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    Atlanta will match a MLE deal for Childress very quickly & be very happy about it...So if we did offer him the MLE, Atlanta would have alot of time to think about it, meanwhile our hands are tied while other FA's sign with new teams, then Atlanta decides to keep him & we are stuck without anything....doesn't sound like too good a plan IMO.

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    Last year, Smith averaged 12.3 ppg in 19.2 mpg for a high scoring, no defense playing Denver team.
    In 06-07, Brent Barry averaged 8.5 ppg in 21.7 mpg for a lower scoring, defense oriented team. He also did this while taking considerably fewer shots, as his FG%, 3PT%, and FT% were all higher than Smith's.
    There's a lot of talk about BB IQ, but don't you think recognizing the importance of playing defense should be pretty high up there when accessing IQ? Pietrus & Azubuike both pride themselves on playing D. Smith doesn't. To me, that's low IQ.

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    1) Where have you read that Azubuike is high on their priority list?

    2) The best time to offer a contract to Azubuike is 12:01 because the Warriors will have to negotiate with Ellis and Biedrins and may not be able to match right away. Ellis and Biedrins will both be looking for deals near 50 million over 5 years. If their number exceeds 50, the Warriors will have to let Azubuike walk. If you want Azubuike, you get him to ink right off and possibly force the Warriors into a situation where they have to let him go for fear of losing Ellis or Biedrins.

    3) I'm starting to wonder if we haven't looked past the Spurs #1 free agent option, Josh Childress. Artest, Smith, Pietrus, Azubuike and Siskauskas dominate our discussions, but why wouldn't the Spurs offer Childress the full MLE just after midnight? If that doesn't work, there are still servicable fall back options available, possibly including Pietrus and Azubuike.

    Childress might be their guy.

    1) Ive read it in a couple diffrent places. Some of the area papers have basically been saying that the RFAs are the priority.

    "Warriors guard Kelenna Azubuike has joined the pool of restricted free agents, along with teammates Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins. Azubuike was set to make $797,581 next season, which is like minimum wage in the NBA. The Warriors are expected to re-sign all three of their restricted free agents, though nothing is guaranteed. Source: Contra Costa Times"

    2) Im not sure if that would work. If they plan is to sign all three RFAs they will just match the offer.

    3) I agree with you on Josh Childress. I would take him over Pietrus any day of the week. His availability is hard to read however. Some people think he is going to get big money while others are saying he will be a bargain. I guess the market will end up setting his price.

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    Where is this rich market on Azubuike? Who else wants him? I'm not sure he will cost anymore 2.5 or 3 million and that no more than a couple of teams will consider extending him an offer.

    Smith is an MLE guy, but not Azubuike.
    It's going to take an MLE offer to get him, and with Baron opting out today I'm not even sure that will do the trick.

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    Then take Pietrus and Barnes from them.

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    Pietrus will be a Spur next year...Book it.

    I think Pop has already spoken with this kid and likes what he sees. Sure hes not the sharpest tool in the shed but all he needs to do is defend well and use his athletecism to his advantage when putting the ball in the hole.

    i like this kid. hes a nice guy, no problems, and he looks like he is easily coachable and teachable.

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    Pietrus will be a Spur next year...Book it.

    I think Pop has already spoken with this kid and likes what he sees. Sure hes not the sharpest tool in the shed but all he needs to do is defend well and use his athletecism to his advantage when putting the ball in the hole.

    i like this kid. hes a nice guy, no problems, and he looks like he is easily coachable and teachable.
    He has the basketball IQ of a rock.

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    He has the basketball IQ of a rock.
    I agree he's not the smartest basketball player around but does he really have the lowest BBIQ of all the NBA?

    Do you mean Elson or KBrown level of dumbness?

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    He has the basketball IQ of a rock.

    exaggerate much?

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    I agree he's not the smartest basketball player around but does he really have the lowest BBIQ of all the NBA?

    Do you mean Elson or KBrown level of dumbness?
    Dumber.

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    I stand by what I said. And no, it's not exaggeration. I don't think you'll find a lower bball IQ player in the NBA.

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    Pietrus isn't that bad and the rest of his game would fit in well in SA. I'd rather the Spurs lock up him now than being burned by an offer sheet circle jerk with one of these pipe dreams and ending up with a re-signed Michael Finley.

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    Pietrus should be last on the list behind Childress, Smith, and others.

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    Pietrus should be last on the list behind Childress, Smith, and others.

    behind childress , smith or magette maybe azabuike ok but i still prefer him over delfino , evans , ariza and all the other sg/sf players

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    Pietrus isn't that bad and the rest of his game would fit in well in SA. I'd rather the Spurs lock up him now than being burned by an offer sheet circle jerk with one of these pipe dreams and ending up with a re-signed Michael Finley.
    I tend to agree.

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    Pietrus isn't that bad and the rest of his game would fit in well in SA. I'd rather the Spurs lock up him now than being burned by an offer sheet circle jerk with one of these pipe dreams and ending up with a re-signed Michael Finley.
    Agreed. Pietrus is not only a compatiable fit on-the-court, but he's also an easier "get" than a RFA like Smith.

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    Count me in for Pietrus, the getting burned by an RFA offer is the best reason.

    Pietrus isn't great, and he's already reached his ceiling.

    But he should realistically be very gettable. And much better for the Spurs to sign Pietrus than get stuck with Finley or Juan Dixon or Mo Evans or Yahkouba Diawara.

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    Agreed. Pietrus is not only a compatiable fit on-the-court, but he's also an easier "get" than a RFA like Smith.
    offcourse , he will make less money than smith and he isn't a rfa
    in a good situation and with a good coach i don't think pietrus will be that bad

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    I stand by what I said. And no, it's not exaggeration. I don't think you'll find a lower bball IQ player in the NBA.
    Thanx for your insight and detailed analysis.

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    Pietrus will be in a Spurs uni since we won't be able to land JR or any of the other higher tier FA out there.... I would be cool with Pietrus; not sure if it would take the full MLE though.

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    Pietrus will be in a Spurs uni since we won't be able to land JR or any of the other higher tier FA out there.... I would be cool with Pietrus; not sure if it would take the full MLE though.
    IMHO after last year free agency debacle where nobody ever made him an offer he's now looking for security with a multiyear guaranteed deal more than a front loaded offer for a shorter period.

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    IMHO after last year free agency debacle where nobody ever made him an offer he's now looking for security with a multiyear guaranteed deal more than a front loaded offer for a shorter period.
    I think that may be a safe assumption. Of course, if he really thinks San Antonio is a place that he can remake himself he might also be willing to consider a shorter contract with hopes of signing a more lucrative one once SA has employed him more productively.

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    Then take Pietrus and Barnes from them.

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    Then take Pietrus and Barnes from them.
    Yeah, thats what I have been saying. Both are UFA so you dont have to worry about their team matching the offer. The Spurs have also shown interest in both in the past and it is rumored the Warriors are not planning on resigning either one.

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    I stand by what I said. And no, it's not exaggeration. I don't think you'll find a lower bball IQ player in the NBA.
    What do you base this harsh judgment on?
    Do you have fact proving he is that dumb?
    Obviously he is not a high bball IQ player but it's a stretch to say he is the dumbest one.

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