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why did you crucify him?
Conservative Jesus would drill in ANWR.
why did you crucify him?
E-V-E-R-Y * D-A-Y * L-I-F-E.
I'm talking about governments who, from one day to the other, pass a law where they create an asset tax (1% of your assets are now the property of Uncle Gaucho), or a tax checking accounts (every time to transfer money in or out of your checking account, 0.6% goes to Mr Argie IRS).
I'm talking about paying penalties if you consume too much energy in winter because these dumbasses in power forgot to promote investment in the energy sector (same things is happening now in summer).
I'm talking about governments that don't allow you to take your savings out of you bank because the banking system is collapsing. I'm talking about governments who do not honor their debts, i.e. if you held Argie T-bonds, the government screwed you and paid you cents on the $.
I'm talking about governments that allow people who want to protest anything (from fellow workers being fired, to dumpsters being built near their neighborhoods, to greenpiece activists) to cut off streets and highways, and people who are going to work are stuck in their ing cars for hours.
I'm talking about governments that co-exist with a collapsed and corrupt jusicial system and they do about it.
I'm talking about having 7 military governments in 60 years and in those 60 years, only one democratic government finishing its term.
That is what I'm talking when I'm trying to explain to your dumb head what change is. That is how governments affect people's everyday life. The Patriot Act is nothing people cannot adapt to, without major change.
You have managed to take a compliment I made towards the US into something negative.
ing moron.
cbf, go off.smeagol beware: replying in a typically predictable fashion to this one may reveal you to be an even bigger dumbass to those posters in this thread still on the fence between us
I could care less who is on the fence and who is a moron and cannot comprehend what I'm trying to say.
As MB said, you have no idea how good you have it and still you manage to , , .
And yes, I'm a foreigner who worked in the US for 9 years. And I have the right to criticize whatever I feel is worth criticizing of the American political and economic system, it's foreign policy or the American way of life.
I have never said the US should be nuked (the way you said Argentina should, repeatedly on this thread). The most I have criticized the US has been regarding it's foreign policy (which many AMERICANS do too, on a regular basis, on this board), some aspects of its economic policy towards the rest of the world (and I have done so in conjuction with criticism towards Europe and Japan), and some aspects of the American way of life which I find amusing.
So again, moron, come up with policies that have caused real change in your life, or simply shut the up.
I love the USA. Best Country in the world to live in, IMO. And the beauty of it is we can all we want. I love this place!!!!
As shocking as it may be to others.
Most policies effect our lives even though we may not realize it. The Patriot Act effects our lives as right as concealed weapon laws, gay marriage laws, etc. To thnk otherwise just doesn't make sense.
Ron Paul pandering to the black vote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/26/...-are-criminal/
Jesus smoked pot.
Addendum: IF boutons is against Ron Paul...I maybe need to reconsider how much I like him as a candidate...wanting to pull us out of Iraq is a huge issue to me...but boutons not liking him may be equally revealing....since boutons hates everyone that loves America.
Boutons hates me?
boutons even hates me, and according to cbf, I hate America.
Something is not right . . .
"boutons hates everyone that loves America."
yawn, just another version of the 1960s "love it or leave it" and "my country, right or wrong". Was pure primitive, chauvinist bull back then, is pure primitive, chauvinist bull now.
Link?Alot of his beliefs like thinking that, we as Americans are totally at fault for all the Mid east's problems,
i didn't realize you thought i was so poor i never use cell phones, email, and i guess you assumed i was blogging each day all day from a public library, i didn't realize these things
CR()\/\/NDD
You say you don't give a but i bait you into giving a blatantly overworded hegamboaesque response
CR()\/\/NDDDDDDDD I saiddd
Not sure there is a cure for your stupidity . . .
i didn't realize you thought i was so poor i never use cell phones, email, and i guess you assumed i was blogging each day all day from a public library, i didn't realize these things
CR()\/\/NDD
You say you don't give a but i bait you into giving a blatantly overworded hegamboaesque response
CR()\/\/NDDDDDDDD I saiddd
You might not be poor, but you are certainly an ignorant mother er if you think the Patriot Act is a reason for changing your everyday way life.
Aside from watching it on TV, you have no clue what goes on outside the US.
You think that by throughing out the "I bait you into . . . . " card you can dismiss all that I have said, proves once again your level of stupidity.
I guess I have to wait now for pimpo to call me a fascist or for mookie to state how you bloaded me
RP, certified doctor with years of science courses, doesn't believe in evolution. It's, horrors, only a theory!
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2..._evolution.php
Last edited by boutons_; 12-28-2007 at 12:49 PM.
I'm not sure there's any difference between Paul's views on evolution and faith and the rest of the candidates, D or R. Evolution is, yes, a theory. Much like Einstein's relativity. I think the absolutists on both sides do a disservice to our nation and mankind.
And your America is the cause of all the world's problems is even more tedious and lame...not to mention stupid.
As for Chauvinism...you are wholeheartedly aligned with and in support of a male chauviniswm movement that completely enslaves, brutalizes and dominates women to the degree that they aren't even human beings...don't lecture me on chauvinism...
Your head is so far up your ing ass it's not even funny.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Smeagol you're the only one who sees your stupid comments as a compliment. Gee thanks for pointing out we're not as ed up as Argentina, I guess I can go back to my Smeagol prescribed apathy!
And I ing GAVE you everyday life examples and you proceeded to marginalize them because our country isn't as ed up as yours or because according to you the Iraq situation doesen't affect me as much as forgieners. If this is the way you hand out compliments then I feel badly for your wife.
No major change regardless of who wins an election is a compliment, you ing moron.
It means your economic and political systems are extremely stable. It is a compliment to the stability of your country.
If you don't understand that, then you are as stupid as cbf.
Now go back to ignoring me. It looks like we are both better off.
So?And I ing GAVE you everyday life examples and you proceeded to marginalize them because our country isn't as ed up as yours
Your problem is you don't have perspective.
Not foreigners, but the people in Iraq. I'm not sure how you can argue that.or because according to you the Iraq situation doesen't affect me as much as forgieners.
Don't. My wife is pretty happy with the compliments she gets from me.If this is the way you hand out compliments then I feel badly for your wife.
So when should we care Smeagol? When our country is as ed up as yours? Thats when we should care about an election?
How can you be this stupid?
Here's the bottom line Smeagol. You openly advocated apathy which is pretty stupid on its own, but your reasons for it make the statement that much more foolish. You apparently lack the understanding of American History and the standard liberty and personal freedoms are held to in this country.
Whether or not Americans experience change on the scale of other people around the globe with the results of each election is irrelevant. We DO experience change here with each president and while YOU may marginalize things because YOU feel your elections bring about larger changes does not change the fact that WE DO experience change and those changes can effect us greatly.
When CBF brings up the Patriot Act and you dismiss it as something not be concerned about there is no compliment in your statement. There is some kind of stupid feeling that OUR concerns are unimportant in your eyes and therefor not valid. If you had ANY understanding of the feelings Americans have historically had with personal liberties you might have an understanding of why a piece of legislation like the patriot act can be so important here. Its funny that you say I lack perspective because if your initial statement indicates anything is your complete lack of perspective on what principles have made the United States what it is today and why those would be important to Americans.
You tried to undermine every issue I brought up as if you could somehow invalidate my concerns with those issues and how they effected me. Who the are you to tell me what should be important to me, Smeagol?
You can care whenever you feel like it, manny.
And rest assured your country will never be as ed up as mine, not in your lifetime, not in your kids lifetime, regardless of the Patriot Act, regardless of 8 years of Bush.
there sure are a bunch of phony libertarians thinking that the executive branch determinse their financial futures.
Here's the bottom line, manny. There are some posters on this board that don't like it one bit when a non American gives an opinion about stuff related to the US or the American way of life.
I get blasted by some idiots who can't stand my opinion on many American-related topics, when my opinion is as valid as yours or anyone else's.
The fact is there are at least two other American posters who have the same opinion as I do about this topic, but you and cbf chose to blast me, not them. I have to conclude that this is the case because I am not an American and in your narrow minds, I'm not en led to have an opinion on these topics.
Responding to your post quoted above, I know that personal liberties and freedom of speach is something Americans treasure and defend, sometimes with their lives. But I still think that the passing of the Patriot Act does not change the everyday lives of 99.9% of the American population.
I was living in the US when the legislation was passed. I interacted with thousands of Americans after the legislation was passed. I did not see one single example of how that law affected anybody's life.
I can understand that in a long period of time, if the Patriot Act opens the door to another law that intrudes in the private lives of Americans, and that law gives way to another law even more intrusive, that finally does have an effect on the citizens of the US. But I have agreed with this point dozens of posts ago. Changes stemming from government legislation, in the US, take time to materialize.
I cannot speak for anyone else. I didn't blast you until you went on a posting rampage defending your very stupid original statement. I'm not even sure who else has agreed with you in this thread but I can tell you your posts outnumber them by a 10:1 margin. I don't care if you're from the moon, your assertion is simply completely wrong.
First it was that we shouldn't care because things don't change much. Then it was because we don't change as much as Argentina and we don't know how good we have it. Now we shouldn't care because changes take time to materialize. You're dancing around like a monkey while someone plays a damn tune.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_and_programs
Thats a list of legislation passed and vetoed by Bush and his administration. I could also list the judgments handed down by every Bush appointed federal judge. I could also point you to the amount of debt racked up by Bush in Iraq.
Those are all actions that have effects - and very real affects - on American lives EACH AND EVERY DAY. You may ignore them, you may not notice them, you may not understand them, or you simply may be ignorant of their effects but that does not make their effects any less present and any less real.
If there is a reason you got blasted in this thread, Smeagol, it is because of the incredibly ignorant and blatantly incorrect stance you took and the way you defended it. When a person outside of the United States tells people inside the United States that they should not care about their elections because they don't change their lives while those US citizens are feeling the changes it is obviously going to piss people off. When you further compound it by trying to say you were giving a compliment and continue to dig your hole deeper don't be surprised if people get further annoyed and you get blasted.
Don't make this out to be Americans hating foreigner bull . YOU were the one who tried to lecture us on "how good we had it" and tried to tell us what we should concern ourselves with while advocating we just be apathetic about it.
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