Suns and Heat in Talks of Marion/Shaq Trade

[TDMVPDPOY]

there moves dont solve there problems

so whats the point of salary cutting the last few seasons and givin up draft picks, then to turn around and trade for a big mac with 40m remaining on his contract?

suns should do it if they want bruce bowen to defend nash all game, less one overrated player the spurs have to deal with

[ducks]

suns should have traded amare for kg not marion for shaq

[BillsCarnage]

But wasnt it obvious that Marion was gone after this season anyway? If so, I dont see it as as much of a loss.

I thought he would have been gone last summer. From a financial standpoint this screws the Suns more than having Marion and Banks. The Suns, with Marion and Banks, would have had up to 9 players under contract for next season and are already at the tax threshold. With this trade they'll be in the exact same position but with 8 players under contract. How the heck are they going to fill the roster w/o being over the tax???

Unless there are other trades in the works it just doesn't make sense on the court or with salaries.

[ducks]

the only think good for the suns is that in shaq's last year they have a great trade assest a HUGE expiring contract

[ludda]

Whos next on the knee-jerk trade list in the West?
1. Denver
2. Dallas
3. ....

[baseline bum]

Ric Bucher reported on ESPN that the Sons expect Shaq to be a defensive presence, and not someone that they'll run plays for on the other end.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...goryId=2459788

I guess they forgot Shaq's mentality about D...

If you feed the big dog, he will guard the yard. If you don’t feed him, he’s just going to walk around and get bored, and he ain’t going to do .

Still, I'm not for anything that changes who the Sons are. The Spurs have owned them ever since they got Nash, and while I don't expect that to change, it's still an unknown vs. the certainty that they would have gone down to the Spurs again.

[mardigan]

I thought he would have been gone last summer. From a financial standpoint this screws the Suns more than having Marion and Banks. The Suns, with Marion and Banks, would have had up to 9 players under contract for next season and are already at the tax threshold. With this trade they'll be in the exact same position but with 8 players under contract. How the heck are they going to fill the roster w/o being over the tax???

Unless there are other trades in the works it just doesn't make sense on the court or with salaries.

Marion has a player option and there was no way he wasnt going to opt out though.

[baseline bum]

Wow, Phoenix should have just re-signed Joe Johnson if they're going to throw fiscal responsibility into the wind.

[Whisky Dog]

suns should have traded amare for kg not marion for shaq

Minn didn't want just Amare.

[BillsCarnage]

vs. the certainty that they would have gone down to the Spurs again.

The assumption is that they would meet in the PO's this year.. Remember, it is an even numbered year.

[CarefreeAZ]

With our starting 5 we could replace the Spurs as the oldest team:

Shaq - 35
Amare - 26
Hill - 35
Nash - 34
Bell - 29 or 30

might have to change the name of that Jack Macallum book to "27 seconds or less"

[mardigan]

Still, I'm not for anything that changes who the Sons are. The Spurs have owned them ever since they got Nash, and while I don't expect that to change, it's still an unknown vs. the certainty that they would have gone down to the Spurs again.

Thats the best take I've read. Marion never scared me and proved he wasnt a difference maker in taking the Suns to the next level.
Any shake up scares me more than the same team the Spurs beat every year.

[dbreiden83080]

On a side note, should we nominate Marion for ASS-CLOWN OF THE YEAR, since he seems thrilled to death to leave a team that gives him a shot to win the championship for a team that's season has been over since training camp ended??

Well done Shawn, i applaud you're committment to winning.

[mardigan]

On a side note, should we nominate Marion for ASS-CLOWN OF THE YEAR, since he seems thrilled to death to leave a team that gives him a shot to win the championship for a team that's season has been over since training camp ended??

Well done Shawn, i applaud you're committment to winning.

Hey, at least he upgrades from the 3rd to the 2nd option

[ShoogarBear]

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/...=106285&page=8
Seems spilt

I didn't read the whole thread, but most seemed horrified.

[remingtonbo2001]

I know what did this...It was the loss they suffered on Thursday.

If you want to read some intresting stuff, go to phxsuns.net.

Halarious.

[baseline bum]

On a side note, should we nominate Marion for ASS-CLOWN OF THE YEAR, since he seems thrilled to death to leave a team that gives him a shot to win the championship for a team that's season has been over since training camp ended??

Well done Shawn, i applaud you're committment to winning.

I'd be happy as to be leaving hot-ass desert Phoenix for the land of hot-ass Cubanas and Puertoriquenas.

[dbreiden83080]

I'd be happy as to be leaving hot-ass desert Phoenix for the land of hot-ass Cubanas and Puertoriquenas.

You must subscribe to Marion's Newsletter.

[lrrr]

Let me ask you as a Suns fan, what do you think the Suns are thinking here?? How is losing Marion for a out of shape, out of prime and always injured Shaq make any sense at all.

but, but, but.... the RATINGS!

If nothing else, this makes for one of an interesting JOURNEY.

[dbreiden83080]

When the Heat made the deal for Shaq, it made sense. He was not what he had been in his prime but he was still very good and productive. It worked they won the le with him at Center. The Shaq then and now is like night and day though. This is almost like they are making the deal just because his name his Shaquille O'Neal.

Has Kerr been hitting the hard or something???

[mardigan]

When the Heat made the deal for Shaq, it made sense. He was not what he has been in his prime but he was still very good and productive. It worked they won the le with him at Center. The Shaq then and now is like night and day though. This is almost like they making the deal just because his name his Shaquille O'Neal.

Has Kerr been hitting the hard or something???

If guys like Shaw, Thomas and Skinner can be difference makers for them, I think even the corpse of Shaq can help a little.

[dbreiden83080]

but, but, but.... the RATINGS!

If nothing else, this makes for one of an interesting JOURNEY.

LOL, yeah ratings and fun equal whining and complaining for Suns fans in June when they again are NOT in the finals.

[dbreiden83080]

If guys like Shaw, Thomas and Skinner can be difference makers for them, I think even the corpse of Shaq can help a little.

Corpse for a live body, yeah great deal.

[ludda]

Shaq is not the same guy he was with Miami in 06 and even then he wasn't some brute force that couldn't be contained. Wade carried them most of the way.

If Marion was leaving anways, I gues I see the logic. However, trading your best defender and glue guy for a declining, oft-injured Snaq is very risky.

[mardigan]

Corpse for a live body, yeah great deal.

Yea but its a HUGE corpse