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    I don't think so. The spurs isn't really that big on trades. but I can never be really sure. The NBA is a tournament run for profits. If the SA think they can get more by shipping out contracts, I wouldn't blame them.

    But as an observer, I believe that no trades shall be made. The team is still compe ive. The losses we got in the couple of games are close ones (except for NO).
    Spurs aren't big on trades huh?

    Why is it that they have made or attempted to make (Barry for JR Smith almost-trade) a deadline deal in each of the last three seasons?

    Spurs are not immune to making deals and I would expect them to actively seek to trade one of their lesser role players to shave salary and get out from under the lux tax.

    They may or may not be able to pull something off before the deadline, but I guarantee they'll be looking to do something.

    If they can get back a young prospect in the process I think it's all the better.

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    Spurs aren't big on trades huh?

    Why is it that they have made or attempted to make (Barry for JR Smith almost-trade) a deadline deal in each of the last three seasons?

    Spurs are not immune to making deals and I would expect them to actively seek to trade one of their lesser role players to shave salary and get out from under the lux tax.

    They may or may not be able to pull something off before the deadline, but I guarantee they'll be looking to do something.

    If they can get back a young prospect in the process I think it's all the better.
    Aren't big on trades = trade isn't in the priority list of the spurs. Not immunity from trades.

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    Plus, I like guys that can block shots.

    I look for that and that's why I like Swift and Thomas.

    A lot of people look at low-pot players and concentrate on PTS and REB, but shotblocking makes all the difference!

    ...which translates into a lower opposition FG%. A statistic that Pop is very keen on monitoring.

    As of today, the Spurs are allowing opponents to shoot an unheard of 46% FG%, while shooting 45% as a team themselves.

    Which may be the first time, during the Duncan years, that the Spurs have ever allowed an opponent to shoot better from the field than they do. They're still a lot of season left, but this is yet another indictment as to how this team has struggled so far this season.
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    Do we really want Tyrus Thomas? Sure he's athletic and was a high pick, but he hasn't developed, his at ude has been questioned, and he has no bball IQ. He also will earn a much higher salary than either Mahinmi or Splitter. Does any of that translate to success with Pop, or the NBA for that matter? What's the best he can be potentially? Samuel Dalembert?? No thanks!

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tyrus+thomas+lazy
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    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tyrus+thomas+bust
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    I think we're really underappreciating what we have in Mahinmi and Splitter. Both have shown to be humble and hard-working players who improve steadily. Athletically they are not as freakish as Thomas, but they are a huge step up from what we have now.

    Just for comparison

    Tiago:

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    Ian:

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    Ian (Marcus Williams adjusted):

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    Nicely done.

    Then again, I wouldn't hire Google to be a basketball scout:

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    I'd say Yes, we could use Thomas, but there's a reason the Bulls drafted essentially the same exact player the following year in Joakim Noah. Even if he's a bit taller, Noah can't shoot, either, is a bundle of energy, rebounds, blocks shots.
    The Bulls are packed with talent at every position other than center. That's why they went with Noah. Paxson just hasn't figured out that fielding a roster 12 deep in talent doesn't work in the NBA. You need parts that fit together. If Paxson ever figures that out that'd be bad news for the NBA because the Bulls have a lot of good pieces.

    TT gets 4.4 rpg at only 13 minutes played per, a stat which I'm sure is almost completely driving timvp's advocacy. But why in the world only 13 mpg?
    I like his blocks more than I like his rebounding. Well actually, the thing I like most about him is he's possibly a buy low that could become a stud down the road.

    And the reason Thomas only plays 13 minutes is the Bulls are stacked with duplicate players. Thomas plays mostly power forward and the Bulls have Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, Joakim Noah, Andres Nocioni, Viktor Khryapa and Luol Deng who all can all play power forward. That's a lot of players to beat out for playing time. Especially on a team that is desperately trying to win and for a coach who needs the team to turn it around ASAP if he wants to have the job next year.

    If you've estimated Mahinmi won't get the job done, then see if you can get Thomas. But I really don't think you're finding any kind of future starter. You're getting - I you not - Renaldo Balkman.
    Again, Balkman is a small forward. Thomas would be a power forward for the Spurs. They have similar energy levels and Balkman can't shoot either but he'd have to play small forward for the Spurs.

    Thomas could help right away in spots because of his shotblocking ability. He's not a good fundamental defender yet but even the Bulls are much better defensively when he's on the court. Down the line is where the potential payoff could be a lot bigger. If Thomas figures it out, he's a guy who could easily average 12 points, 10 rebounds and 3 blocks in the NBA while becoming a defensive force.

    I'd take the risk and trade for that type of potential. Mahinmi and Splitter are both good prospects but Thomas is a better prospect who is more likely to become more than a role player.
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    The Bulls are packed with talent at every position other than center. That's why they went with Noah. Paxson just hasn't figured out that fielding a roster 12 deep in talent doesn't work in the NBA. You need parts that fit together. If Paxson ever figures that out that'd be bad news for the NBA because the Bulls have talent.

    I like his blocks more than I like his rebounding. Well actually, the thing I like most about him is he's possibly a buy low that could become a stud down the road.

    And the reason Thomas only plays 13 minutes is the Bulls are stacked with duplicate players. Thomas plays mostly power forward and the Bulls have Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, Joakim Noah, Andres Nocioni, Viktor Khryapa and Luol Deng who all can all play power forward. That's a lot of players to beat out for playing time. Especially on a team that is desperately trying to win and for a coach who needs the team to turn it around ASAP if he wants to have the job next year.

    Again, Balkman is a small forward. Thomas would be a power forward for the Spurs. They have similar energy levels and Balkman can't shoot either but he'd have to play small forward for the Spurs.

    Thomas could help right away in spots because of his shotblocking ability. He's not a good fundamental defender yet but even the Bulls are much better defensively when he's on the court. Down the line is where the potential payoff could be a lot bigger. If Thomas figures it out, he's a guy who could easily average 12 points, 10 rebounds and 3 blocks in the NBA while becoming a defensive force.

    I'd take the risk and trade for that type of potential. Mahinmi and Splitter are both good prospects but Thomas is a better prospect who is more likely to become more than a role player.
    Very salient points. With Thomas' athleticism, I think you'd certainly want to play him at the 4 spot so he could better utilize his skills in the paint and on offense to get cheap baskets. He's not a good enough scorer of defender to play out on the perimeter.

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    That's the thing.

    We need another shotblocker.

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    When Toni come back healthy , IF spurs get Tyrus Thomas !!!!!!!! quote me!!!!!
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    When Toni come back healthy , IF spurs get Tyrus Thomas !!!!!!!! quote me!!!!!
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    He looked pretty damn good last night, but Boylan's decision to not only keep him in the game late in the 4th but also to give him the green light to take all those shots (which, by the way, kept the Bulls in the game) suggests to me that they might not be as inclined to move him as many of us would like to think.

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    Agreed Granger.

    Dude looked awesome vs GS last night, his defense and shot blocking would've been a welcome addition.

    It was a pipedream anyways.

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    I would really like to see TT in San Antonio. But I really doubt it will happen. As it was stated before I would also like to see another shotblocker next to TD.

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    He looked pretty damn good last night, but Boylan's decision to not only keep him in the game late in the 4th but also to give him the green light to take all those shots (which, by the way, kept the Bulls in the game) suggests to me that they might not be as inclined to move him as many of us would like to think.
    He did look very good

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    The Bulls have fielded much more steady trade interest in another Thomas -- Tyrus Thomas -- but word is Chicago won't consider moving him now. Which makes some sense, since it'd be tough to get any kind of value for Thomas (as with most Bulls) because this season has been such a nightmare.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...dime-080209-10

    Que dramaqueen comment by Spurs Dynasty 21.

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    jermaine Oneal

    thats what we need

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    thats what we need
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