Alright, I'm done. Even if that blog isn't truly written by that sick , she's still a sick .
"It wasn't just a friendship going sour. Megan was systematically harassing and manipulating my daughter! Separating them was not enough. What would you have done? You can't go to the police, the other parents won't listen, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE??
I did the only thing I could do. Unfortunately, Megan chose to make this a tragedy for everyone involved by killing herself."
Oh my goodness. Are you ing kidding me?
Alright, I'm done. Even if that blog isn't truly written by that sick , she's still a sick .
Neither can a bartender but they, if I'm not mistaken, can be held liable if a person they served kills someone in a DUI accident, or am I wrong?
Just because one cannot predict the future results of one's actions doesn't get them off scott free.
If that makes sense. I know I'd feel guilty as sin if I were her.
I couldn't resist, I had to leave at least one comment.
What did you write?
This:
I was just talking with my brother-in-law the other day about how there aren't any school ground fights anymore. Kids don't know how to stick up for themselves without having their parents step in. And some kids need to get their ass beat once in a while. It just doesn't happen anymore.
Kids these days are coddled too much and are giving many things that we had to work at and figure out on our own. I understand it happens with each generation, but not everyone is a winner or a good kid. Some kids aren't smart, athletic, social, etc. and the quicker they realize this, the better off they will be in the long run.
Lori Drew is still a dumb .
Karma is coming...
Family Shunned Over MySpace Hoax, Teen's Suicide
Friday, December 07, 2007
DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Mo. — Waterford Crystal Drive is one of those suburban streets that seem so new as to have no history at all. But the suicide of a teenage girl — and allegations she had been tormented by a neighbor over the Internet — have brought a reaction that is old, almost tribal, in its nature.
Residents on the middle-class subdivision have turned against the neighbor, Lori Drew, and her family, demanding the Drews move out. In interviews, they have warned darkly that someone might be tempted to "take matters into their own hands."
"It's like they used to do in the 1700s and 1800s. If you wronged a community, you were basically shunned. That's basically what happened to her," said Trevor Buckles, a 40-year-old who lives next door to the Drews.
Drew became an outcast after she admitted inventing "Josh Evans," a good-looking teenage boy who chatted online with 13-year-old Megan Meier. Megan received cruel messages from Josh that apparently drove her to hang herself in her closet in 2006.
Through her lawyer, Drew, a mother of two in her 40s, has denied saying hurtful things to the girl over the Internet, and prosecutors have said they found no grounds for charges against the woman. Neverthess, the community reaction has been vengeful and the pressure on the Drews intense.
Hundreds of residents gathered in front of their home on a recent evening, holding candles and reciting stories about Megan.
Last December, after neighbors learned of the Internet hoax, someone threw a brick through a window in the Drew home. A few weeks ago, someone made a prank call to police reporting that there had been a shooting inside the Drew's house, prompting squad cars to arrive with sirens flashing.
Someone recently obtained the password to change the Drew's outgoing cell phone recording, and replaced it with a disturbing message. Police would not detail the content.
Clients have fled from Drew's home-based advertising business, so she had to close it. Neighbors have not seen Drew outside her home in weeks.
Death threats and ugly insults have been hurled at Drew over the Internet, where she has been portrayed as monster who should go to prison, lose custody of her own children, or worse. Her name and address have been posted online, and a Web site with satellite images of the home said the Drews should "rot in ."
Some of the threats "really freak me out," Buckles said while standing on his front porch after dark Tuesday night. As he spoke, a car slowed and stopped in front of Drew's home. It sat there idling for a few long minutes, then sped away. Buckles said it is a common occurrence.
"I just really hope that no one comes out here and does something insane," Buckles said. "If they do, I hope they get the right house."
Sheriff's Lt. David Tiefenbrunn said patrols have been stepped up around Drew's house. "There could be individuals out there with a vigilante-type at ude that might want to take revenge," he said.
The Drews — Lori, husband Curt and two children — live a one-story ranch. An older man at the house who described himself only as a relative said Lori Drew would not comment. He would not say if the family planned to move.
Ron and Tina Meier's home is four houses away from the Drews'. The sidewalk is curved, so the neighbors can't see each other from their front doors. The breach between the once-friendly families seems beyond repair.
"I think that what they have done is so de able, that I think it absolutely disgusts people," Tina Meier said. "I can't take one ounce of energy worrying about who does not like Lori Drew or who hates Lori Drew. I could not care less."
Just a year ago, Waterford Crystal Drive was the kind of quiet suburban street where joggers waved o while kids played in their front yards. Lately the road has been choked with TV news trucks, and neighbors hustle inside to avoid questions.
The row of brick-facade homes, with basketball nets and American flags out front, was carved out of the woods and pastures in the mid-1990s. Between rooftops, residents can see the neon signs of the strip mall restaurants near a highway that carries commuters some 35 miles to jobs in downtown St. Louis.
The subdivision and those surrounding it have street names evoking the good life, from Quaint Cottage Drive to Country Squire Circle.
The Drews used to fit in just fine, said John McIntyre, who described Lori Drew as an intensely social woman who never hesitated to stop and talk. She and Curt came over to McIntyre's home to look at his glassed-in porch because they were thinking of adding their own, he said.
McIntyre fondly remembered another guest — Megan. She came across the street to baby-sit McIntyre's 4-year-old daughter Genna and arrived with a clipboard and notes, determined to do the job right. He said the activity was good for Megan, who suffered from depression for years.
"She was a good kid," McIntyre said.
"I hope they get the right house"
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"No, No, No, her address 3614, not 3613, the dumb lives across the street!"
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Beat me to it...
Update:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27928608?GT1=43001
A Missouri mother on trial in a landmark cyberbullying case was convicted Wednesday of only three minor offenses for her role in a mean-spirited Internet hoax that apparently drove a 13-year-old girl to suicide.
The federal jury could not reach a verdict on the main charge against 49-year-old Lori Drew — conspiracy — and rejected three other felony counts of accessing computers without authorization to inflict emotional harm.
Instead, the panel found Drew guilty of three misdemeanor offenses of accessing computers without authorization. Each count is punishable by up to a year in prison and a $100,000 fine. Drew could have gotten 20 years if convicted of the four original charges.
U.S. District Judge George Wu declared a mistrial on the conspiracy count. There was no immediate word on whether prosecutors would retry her.
“I don’t have any satisfaction in the jury’s decision,” said Drew’s lawyer, Dean Steward. “I don’t think these charges should have ever been brought.”
Tina Meier, the mother of the dead girl, said Drew deserves the maximum of three years behind bars.
"For me it's never been about vengeance," she said. "This is about justice."
Prosecutors said Drew and two others created a fic ious 16-year-old boy on MySpace and sent flirtatious messages from him to teenage neighbor Megan Meier. The “boy” then dumped Megan in 2006, saying, “The world would be a better place without you.” Megan promptly hanged herself with a belt in her bedroom closet.
Prosecutors said Drew wanted to humiliate Megan for saying mean things about Drew’s teenage daughter. They said Drew knew Megan suffered from depression and was emotionally fragile.
“Lori Drew decided to humiliate a child,” U.S. Attorney Thomas O’Brien, chief federal prosecutor in Los Angeles, told the jury during closing arguments. “The only way she could harm this pretty little girl was with a computer. She chose to use a computer to hurt a little girl, and for four weeks she enjoyed it.”
O’Brien, who pronounced the case the nation’s first cyberbullying trial, said the jury’s decision sent a worthy message: “If you have children who are on the Internet and you are not watching what they are doing, you better be.”
Weighing evidence
Most members of the six-man, six-woman jury left court without speaking to reporters. One juror, who identified himself by his first name only, Marcilo, indicated jurors were not convinced Drew’s actions involved the intent alleged by prosecutors.
“Some of the jurors just felt strongly that it wasn’t tortious and everybody needed to stay with their feeling. That was really the balancing point,” he said.
The case hinged on an unprecedented — and, some legal experts say, questionable — application of computer-fraud law.
Drew was not directly charged with causing Megan’s death. Instead, prosecutors indicted her under the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which in the past has been used in hacking and trademark theft cases.
Among other things, Drew was charged with conspiring to violate the fine print in MySpace’s terms-of-service agreement, which prohibits the use of phony names and harassment of other MySpace members.
Drew’s lawyer, Steward, contended his client had little to do with the content of the messages and was not at home when the final one was sent. Steward also argued that nobody reads the fine print on service agreements.
Creating a phony profile
Prosecutors said Drew, her then-13-year-old daughter Sarah and Drew’s 18-year-old business assistant Ashley Grills set up the phony MySpace profile for a boy named “Josh Evans,” posting a photo of a bare-chested boy with tousled brown hair. “Josh” then told Megan she was “sexi” and assured her, “i love you so much.”
Grills allegedly sent the final, insulting message to Megan before she killed herself in the St. Louis suburb of Dardenne Prairie, Mo.
Missouri authorities said there was no state law under which Drew could be charged. But federal prosecutors in California claimed jurisdiction because MySpace is based in Beverly Hills.
Sarah Drew testified she never saw her mother use the MySpace account. But Grills, testifying under immunity from prosecution, said she saw Drew type at least one message under the name Josh Evans.
After the suicide, Missouri passed a law against cyber-harassment. Similar federal legislation has been proposed on Capitol Hill.
The trial’s outcome was a victory for prosecutors despite the lack of a felony conviction, said Nick Akerman, a New York lawyer who specializes in cases involving the federal computer act.
“What you learned is that the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is an extremely important tool in the federal arsenal against computer crime,” he said.
So if I make a fake Kori screen name and tell Tpark he can't post at ST anymore and he offs himself I can do jail time?
What the lady did may be chicken and I won't defend her lame ass but someone puts a belt around their own neck deserves what they get, I'm tired of this tree hugging nation blaming everything bad on someone else.
Another thing since the lady used a DELL computer shouldn't they also be charged as an accomplish to the crime? where does the bull end?.............
It was the wrong thing to do but it wasn't illegal. knows she did wrong though.
''I hate you''
''Boo-hoo /life''
She was 47, the girl was 13. Easy for an adult to with a little kids head, especially when your child is feeding you private information. She's getting off way too easy.
Yes but she thought it was a boy her age that was dissing her so that means it could have been any boy her age she thought she was talking to and it would have produced the same effects.
The girl was like an eggs she was going to crack at the first sign of rejection in her life.
We don't know exactly what was said between them, but with private information and the mind of an adult vs. a childs (especially when it comes to relationships). That little girl stood no chance. I agree she was unstable already, but that adult definitely contributed to her death even if she didn't actually do it herself. She got off easy IMO.
Let's say the girl is alive today then what should be done with the lady? Either your actions produce a consequence or they don't, why should it matter the outcome?
If I steal an Xmas elf off a persons lawn the penalty should be the same no matter what the owner decides to do. I should get the same amount of punishment that fits the crime.
But according to you If I steal an Xmas elf from a persons lawn and one of the kids can't take the pressure of losing an elf and decides to put a gun in his mouth I should do time for murder?
What if you say something bad about Time Duncan in the Spurs forum and my Daughter losses it and hangs herself are you going to prison?
What the lady did was wrong but where do you draw the line on others taking responsibility for their own actions?
Well the difference with this analogy is that it was done maliciously and on purpose, while having intimate knowledge of the girl and done over a period of time. Now lets say your adult neighbor knows your daughter and has knowledge of her fears and phobias or what she loves and holds close to her. If she's scared of the bogey man and they continually knock on her window over a period of time, leading her to believe that something was out to get her and she commits suicide because of it. Then yes they should be held responsible.
Your analogies were more random and per chance then anything. This was done with maliciousness and intimate knowledge of how to get to her psychologically.
If you shoot somebody and they survive is very different then shooting somebody and killing them. Yet you could shoot them at exactly the same place and in the same manner with the same caliber bullet. One could die and one could survive. If one dies and one survives then it's very different, even though in both instances you did exactly the same thing.
It's still attempted murder. and besides the gun was in "your" hands, This story is different the belt to hang the girl was in "her" hands ,there is slight a difference.
So by your way of thinking one has to assume what a person was thinking?
If that is the case then maybe Lee Harvey Olswald was innocent. Maybe in his mind he was doing a good thing for Jesus. Maybe he was just cleaning his rifle when it went off.
That logic can go both ways.
Another thing if a person is that fragile and mentally unstable why would you allow them a MySpace page? And who is to say someone else who is mentally ill goes around telling everyone on MySpace they are a loser should the mentally ill person go to jail also if there are mass suicides? or do the rules all of a sudden change because of their condition?
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