Kurt Thomas is the only trade idea I've heard on here that makes any sense. He's better than any of the bigs the Spurs have besides Duncan. He's good defensively and most importantly he can actually hit an open shot.
San Antonio- The Spurs may have pulled off the steal of the century in a one-sided blockbuster deal that saw the LaKer's Kobe Bryant, Chris Mihm, and Andrew Bynum traded to San Antonio for Brent Barry, Francisco Elson, Fabricio Oberto, Ian Mahinmi, and the rights to Tiago Splitter. "We kept hearing about all these folks on spurstalk.com that had all the ancient Chineese trade secrets. RC and I were skeptical at first, but were suprised by the wealth of knowledge we recieved. Big ups to the posters over there, couldn't have pulled this off without you!" Pop does have some regrets about the trade. "Mitch Kupchak will definately be fired for agreeing to such an assed-backwards trade, but hey.. He's down with the purple & gold, it's silver & black all day over here es. Peace out!" Associated Press
Yeh his contract is expiring
makes no sense from us if you going to trade our expirings for him, unless PJ wants more on our side of the bargain of the table
he is a short term solution just like with nazr....
umm him of jeff foster, take ur pick
Who started the Barry talk?
I swear...anytime there's a problem, trade Barry. I think you guys think that can cure cancer or something.
Anyway...how you like our tuning the corner now?
Me? I consider this payback for aholes snubbing my game thoughts. Karma's a .
Who cares about PJ -- go to the man who signs the checks (and will cash the Spurs' checks).makes no sense from us if you going to trade our expirings for him, unless PJ wants more on our side of the bargain of the table
Thomas is waaayyy better then Foster. I don't know what the Spurs have that the Sonics would actually want though.
Thomas is better than Foster. Barry, Elson and #2. PJ owes us that much.
I'm not even sure Thomas' contract is expiring. Most places I look (outside Hoopshype) say that it's through 08-09.
Pop is probably at dinner with PJ and Presti discussing this as I type.
"The Knicks signed Kurt Thomas to a 4 year, $30.9 million contract extension. He is now signed through the 2008-09 season."
ESPN says it's up this year.
Who perpetuated it?
I have been against trading Barry all season. The only way I trade him now is if his calf is going to be an injury that never really heals.
Do you root for or against the Spurs when Barry is out?
Snubbing? What was wrong with your game thoughts?
Yeah, I'm sure they got it from Hoopshype.
I found the report when originally re-upped his contract.
He had one year left on his contract (04-05) when he extended for another 4 years. So that would take him through 08-09. But maybe 08-09 is an option year.
Fixed.
Awesome...it's about time you figured the whole Barry thing outI have been against trading Barry all season. The only way I trade him now is if his calf is going to be an injury that never really heals.
For generally...Do you root for or against the Spurs when Barry is out?
But I've already gone on record as saying I want the Spurs to have a low seed this season because I don't think it will impact their play one way or the other...and because I like this draft.
I suppose the Barry/Finley debate is moot now that Barry is injured, but why does Finley start and get more playing time when they're healthy? I never understood that. To me, Barry and Finley are the same player. They're out there to shoot, and neither player plays great defense. However, Barry is a better passer than Finley and shoots a better percentage. If the Spurs are going to have a guy out there whose job is to shoot jumpers, why not put a guy out there who actually shoots a good percentage? Also, I swear that every time Finley touches the Ball he shoots it.
Fixed.
ROFL @ Generally. I'm going to miss you on the forum once you leave when Barry retires.
Oh and this draft pretty much sucks.
Totally understand and agree as to the importance of Parker's ability to break down defenses and create shots for others. My point has always been, "but he shouldn't be the only one".
Parker is one of our Big Three and his skills are unique to this team. Therein lies the issue. There's no one else on the roster that can do what he does. Manu shoots way too much and the only player he looks to setup is Oberto. So that's not the answer.
It be nice to have another player (backup PG) who do some similar things - even for smaller stretches.
well you should worry about the losses cause the spurs might miss the plyoffs. So what then healthy team can do? Go fishing?
Manu had 7 assists in today's game...He normally gets a good amount of assists, actually. I think in one of the recent games, he also had 7 assists. So he doesn't just set up Oberto...he sets up a ton of guys...
The problem is that Finley and Bruce are not hitting their shots right now...How do you get assists when the other guys are not making their shots?
Anyway, I'm really hoping TP gets better real soon...it's hard to win any games with any of the Big Three missing...especially when the role players are struggling and the team is not doing so good...
Anyone know how many games TP might miss? I know he won't play against the Suns...I am glad that he's getting the rest...I felt Pop should have even sat him sooner because anyone could see that he was about 60% healthy...it's just that right now the team especially needs him.
Last edited by greenleo; 01-30-2008 at 04:32 AM.
You're not going to keep them out of the Olympics, TPark. They're kind of a big deal. Qualifications are one thing, the actual tournament is something else. When the Lakers can pull Bryant out and the Cavs can pull LeBron out then the Spurs can have the balls to pull Manu out...
I don't know what game you were watching today. Manu could've had like 18 assists if guys hit wide open shots. The ball movement was there. The Spurs constantly had way more open, high quality looks than the Sonics. But Bowen, Udoka, Finley, Vaughn, Bonner, they all missed shots that are no more contested than shooting by yourself at the gym.
Parker is a huge part of what this team does. It sounds like an excuse but it's the truth. Add in some missed games by Duncan and Ginobili and it's not shocking that the Spurs are sucking. Not only does Parker create easy points himself off layups, he's the guy who is the best on the team at breaking down defenses and creating open shots for three-point shooters. When Parker got hurt, not only do the Spurs miss out on his points, they miss out on all the easy three-pointers he creates.
People like to whine about Bruce Bowen but the player Bowen most relies on offensively is Parker. Most of Bowen's three-pointers come off of Parker passes. Duncan and Ginobili combined don't create as many shots for Bowen as Parker does. Up until Parker got hurt, Bowen was having his best season ever shooting the ball. Since? He has struggled mightily and has tried to make up for it by creating his own shots .... which has been a disaster.
A bad part about being such a well oiled machine is that if a cog gets damaged, the whole machine is going to feel the impact. Parker has sucked for the last six plus weeks. As a result, the Spurs' machine as sucked.
If Parker can get healthy, this team will be fine. Duncan and Ginobili are playing well. If Parker can add some easy points at the rim and help create shots for shooters such as Bowen, the Spurs can get back to how they were playing in November.
If Parker can't get healthy, this team will look old and will lose in the first or second round.
Oh and I will rant about one thing . . .
FVCK THE FRENCH DOCTORS AND FVCK THE FRENCH NATIONAL TEAM FOR MAKING PARKER PLAY THROUGH HIS ANKLE PAIN. YOU FVCKING PVSSY AZZ TEAM SUCKS. YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST SURRENDERED BEFORE THE DAMN TOURNAMENT. THIS ANKLE INJURY AND CURRENT SLUMP IS YOUR DAMN FAULT, YA ESCARGOT EATING PANSIES.
Ahh, that felt good.
What does this have to do what what you quoted? If you are arguing my point that Parker is key in getting the Spurs open three-point shots, I suggest you look at the Spurs' three-point percentage before Parker started sucking and after he starting sucking. There has been like a 7-8% drop.
Parker has more assists on three-pointers than next three best players on the team combined. You can believe that the Spurs just miss open threes when Parker isn't around or you can take a closer look.
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