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  1. #151
    Veteran DazedAndConfused's Avatar
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    I'm a Laker fan and I'll tell you the Lakers aren't winning a ring this season. We are still missing a piece or two, but we are definitely close to being an elite team.

    Moves we need to make = trade Lamar Odom, move Walton to the bench, cut Kwame.

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    Tim Duncan #1 TheNextGen's Avatar
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    Odom is a potential triple double that never gets it lol.

    Get rid of kwame to a team that wants to throw away contracts, trade odom and walton for anything.

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    Odom is a potential triple double that never gets it lol.

    Get rid of kwame to a team that wants to throw away contracts, trade odom and walton for anything.
    If we can move Walton to the bench it won't matter so much. I've never seen him play this bad before to be honest.

    But Odom definitely needs to go, he is about as worthless as they come. Apparently he was talking to Brandon Bass during the game saying, " you ain't gonna make that shot" as Bass hit like 3 or 4 jumpers in his grill.

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    If we can move Walton to the bench it won't matter so much. I've never seen him play this bad before to be honest.

    But Odom definitely needs to go, he is about as worthless as they come. Apparently he was talking to Brandon Bass during the game saying, " you ain't gonna make that shot" as Bass hit like 3 or 4 jumpers in his grill.
    Bass>>Odom. Mbenga>Odom.

  5. #155
    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    Well, this isn't good as far as the "Dirk needs to be more of a leader" meme goes:

    Dallas broke the game open with an 11-0 run to open the second half. The Lakers, who led much of the first half, never got back ahead.

    Mavs coach Avery Johnson said the spark came from a halftime speech from Nowitzki. However, Howard and Harris were oblivious.

    "I wasn't even paying attention," Howard said, insisting he really didn't know what reporters were talking about.

    "I was getting retaped," Harris said, trying to offer a plausible excuse.

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    Realistic Spurs Fan Amuseddaysleeper's Avatar
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    that's beyond hilarious

  7. #157
    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    that's beyond hilarious
    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....5b431628.html

    Jet has Dirk's back:

    "Oh, man, he let us have it," said Jason Terry. "He lit a fire under us, and we responded."

    Nowitzki, of course, downplayed his discussion at the half, joking that "I gave a tremendous speech. I said, 'Let's win the game.' "

    By all accounts, it was a bit more heartfelt than that.

    "I'm not talking about it," he said. "There's nothing to talk about. It was nothing special."

  8. #158
    Tim Duncan #1 TheNextGen's Avatar
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    Damn...odom has no D whatsoever

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    Veteran DazedAndConfused's Avatar
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    Damn...odom has no D whatsoever
    The remarkable thing is that even with Odom, Kwame, and Walton starting for our team we are still able to find ways to compete. Odom+Walton combined for 8 points tonight, Odom went scoreless the entire 2nd half to go long with 0 rebounds and 0 assists. Truly mind-numbing stats from a guy who is being paid $14 million. I think Walton shot the ball twice the entire game.

    This is why Bynum is such a big piece of the puzzle. He will give you a constant 13/10 every night, in fact before he went down he was consistently putting up 20+ pt games with 3-4 blocks and 10+ boards. He is the 2nd option Odom will never be on our team. When you slide LO to the 3rd option he becomes a far more effective player for us, but when you put that pressure on him to score he just folds like napkin.

  10. #160
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    Well every team has concerns. The Suns have rebounding and defense in particular the center position. The Mavs have concerns about mental toughness fair or not. The Spurs have to be concern that maybe the on and off switch will go out this season. The Pistons and Celts also have flaws.
    No, mental toughness is not an issue for a team that went to the Finals. It's what national media guys use as something to say for a team when they really don't know what's going on. Mavs have issues in their offense, because it gets stagnant at times, with too little ball movement and passing. They get by because they have very good one on one players. And they have issues at the 2 position on defense. Starting Jet and Harris has been costly in the playoffs as they are too small to guard big backcourts. Yet we don't have a realiable 2 guy yet and I still don't know what we are going to do in the playoffs. And this issue has been around for 2 years and the only solution the FO comes up with is to sign veterans on the decline that never end up playing in the playoffs. We gave up on Marquis Daniels too quickly.
    Those are the issues of the Mavs, and those are the issues that cost them in the playoffs and the rings they should have by this point. I hope people like us that really follow the NBA should know better than using arguments such as 'mental toughness' or my favourite 'chemacterillity' (Bill Simmons' creation).

  11. #161
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    Simmons is such a tool. It takes mental toughness and discipline to eliminate a team like the Spurs. Throw in Damp's torn rotator cuff, Dirk's bone spurs, and the fact that this team peaked around February, along with the worst possible matchup against the Warriors w/ J-Rich, and there you go.

    There's a sliver and a grain of truth to the "Mavs and especially Dirk lack mental toughness" meme, but it's been blown way out of proportion. The media just repeats certain themes over and over again in lieu of real analysis. They say he's not a leader, but they only define leadership as a fiery guy who will get up in the locker room and make Knute Rockne speeches. If the Mavs need Dirk to do that to get themselves motivated, then they have bigger problems than we thought. That's one facet and component of leadership, and the Mavs have plenty of people who can perform that particular function.

  12. #162
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    Well, this isn't good as far as the "Dirk needs to be more of a leader" meme goes:
    ya i saw the interview on the postgame on TXA-21 and when the reporter asked J-ho about the speech, he said " Who coach's speech?" and the reporter said "No Dirk's", J-Ho had a look of WTF are you talking about....

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    That's some funny . Maybe Howard and Harris heard about the MVP poll and didn't want Dirk to get more votes.

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