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most mavs fans don't have a problem with the trade right now. at least the ones in this thread. our issue is with the terrible coaching.
Mono,
Just because your reading comprehension is lacking does not mean you can't understand the game.
Harris was a better fit for the Mavs overall than Kidd.
Maybe not 3 years ago, but today...
IMHO, you do not break up a team that won 67 games and was basically a couple of made free throws from going up 3-0 the year before....
Sorry, this trade failed, what is the Mavs record again since the trade?
DD
most mavs fans don't have a problem with the trade right now. at least the ones in this thread. our issue is with the terrible coaching.
Gotta get rid of the control freak but do you really think Cuban will pull the trigger?
Adam,
Did Avery assemble the Mavs roster or did Cuban/Nelson do it?
Why is it Avery's fault if he is coaching pieces that don't quite fit anymore?
DD
You didn't answer my question. I want some "intelligent discussion" here. Answer the question.
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Edit: this originally said Kidd for Kidd.. guess he changed it.
Really? The Mavs fans are ok with the trade and the free fall in the standings?
What place were the Mavs in when they made the trade? What was their record against good teams?
Unreal that you guys are ok with that trade that everyone else in the NBA can see made you a lot weaker....
WOW !!!
Oh well, it was good for my team.
DD
Sorry, you don't get to dictate discussion. I am still waiting on you to explain how the Kidd trade was good for the Mavs.
DD
I'll just ask you this, then - because I'm going to love to see your answer...
If you were building a team today and could pick from either Jason Kidd or Devin Harris, which would you take?
I've explained that already. Many times over. "Just because your reading comprehension is lacking does not mean you can't understand the game."
And still no "intelligent discussion" about how someone could write something as blatantly inaccurate as this -
like someone said, Cuban took some key pieces from Avery and replaced with pieces that don't fit his system.
Avery was on board with the trade.
Avery wasn't that good but he did have Del Harris. Now you are seeing the results of not having Harris anymore behind Avery. He doesn't know how to run the team. Put people in positions of succeeding. He micromanages every aspect. I was talking to a friend of mine two years ago and we both came to the conclusion that once Del Harris left the Mavericks, that Avery would be exposed. Now it's coming true sorry to say.
at this thread.
May be a "bad" trade with the current results, but anyone who thinks the Mavs with Harris was going anywhere is a fool. 67 wins means , they didn't get destroyed by a "bad matchup," Baron Davis did exactly what Wade did to them, Nellie and Riley had their way with Avery, GS and Miami forced the Mav's already stagnant ISO to become even more stagnant. By the end of the two series, everyone knew how to beat the Mavs. They were already free-falling after GS, November regular season standings don't mean .
I wouldn't be surprised if Avery resigned. He hates Cuban's guts.
actually, Avery was the one who from the day he started coaching, wanted Jason Kidd.
"wanted Jason Kidd"
that is possible.
"wanted Jason Kidd in exchange for Diop and Harris"
I don't think so.
I could swear I heard that Avery was not on board with this trade initially.
If anything, it will be one of those "I've enjoyed my time here, need to step back, time with my family, looking to move on, thanks to Mark for everything, etc." mutual buyout type of thing where everyone acts all sad-happy to go, but inside they can't wait to get the out the door.
There was some speculation about that since Avery said all year "we like our team" but it turns out that he was just towing the company line and that, to his credit, he saw the writing on the wall and wanted a roster shakeup after the GS series. Unfortunately he hasn't gone about this season the right way and that's made things a lot worse.
If we don't beat Denver tonight, our season is over. Then I can start beating my meat to Kevin Love, metaphorically speaking of course.
Jason Kidd is player just like Rafer Alston. He is "good" because some type of dumb coach believe this is "true" point guard. Some stubborn NBA coach like only such players. These player can not shoot. Player like these struggle shoot 40% FG and 34% 3 point and they WIDE OPEN shot almost every shot they take!
But these player good defense good ball handler good passer good driver player like Kidd very good rebounder very good passer so they "real" point guard. But this because many re coach in NBA like Jeff Van Gundy, Lawrence Frank and all these type that believe ball does not have to actual go in hoop to win game.
Most high school player can shoot ball better than these "good" point guard. In basketball game player must be able shoot or score ball if play point guard. This same as Spanoulis get bench all year by Van Gundy for try explain him it stupid thing coach instruct him stand at 3 point line and shoot ball and do nothing else if play point guard just dribble ball up court pass to T-Mac then stand at 3 point line.
Kidd have been play for same kind of re coach. Avery Johnson is same type of re coach and Cuban is re owner. Nash is is supposed not as good as Kidd because "defense" but Nash know how to actual make play score OR assist same as Spanoulis but these re coach believe only "real" point guard can make assist and shoot wide open 3 pointer
IDIOTS why they think player like Kidd or Alston is always left open by defense? These coach call this "good shot". Harris is player than can penetrate and get assist or score same way he "not as good as Kidd"
NBA coach, managers, fans have many strange way of rate what "good" player mean.
^ Can somebody put that into babelfish for me? Apparently all I can make out is that Rafer Alston is just as good as Jason Kidd.
Is V-Span really better than Jason Kidd?
yea, by the second sentence, I was already lost in that pile of nonsense.
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