Important: The Official Beno Thread

[ShoogarBear]

James White!

[Kori Ellis]

LJ 3!

[Obstructed_View]

Now Beno's a high draft pick!

I'd consider a first round pick a high draft pick, whether or not he's the highest draft pick the Spurs had since Duncan and Parker.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Devin Brown!

[ploto]

Yeah, it's not like Tony accomplished anything to eventually prove his worth to the franchise.

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

[E20]

Devin Brown!

Ughhhh....He was good.

[ShoogarBear]

Andres Nocioni!




No, wait, that one does hurt.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Ughhhh....He was good.

My point was is that he was a player that did things that didn't work with the system and was let go. He's also played well since he left.

, I love Devin Brown and wish he were a Spur, but alas...

[ploto]

Ron Mercer averaged 20 ppg elsewhere.

He came to the Spurs, some Spurs fans rode his jock.

He got cut midseason and the Spurs ate his $7M (?) salary.

Some people don't make it as a Spur. There's reasons for that. It doesn't mean they aren't going to do well elsewhere. But it doesn't make the Spurs stupid for getting rid of them.

Yeh, but the Spurs should have never picked up Beno's option. They made that decision two years into it.

[ShoogarBear]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

I must have missed the part about Tony getting out of shape and not working on his game.

[RC's Boss]

Obstructed View has the most appropriate moniker out of anyone in this thread. How anyone can defend Beno at this point is beyond me. If Beno had his way he would still be sitting out with the same injury that sidelined him much of this year with the Spurs.

I honestly cannot believe there is an actual "debate" on the subject of Beno.

Lots of players have scored a lot of points for bad teams. Lots.

Yeah it is a bit re ed. At least Scola never played here, but damn... Beno is like off- brand cereal. A generic PG on a now generic team. He probably circled this date on his calendar... "Memo to self... 11-26, make sure you don't stomp your toe so you will be able to play against the Spurs and prove that "mean ole Pop" wrong."

[Buddy Holly]

NBA fans are like moths, they're attracted to whatever light is near them. When a player does well for one game, that light is brighter than the sun and those moths converge on it like bears to honey.

[Kori Ellis]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

And he also apologized to the Spurs, admitted that it was wrong to go to the press and learned his lesson.

It doesn't justify Beno going to the press, over and over and over and over and over, while caring more about the nightclub than the practice facility.

I understand you love him. I understand that you think the Spurs organization has wronged him in some manner. But really, the Parker/Kidd thing is irrelevant.

[Obstructed_View]

Obstructed View has the most appropriate moniker out of anyone in this thread. How anyone can defend Beno at this point is beyond me. If Beno had his way he would still be sitting out with the same injury that sidelined him much of this year with the Spurs.

I honestly cannot believe there is an actual "debate" on the subject of Beno.

Lots of players have scored a lot of points for bad teams. Lots.

Sorry. I don't feel like playing imaginary "ifs and buts". If you can't back up your position with facts, don't try to use fantasy. If Beno wanted to be sitting out with a broken finger he'd be doing it in Sacramento, anyway.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

How does it not matter what happened later? Tony proved he could do what he does with his chances. Did Beno?

You can talk if you can back it up. I guess now we can all forgive Beno because he dropped the hammer on the Spurs.

[BeerIsGood!]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

... and Beno handled about 300 things poorly during his time with the Spurs.

[Kori Ellis]

Andres Nocioni!




No, wait, that one does hurt.

I forgot .. who got fired for the messed up birthdate?

[Obstructed_View]

Yeh, but the Spurs should have never picked up Beno's option. They made that decision two years into it.

I'll never understand that decision. Ever. Regardless of what any of us think of Beno, that decision cannot be justified.

[ploto]

And he also apologized to the Spurs, admitted that it was wrong to go to the press and learned his lesson.

It doesn't justify Beno going to the press, over and over and over and over and over, while caring more about the nightclub than the practice facility.

I understand you love him. I understand that you think the Spurs organization has wronged him in some manner. But really, the Parker/Kidd thing is irrelevant.

What is relevant is the double standard of the fans. They harp on one player for something but not others who do exactly the same thing. People who hated Kidd applauded what Tony did when he griped publicly, and that is my problem.

[ShoogarBear]

If Beno wanted to be sitting out with a broken finger he'd be doing it in Sacramento, anyway.

He tried to.

Theus made him start playing about 2-3 games before Beno thought he'd be ready.

[Obstructed_View]

How does it not matter what happened later? Tony proved he could do what he does with his chances. Did Beno?

So far as I can tell this is the first one he's gotten. Looks like he's doing okay.

[Kori Ellis]

What is relevant is the double standard of the fans. They harp on one player for something but not others who do exactly the same thing. People who hated Kidd applauded what Tony did when he griped publicly, and that is my problem.

No, your problem is that you are a Beno fan and not a fan of the Spurs organization.

[ShoogarBear]

I forgot .. who got fired for the messed up birthdate?

Was that Lance Blanks?

[whottt]

By the way...the game Darius Washington played tonight in only about his fifth minute of the season...would rank as Beno's 3rd best game as a Spur.

[Que Gee]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

Come on, people don't remember that.


Tony was the MVP of the Finals. He had always been the man.