabee said that Musharraf was unable to control Pakistan’s “eastern borders” with Afghanistan:

    People who questioned my view of foreign policy probably need go back and read the speech that i delivered back in Washington in September. … We have seen what happens in the Musharraf government. He has told us he does not have enough control of those eastern borders near Afghanistan to be able go after the terrorists. But on the other hand, did he not want us going in so what do we do?

    (end clip)

    Do I smell toast? Naw, Huckleberry is such a nice guy! That's what got W elected, don't ya know. (sarcasm off)
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    Surely there is someone else.
    Some of these guys aren't half bad.

    Ask yourself this....

    If you had to go Bush v. the Field, wouldn't you take the field?

    If so, then at least it's considered an upgrade. At least it's considered progress.

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    He's doing okay but this did hurt him a bit I think.

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    Huckster is clueless...



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    Thank you for your continued support of "Huckabee: Crazy Ideological Christian, Bad Presidential Candidate...or both"

    Keep up the good work.

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    He's doing okay but this did hurt him a bit I think.
    It should scare the crap out of people. When Bush didn't know anything about foreign policy or was an "unknown" in this category during the 2000 race it wasn't as big of a deal.

    Now, it's a HUGE deal.

    I know the Iraq War and foreign policy in general has taken a back seat to domestic issues like Health Care in recent months, but it will eventually come back full circle.

    We NEED a president with a known foreign policy that is versed in world affairs. It is an absolute MUST.

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    It should scare the crap out of people. When Bush didn't know anything about foreign policy or was an "unknown" in this category during the 2000 race it wasn't as big of a deal.

    Now, it's a HUGE deal.

    I know the Iraq War and foreign policy in general has taken a back seat to domestic issues like Health Care in recent months, but it will eventually come back full circle.

    We NEED a president with a known foreign policy that is versed in world affairs. It is an absolute MUST.
    Even a president with a known foreign policy doesn't make him or her ready for the job. Cheney is proof of that. Reagan had virtually no experience in foreign policy and did quite well.

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    Even a president with a known foreign policy doesn't make him or her ready for the job. Cheney is proof of that. Reagan had virtually no experience in foreign policy and did quite well.
    Cheney's "warhawking" was well do ented. Not that we could have predicted he would use his overwhelming influence against an impressionable leader to assert his agenda or that it would escalate to a full-scale war....

    But we knew what Cheney was about.

    And I realize that Reagan had no record or experience with foreign policy, but I personally would like to at least somewhat know where my candidate stands on current issues and general stance on foreign policy discussion.

    I think it gives a better indication of how a person would react and leave less to chance.

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    Thank you for your continued support of "Huckabee: Crazy Ideological Christian, Bad Presidential Candidate...or both"

    Keep up the good work.
    Huckabee has less foreign policy a en than some 4-year-olds.

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    Here ya go, Huckabee folks. What this guy wont do for support...

    Wayne DuMond, who made News of the Weird in 1988, was briefly notable in December 2007 as part of the Republican presidential race. DuMond was an Arkansas rape suspect in 1984 (later convicted) when he said that vigilantes castrated him, and the evidence of that wound up in a jar on the desk of the sheriff of St. Francis County (a prop the sheriff used in law-enforcement speeches). DuMond sued the sheriff, from prison, for intentional infliction of emotional distress and in 1988 won $110,000. His name recently resurfaced because a subsequent Arkansas governor, Mike Huckabee, allegedly persuaded the parole board to release DuMond, supposedly under pressure from evangelical Christians skeptical of his guilt. However, after being paroled, DuMond killed a Missouri woman, was convicted again, and died in prison in 2005. [New York Times, 12-9-07]
    http://www.newsoftheweird.com/archive/nw080113.html

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