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  1. #151
    Cinnamon Girl mrsmaalox's Avatar
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    Interesting, you guys have been debating this all day! I just wanted to tell you about a site I like to visit occasionally called BitterWaitress.com; sorry I don't know how to link. They have an excellent " ty Tipper Database" and is quite entertaining!

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    holy someone trhow some more coal in the furnace.. this thread has officially RUN OUT OF STEAM!!
    Okay, I'm game.

    For the record, I agree with leaving bigger tips if I'm taking up time.

    However, is the converse true? If I go into a restaurant, have a quick beer, and am out of there in 15 minutes, is it okay to leave a smaller tip because I'm helping them turn over faster?

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    Forum Official Personal Life Coach BacktoBasics's Avatar
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    Okay, I'm game.

    For the record, I agree with leaving bigger tips if I'm taking up time.

    However, is the converse true? If I go into a restaurant, have a quick beer, and am out of there in 15 minutes, is it okay to leave a smaller tip because I'm helping them turn over faster?
    For just one beer maybe a buck.

  4. #154
    Nostradamas Jr.
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    I have a solution. Everyone come to my house and watch the game, I have DirecTv. You can tip me if you wish.


  5. #155
    Nostradamas Jr.
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    Okay, I'm game.

    For the record, I agree with leaving bigger tips if I'm taking up time.

    However, is the converse true? If I go into a restaurant, have a quick beer, and am out of there in 15 minutes, is it okay to leave a smaller tip because I'm helping them turn over faster?
    Why are you sitting at a table having one beer? Go to the bar, you little pussy.

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    how about this.............. i base my tip on the cost of what I'm eating and drinking. if they charge me 6 dollars for a beer where i could get the same beer for 3 dollars somewhere else, i will cut the tip in half to compensate for how much more I'm having to spend

  7. #157
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    Why is he a ?

    Because he lives in a country where waiters are treated equally to other professions and have decent wages?

    I've asked the question before, but never got an answer. Why are waiters in the US second grade citizens? Why is their profession the only one who's salary is dependent on the good will of their customers?

    And if this is such a good system why aren't other people in the service industry paid the same way (minimal salary + tips)?

    Because, restaurants have such a small profit margin, they can not afford to pay the wait staff enough money to make it worth their while doing that job.I waited table for 10 yrs and it is hard work, if you do ity right, and I would not have done that job if I did not make tips, not even for 2x min wage....no way.

    Also you will not get near as good service if the wait person did not profit from giving great service.

    there are 2 reasons, ok?

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    Just don't go to a restaurant to watch a football game. Go to a sports bar. Problem solved.

    If you're going to Chili's to watch Cowboys/Packers for 3 hours, not only should you be required to tip x3, you should be fined an additional amount for being a moron.

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    For just one beer maybe a buck.
    One buck? For a five dollar beer? That's 20%!

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    Why are you sitting at a table having one beer? Go to the bar, you little pussy.
    I need the table for the homemade PB&Js I brought in with me.

  11. #161
    Nostradamas Jr.
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    I need the table for the homemade PB&Js I brought in with me.
    Well, you left out that important tidbit of info....my bad.



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    Because, restaurants have such a small profit margin, they can not afford to pay the wait staff enough money to make it worth their while doing that job.I waited table for 10 yrs and it is hard work, if you do ity right, and I would not have done that job if I did not make tips, not even for 2x min wage....no way.

    Also you will not get near as good service if the wait person did not profit from giving great service.

    there are 2 reasons, ok?
    Nope

    You're a dentist right?

    Why don't you charge your patient for the material costs of the procedure and a certain percentage for the costs of your practice, while your salary should be paid by tips (voluntary donations after you're done, based solely on their opinion of how well you did).

    It worked so well for you as a waiter, it should work even better now.

    Or do you have a problem with a layman judging your work?

    My point is not about the amount of the money they make, but how they are making it.

    Tips are not stimulation since I can arbitrarily decide how much I'll give, if at all. Commissions are.

    And for the record I never talked about minimum wages, I talked about a fair and decent salary for the work they do.

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    Being a former waiter, I can appreciate B2B's concern, but I just can't imagine there's many restaurants the people are going to flock to to watch a football game that aren't already used to this sort of thing any time there's a big game on. It would be one thing if The Olive Garden suddenly got packed with football fans intending to stay for 3 hours, but restaurants like Olive Garden don't have TVs.

    The restaurants that do have TVs near all of the tables WANT to attract the stay-and-drink sports fan, so they probably have it set up where there's a smaller waitstaff serving more customers rather than your typical one-waiter-for-four tables set up.

    At least that's how I'd do it.

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    you have all just been spurminated

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    I need the table for the homemade PB&Js I brought in with me.
    I usually go one step further and bring my own beer in with me.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    This thread is awesome.

    I tip what I feel is necessary, anywhere from 10 to 50%. Never has time been a consideration and I doubt it ever will be. It's all based on service or, in most cases, the lack thereof.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    And if you have anyone ever take care of you, like taking a $150 tab and turning it into a $75 one, the tip should, at least, be the difference in bills.

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    @ slomo's links

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    Last place I ate, I tipped 50%. Nice to know that makes me an asshole.
    No, that tip makes you generous, it's your Euro trash ed up personality that makes you an asshole.

  20. #170
    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Ouch.


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    No, that tip makes you generous, it's your Euro trash ed up personality that makes you an asshole.
    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaamn

  22. #172
    Nostradamas Jr.
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    Nope

    You're a dentist right?

    Or do you have a problem with a layman judging your work?


    And for the record I never talked about minimum wages, I talked about a fair and decent salary for the work they do.
    Read my first point.

    Restaurants can not afford to pay wait staff a fair and reasonable salary...restaurants do not make enough profit to do so. The system is perfect now. Sure you get stiffed by assholes now and then, but by and large, wait staff make a nice living. Restaurants save money with the wages they save in this system, thus they keep costs lower and stay in business longer.

    I am judged by the lay person every day. If patients are not happy with my service, they do not come back...simple as that.

  23. #173
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    You guys should have worked in a mob restaurant. The tips are great, and nobody cares about profit margin.

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    No, that tip makes you generous, it's your Euro trash ed up personality that makes you an asshole.
    My Euro trash personality? When did San Antonio move to Europe?

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    I am judged by the lay person every day. If patients are not happy with my service, they do not come back...simple as that.
    But they are still expected to pay you.

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