Game Thoughts: Spurs vs. Hawks Feb. 25

[Holt's Cat]

What cost the Spurs a repeat was the inability to stop the Mavs' O due to Nowitzki at the 4 and the defensive ability of Harris and Diop to limit Parker's penetration. Who was the mastermind behind that? That's right.

Why'd the Spurs have a problem guarding Nowitzki when they had not before? They dealt the guy who could guard him 1 on 1 in a cost cutting move.

[whottt]

So your ing beef should be with Pop and not Finley if that's what you believe.

No...my beef is with Finley for playing good enough to convince us that it might work...that's what he does.

[baseline bum]

No...my beef is with Finley for playing good enough to convince us that it might work...that's what he does.

So you basically hate Finley for not playing like Brent Barry did in that series?

[whottt]

What cost the Spurs a repeat was the inability to stop the Mavs' O due to Nowitzki at the 4 and the defensive ability of Harris and Diop to limit Parker's penetration. Who was the mastermind behind that? That's right.

We don't know for sure Oberto wouldn't have made a difference...he guarded Dirk well in the 6 minutes of PT he got...and Pop he even said he earned more minutes with that performance(that he never got).


Instead Pop went with the experienced vet...and small ball.

Why'd the Spurs have a problem guarding Nowitzki when they had not before? They dealt the guy who could guard him 1 on 1 in a cost cutting move.

Well Mr. Bryant...on that one we agree

[Holt's Cat]

No...my beef is with Finley for playing good enough to convince us that it might work...that's what he does.

So Finley's thrown into playing out of position and it's his fault? Funny how the king of perimeter defense Brenda Barry wasn't considered.

[whottt]

So you basically hate Finley for not playing like Brent Barry did in that series?

I don't hate him for that as I said earlier...but that is what he does.

And Brent didn't get anything but primarily garbage minutes in that series...


Laugh all you want, but he wouldn't have done a worse job gaurding Dirk than anyone else...it wasn't like we stopped Dirk.

[T Park]

Finley had nothing to do with winning that Denver and Phoenix series last year either BTW.

Forgot to mention that.

[baseline bum]

I don't hate him for that as I said earlier...but that is what he does.

The reason I hate Finley is because...

A. He was the heart and soul of the Mavs. I don't myself out as easily as you guys do.

B. He was a worse Bowen whiner than Ray Allen. Again...I don't myself out as easily as you guys do.

C. He did turn cancerous in Dallas. And that's the main reason they let him go.

D. We added him to a championship team and becamse his old team's . Call it krma or whatever you want...but just don't say it didn't happen.

LMAO @ Part A. Especially considering you're one of the biggest Robert Horry fans on the board. Horry was part of two much more bitter rivals than Dallas ever has been, and Finley never smacked David Robinson in the nuts after losing a playoff game either.

B. Yeah, he whined about Bowen once in 05, and gave him an elbow into the stands. So what?

C. Yeah, real cancer

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2135039

"This is the hardest part of our business," said Donnie Nelson, the team's president of basketball operations. "Mike and I started out in Phoenix together, got reunited here and obviously he was a key part in rebuilding this franchise. ... To share memories like that, it's been a very difficult several weeks for this franchise."

"Just what he's meant on and off the court, he's impacted every one from fans to the front office," Nelson said. "Ultimately, it's our responsibility to do what's in the best interest of the Dallas Mavericks, but Michael has a special place in Mark's heart, my heart, and a special place in the franchise. At the end of the day, this just feels right."

The Mavs avoid a dollar-for-dollar tax on Finley's $15.9 million salary for the 2005-06 season. The two-time All-Star is due $17.3 million and $18.6 million over the final two seasons of the seven-year contract he signed in 2001.

I bolded the parts that contradict your stupid argument to make it easier for you.

It had nothing to do with saving $51.8 million in payments to the league for a non-max guy on the tail end of a max contract?

So basically, you're full of ing whottt, no matter how many times you try to get the last word in.

[whottt]

LMAO @ Part A. Especially considering you're one of the biggest Robert Horry fans on the board. Horry was part of two much more bitter rivals than Dallas ever has been, and Finley never smacked David Robinson in the nuts after losing a playoff game either.

B. Yeah, he whined about Bowen once in 05, and gave him an elbow into the stands. So what?

C. Yeah, real cancer

And if Finley had done as much to us as Robert Horry had...I'd definitely be a Finley fan. With Horry it was a case of screaming mercy and not wanting to see him on an opposing team ever again, if only for his Duncan D...not even close to that with Finley...get serious.

I finally conceded it was better to have Robert Horry with you than against you..


I hated Robert Horry until I saw the Lakers might lose him. Never felt that way about Finley. And I don't like Bowen whiners...

Do you like Ray Allen's whining?


Well Finley did it too...tried to get Bruce in trouble too.


Say what you want about Brent but he got his ass kicked by Bruce worse than any of those guys and never whined once about it...he just shut up and played.

I bolded the parts that contradict your stupid argument to make it easier for you.

It had nothing to do with saving $51.8 million in payments to the league for a non-max guy on the tail end of a max contract?

So basically, you're full of ing whottt, no matter how many times you try to get the last word in.

I bet if I search real hard I can find all of you mofos calling Cuban out for being stupid about his payroll...it wasn't his major concern....until he realized he had a team that couldn't win a le.

[baseline bum]

Was Nash a cancer too? Is that why Cuban didn't give him $60 million?

[duncan228]

An off topic but weird fact.
baseline bum and whottt joined SpursTalk on the same day.
(This debate got me curious so I looked.)

[whottt]

An off topic but weird fact.
baseline bum and whottt joined SpursTalk on the same day.
(This debate got me curious so I looked.)

Not true...base was around years before I was...and he was probably at FullSportPress(what this site was called before ST) before me...

If we have the same day he definitely got jobbed...because timvp and kori jobbed me on heavily on my join date from EZ board.

base was the last remaining guy that was fun to argue with at SR when I came to FullSportPress(even though I'm pretty sure he thought I was a complete idiot).....

[whottt]

Was Nash a cancer too? Is that why Cuban didn't give him $60 million?

Nah...but I think it was a clear case of them thinking Nash wasn't good enough to win a le with, too soft, not enough d...and was probably going to start breaking down...I mean do you blame the Mavs for not thinking he was going to pull off back to back MVP's in his mid 30's? I don't...

If they'd won a le Nash and Finley would both still be there IMO.


Cuban wasn't willing to pay that tax for a team that wasn't producing wins...especially when he was getting beaten by a fiscally responsible team. But he was and is a free spender at heart...it was Finley he gave up on.

[duncan228]

Not true...base was around years before I was...and he was probably at FullSportPress(what this site was called before ST) before me...

If we have the same day he definitely got jobbed...because timvp and kori jobbed me on heavily on my join date from EZ board.

base was the last remaining guy that was fun to argue with at SR when I came to FullSportPress(even though I'm pretty sure he thought I was a complete idiot).....

I believe you, the history before ST I've learned, not lived.

For what it's worth you both have the same join date here.