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    Houston is in the mix too.

    Not really.

    They can't pick him up off waivers, so they are only in the free agent mix, and nearly everyone agrees he'll go to a contender for a chance at a third ring.

    That would not include Houston at this juncture.

    It would include LA, Phoenix and us.

    Of all of those - apparently, we can pay the most (MLE) and anyone over the cap who picked him up off waivers would have to pay between $7 and $8 million for Barry - and that price might be too high. Otherwise, anyone over cap will have to pay dollar for dollar for him.

    Who knows what he'll do? There are some good signs that he might return, I hope he'll return, but who knows?
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    What the incentive to return here? To give assholes like TPark a reason to celebrate?
    I guess his family being here is too ing obvious? Or another ring?

    , for all we know we talked to Brent before doing this deal and got his blessing and assurances he'd come back after the waiver period and 30 days was over.

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    What the incentive to return here? To give assholes like TPark a reason to celebrate?
    Count me as one of those assholes as well.

    Party at my house March 22nd.

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    Spurs loyalty pays off again, i love it

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    What the incentive to return here? To give assholes like TPark a reason to celebrate?
    To defend his championship.

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    Spurs loyalty pays off again, i love it
    I'd wait until he's here before I celebrated loyalty too too much.

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    Barry is a perfect fit in Phoenix. Not only does he spread the floor and hit threes, he can run the point while Nash is out of the game. How long have the Suns been looking for someone to do that? It doesn't matter who guards him because he'll get wide open shots in transition and when teams double Shaq and Amare.

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    Come on , if timmy will take one for the team surely brent would. we talkin bout brent barry

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    Barry is a perfect fit in Phoenix. Not only does he spread the floor and hit threes, he can run the point while Nash is out of the game. How long have the Suns been looking for someone to do that? It doesn't matter who guards him because he'll get wide open shots in transition and when teams double Shaq and Amare.
    Teams haven't had to double Shaq for two years and the Spurs have shown that they are more than willing to let Amare get his and shut down the other Phoenix shooters.

    Go back to the basketball general board where maybe you can keep up.

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    Quit being such a ing drama queen. , Jacque Vaughn could check Barry defensively.
    No he couldn't...Barry is tougher to guard than you think he is. And he knows what to do with the ball when he is guarded...being able to pass quickly and find the open guy is a ing high offensive skill...Spurs fans are just too ing stupid to realize that.



    And you mean to tell me that the 'Stache is going to bench one of Bell or Barbosa (his only semi-competent perimeter defenders) in crunch time to trot Barry out there? Gimme a break.

    And you mean to tell me you think D'antoni gives a about defense if he thinks he can win it with offense?

    D'antoni would like nothing better than to stick it up the ass of the entire NBA that said offensive teams can't win les...and he's right...offensive teams can win les....it's just more expensive and difficult to pull off.

    Have you listened to anything he's said?

    He despises the concept of defense.

    In crunch time who are you proposing Barry guard? Parker, Manu, or Finley.

    Because Bruce Bowen is never on the court for the Spurs, now is he?



    The first two would clown him off the dribble, and Finley could take him into the post.

    Oh get off ing Finley's jock...Barry is shooting better from 3 than that er is from 2....and he hasn't had a post game in 5 years. He's the guy running on fumes and on his last legs...or haven't you noticed that he's sucked for all but about 5 weeks of the last 2 seasons?

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    Wow Whott is likely to implode on his own illogical man love for Barry.

    Barry is the only reason we have won rings in SA. It is his presence that makes makes Manu, Tim, and Tony all stars and Final MVp contenders.

    I like Barry, but I think Udoka gives us a of a lot more in terms of intangibles than Barry does. Still I would love to have Barry back as a veteran dead eye who knows the Spurs system if for nothing else than the stability that brings us in the playoffs.

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    ...or haven't you noticed that he's sucked for all but about 5 weeks of the last 2 seasons?
    Are you counting the playoffs where he averaged 12 a game and shot 48% in that?

    Or are you just gonna fall back on the finals where he hurt his back?

    Amazing how Barry can get the injury excuse but Finley cant.

    Grow up.

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    am i the only one that sees this clearly? all the reasons i've heard for him to go to phx are BS . he's clearly gonna be a spur again this season, if possible. which it is . welcome back brent, rest up that calf ya hear!

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    Come on , if timmy will take one for the team surely brent would. we talkin bout brent barry

    Here is what I know:

    1- Barry has to clear waivers. Pheonix could decide they don't want to risk him returning to the Spurs or possibly making their LA nightmare worse and utilize their trade exception to claim him from waivers. I don't think they will - it's a lot of money, but who knows?

    2- Barry becomes a free agent on Saturday evening if he doesn't clear waivers. That means the ball is in his court. He can do whatever he wants, regardless of any tacit agreements or under the table deals that were made.

    3- There are several teams who indicated interest in obtaining Barry, and at least 2 of those are contenders for a le.

    4- He has to wait 30 days to sign with the Spurs. That is a long time for Pheonix or LA or anyone to work on him. It's also plenty of time to see how these new trades are working out, if he wants to rest for a couple of weeks. There is no reason to think he might not take a look around, listen to some deals and decide, , if I play for the Suns, I have a better chance at a ring.

    Who knows? I think he'll come back here, but there is no guarantee. I think he's a stand up guy, but I can't begrudge him an extra million or more in salary if another team is willing to pay it.

    Further, I'm tired of the argument that Barry already left money on the table to come here. He did, and he got 2 rings for his troubles. Who is to say he doesn't look at that, look at the offers on the table and decide this is his last chance to pad the savings account before he retires? He's got rings and the luxury of going to a contender. Who the knows what he'll do?

    We can speculate all day, but no one can say what will happen until he clears waivers and signs with a team.

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    If you go to the Suns, Barry.....

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    Last night the Lakers doubled Shaq the entire first half. In the second, he scored 8 straight points in the 4th quarter against single coverage.

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    He'll be back.

    I love being a Spurs fan.

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    To defend his championship.

    As opposed to playing a bigger part on helping a team win their first?



    I don't know what he's going to do...I like him as a player, but I don't think he's Mr. Loyalty like you guys think he is...

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    Further, I'm tired of the argument that Barry already left money on the table to come here
    Doesn't make it any less true.

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    Because Bruce Bowen is never on the court for the Spurs, now is he?





    ?
    That's who Nash guards

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    In the second, he scored 8 straight points in the 4th quarter against single coverage.
    Single coverage from pau gasol, and when did he become such a stud defender?

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    The blurb about the trade on the Sonics website says waived. If he was waived, he has to clear waivers before he can sign with anyone. If he was bought out, he should be completely free to sign with anyone except the Spurs immediately.

    I don't see them buying him out since it's an expiring contract, so I imagine the waived him and he'll be available to sign for everyone but the Spurs on Saturday, and for the Spurs 28 days later.

    Actually the league doesn't count weekends, so it would be Tuesday.

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    Are you counting the playoffs where he averaged 12 a game and shot 48% in that?

    Or are you just gonna fall back on the finals where he hurt his back?

    Amazing how Barry can get the injury excuse but Finley cant.

    Grow up.

    Um...Barry flat out beat Finley out the past two seasons, despite Pop's mindset, and only lost his spot due to injury...both times.

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    Um...Barry flat out beat Finley out the past two seasons, despite Pop's mindset, and only lost his spot due to injury...both times.


    Right right.

    As long as you believe that.

    What was barry's injury in the 06 playoffs that had him get lit up by Stackhouse like a Vegas Slot machine?

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    When he has the ball 5 feet from the basket against single coverage, he'll score on anyone or get whoever is guarding him in foul trouble.

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