Calling Out The Refs...

[Jon1798]

there are many ways the refs dictate the game that does not show up on stat sheet at all.

out of bounds, at what time those calls are made in the game, to make them come back from a 6-8 point lead, or to extend a 2 pt lead.

they show up when they have to. Double Techs, delay on spurs bench, touch fouls suddendly called, etc.

they do a great job to keep the PF equal in every game to cover themselves but if you dont think they dont dictate a pace or a winner if they want to, you are not understanding the history of this league refs. it happens

Still avoiding answering any real questions huh?

[Cry Havoc]

Still avoiding answering any real questions huh?

20 and 1.

20 and 1. Keep up the sanctimonious bull .

The Spurs are likely going to get ALL the calls tonight. And then you're going to be ing and whining (to yourself) about how it's only biased for the Spurs because they're the champs.

Oh, don't get me wrong, you'll probably post that the Spurs outplayed the Hornets in Game 6. On the surface, you might very well appear to be the cool, reserved, quietly confident Hornets fan.

But deep down, you'll know that short of playing a perfect game, the Spurs were meant to push this to 7. And you'll be okay with it, because Game 7 is in your house, with your HCA in full effect.

And then, if Game 7 goes to the Spurs somehow, you will just lose it. That, or we will never see you again.

I know this because it's happened to (nearly) every team the Spurs have beaten in the playoffs. Newbies show up, talk , get beat, and then leave. Or they stay and troll as much as possible.

And if the Hornets win Game 7? Well, I guess we'll just attribute that 26-1 in favor of the Home Team is just proof that HCA matters and the league doesn't care how much money they make off of the most-hyped playoffs in a decade -- they just got really, really lucky.

to you.

[spurscenter]

LAS VEGAS - Retired NBA star Charles Barkley will face criminal charges if he doesn't repay a $400,000 gambling debt to a Las Vegas casino, a prosecutor said Thursday.
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"We're in the process of sending Mr. Barkley notice that we're considering filing a criminal complaint," Clark County District Attorney David Roger said. "He'll have an opportunity like anybody else to make res ution to the hotel."

The posh Wynn Las Vegas casino alleges in a civil complaint filed Wednesday in Nevada state court that Barkley failed to repay four $100,000 casino markers, or loans, he received last Oct. 18 and 19.

"To date, and despite repeated demands, Barkley has refused to repay the $400,000," the complaint said.

Barkley is a basketball analyst for Turner Network Television who has made no secret of his gambling over the years.

His agent in New York did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment, and a TNT spokeswoman in Atlanta declined comment.

Wynn Las Vegas spokeswoman Dorothy Land also declined comment, citing ongoing litigation.

Barkley, 45, played 16 seasons for the Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets. He was named MVP in 1993 and was an 11-time NBA All-Star. Barkley also played on the USA Olympic "Dream Team" in 1992 and 1996.

Barkley estimated during a May 2006 interview with ESPN that he'd gambled away about $10 million over the years.

"Do I have a gambling problem? Yeah, I do have a gambling problem," Barkley said. "But I don't consider it a problem because I can afford to gamble."

He said he never bet on basketball, and only bet in casinos. He called it a bad habit that he intended to continue.

[Nolazach]

I will agree that the refs blow the whistle way too much, but will not gto so far as to say they cost the game.

[spurscenter]

with all the ref threads, we should just pin this and discuss the refs, here.

any series.

Sal was on a mission in the first half , with parker and defensive 3, and

but the key was that the spurs were making their shots and did not allow the refs to get in as much .

gotta hit shots to fight the bull .

[ecksodia]

I dunno why West was complaining about those calls. That reach in was obvious, and those offensive fouls were legit.. Of course I think Duncan did a little selling, but still, it was clear that his feet was set when he took the contact.

[Obstructed_View]

You can clearly see that West extended his arm. All those calls were pretty easy. I think he was in more pain than he was letting on, and was just frustrated. Horry didn't seem to hit him all that hard. I suppose it's possible that he just stayed down so he didn't have to stay for the rest of the game.

[zepn]

LAS VEGAS - Retired NBA star Charles Barkley will face criminal charges if he doesn't repay a $400,000 gambling debt to a Las Vegas casino, a prosecutor said Thursday.

Interesting. I thought any past-due debt (not owed to the IRS) was a civil matter in the U.S. (?)

[ambchang]

At this point, it would be naive for people to think that the referees did not have any effect on the games, the games had these huge swings between home and road teams is exactly because of the way the games were called.

Paul would not have been called for the charge against Bowen if he was in NO (his fourth), his layup charge would have been an and-1 in NO, Duncan would not have gotten the calls he gotten last night if it was NO, Duncan was still throwing up jumpshots and fadeaways last night, yet he got 8 FTAs vs. 14 shots in Game 5, vs. 1 FTA on 18 shots last night. The whole offense of the Spurs revolves around Duncan, and if he is not allowed to to his job down low, the offense stagnate.

Props to Chris Paul for keeping his composure and continue to play well after those charges, and this is what is needed, but the Spurs were on such a roll by then that there is no stopping them. The same has happened in NO in favour of the Hornets.

The point is, the home team doesn't magically becomes more aggressive, they were allowed to do things that the other teams aren't, and that makes all the difference in the world.

[spurscenter]

Feds: Donaghy bet on about 14 games he worked in 2006-07


NEW YORK (AP)—Former NBA referee Tim Donaghy bet on about 14 games he officiated in the 2006-07 season, Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Goldberg said in a letter filed Friday in Brooklyn Federal Court.

“In the Spring of 2003, Donaghy provided picks for games he refereed on only 2-3 occasions,” Goldberg wrote. “Over the next three full seasons (2003-2004, 2004-2005, and 2005-2006), however, Donaghy bet on numerous games that he worked.

“The government’s investigation revealed that Donaghy provided picks for anywhere from 30 to 40 such games for each of those three seasons. During the 2006-2007 season (the time period charged in the information), Donaghy bet on approximately 30 games, including about 14 games that he refereed.”

Donaghy pleaded guilty last year to charges he conspired to engage in wire fraud and transmitted betting information through interstate commerce. The referee said he made NBA bets for four years, even wagering on games he worked. He also admitted recommending bets to high-stakes gamblers and collecting $5,000 if his picks hit.




NEW YORK (TICKER) —Federal prosecutors claim former NBA referee Tim Donaghy bet on more than 100 games that he worked, the New York Daily News reported Saturday.

Donaghy, 41, was fired by the NBA after pleading guilty last year to charges of wire fraud and transmitting betting information across state lines, a violation of federal law.

In a court filing, prosecutors detailed Donaghy’s betting activity that began in 2003 and continued for three seasons.

“The government’s investigation revealed that Donaghy provided picks for anywhere from 30 to 40 games for each of those three seasons,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Goldberg said in a letter filed Friday in Brooklyn Federal Court.

Donaghy is not accused of fixing games, but he is charged with passing along inside information to two gamblers. The information allegedly includes tips on which officiating crews worked particular games and how they interacted with players.

Thomas Martino, one of Donaghy’s gambling partners who pleaded guilty last month to participating in the scheme, said Donaghy received $5,000 for each correct pick.

Donaghy will be sentenced July 14 by Brooklyn Federal Judge Carol Amon and is facing a maximum of 20 years in prison.

According to the Daily News, however, he likely will receive a far more lenient sentence for cooperating with the government during its investigation.

Donaghy is scheduled to be sentenced May 22. By law, he faces up to 25 years in prison, though the term could be much lower under sentencing guidelines.

[spurscenter]

just to throw the history of the refs in the spurs run for the ring

[Allanon]

Suns thread.

[spurscenter]

yea, it was meant for a thread on the refs for the entire playoffs but never got stick to the front page.

now there are bunch of threads on refs after every loss. lol

[spurscenter]

BOSTON gets 49 FT vs DET to keep them close

then this crap from Joey Crawford


The fix has been on since attendence is down, ratings and the ref scandal.

big markets, big $, refs $100,000 year

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