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    The affects of Duncan's rapid decline are aldridge. Timmy needed to continue feeding on Splitter, Diaw, and Parker style feeds for the high post mid ranger or random cut. Lame just gets the ball on pick and pop or dirky post up. People think Timmy dead, the spurs just screwed up his game with a lame ass plug in.
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    Spurs would have been somewhere between 5-8th place in the west if they didn't sign him along with being eliminated in the first round.
    Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round.

    Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.

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    Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round.

    Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.
    Brilliant

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    Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round.

    Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.
    Honestly being a 5-8 seed is really bad it means you are not a contender and you are even far away from being an elite team. Historically 2-3 seed matchup tends to be very compe ive. It's not like the Spurs were the 1 seed and got taken out by a 4th seed. In any other year Spurs-OKC would have been the WCF match up but due to the Warriors historical season it ended up as a second round match up. Duncan's decline this year was really that bad I think people ignore that. Once he had that knee injury he was never the same again. Do you honestly believe the Spurs would be a top 5 team in the west playing a broke Duncan with Rolo for a full season? Ultimately Duncan's rapid decline wasn't planned for if they had Duncan even from last year's playoffs they beat the Thunder.

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    Was still a bad take got. Where are we if we don't get Aldridge in the Summer? Not just now, even long term? Are we better off than we are now? No. We are most likely in the lottery next year or 7/8 seed with no LMA. Alot of good that would do us.

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    Honestly being a 5-8 seed is really bad it means you are not a contender and you are even far away from being an elite team. Historically 2-3 seed matchup tends to be very compe ive. It's not like the Spurs were the 1 seed and got taken out by a 4th seed. In any other year Spurs-OKC would have been the WCF match up but due to the Warriors historical season it ended up as a second round match up. Duncan's decline this year was really that bad I think people ignore that. Once he had that knee injury he was never the same again. Do you honestly believe the Spurs would be a top 5 team in the west playing a broke Duncan with Rolo for a full season? Ultimately Duncan's rapid decline wasn't planned for if they had Duncan even from last year's playoffs they beat the Thunder.
    To answer your question, "No." But I think we would be in a better position going forward. I think we may well be a 5-8 seed next season. So, I would have rather been there this season with the prospect of moving up next season rather than moving down - which is how I see things.

    I admit that I expected another season or possibly even two from Duncan before this season began. His wheels falling off has been precipitous and unexpected.

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    To answer your question, "No." But I think we would be in a better position going forward. I think we may well be a 5-8 seed next season. So, I would have rather been there this season with the prospect of moving up next season rather than moving down - which is how I see things.

    I admit that I expected another season or possibly even two from Duncan before this season began. His wheels falling off has been precipitous and unexpected.
    I think at worst next year the Spurs will be a 4th seed. With the way the West is currently set up they are only 3 teams that can finish with better records than the spurs next year and they are the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder. Realistically they have a chance to be as high as second again and an outside chance at 1st if the Warriors start to suffer fatigue from their deep playoff runs, loss of depth through FA, injuries. Spurs just need to do some tweaking to the roster and find some solid role players.

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    I think at worst next year the Spurs will be a 4th seed. With the way the West is currently set up they are only 3 teams that can finish with better records than the spurs next year and they are the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder. Realistically they have a chance to be as high as second again and an outside chance at 1st if the Warriors start to suffer fatigue from their deep playoff runs, loss of depth through FA, injuries. Spurs just need to do some tweaking to the roster and find some solid role players.
    You and I just see the team very differently. I think we need much more than a roster-tweaking. I believe we are facing a true re-build in order to remain play-off compe ive - never mind competing for the LOB. Plus I think some teams are in a better position to improve.

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    Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round.

    Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.
    had to sign him tbh. this opened the door for sa being a small market that can lure big names. the idea behind the signing is better than who spurs signed

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    had to sign him tbh. this opened the door for sa being a small market that can lure big names. the idea behind the signing is better than who spurs signed
    I hope the theory gets borne out in practice. But that's all it is - a theory - until another significant FA comes here. Frankly, with the team in decline and no longer able to offer Tim and Manu to play along side them, I am not sure SA is an attractive FA destination. This coming off-season we don't need one great FA, but a couple or three good ones. I think we will have a bunch of holes to fill.

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    You and I just see the team very differently. I think we need much more than a roster-tweaking. I believe we are facing a true re-build in order to remain play-off compe ive - never mind competing for the LOB. Plus I think some teams are in a better position to improve.
    I feel the Spurs are entering a rebuild mode similar to 2001 when they got swept by the Lakers. This rebuild will probably take 2-3 years to complete but with Kawhi,LMA they are still capable of being a top 4 team in the West. Can you name any other teams besides the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder that could be better than them next year?The 5-8 seeds in the West were crap this year I don't see any of those teams making a great leap into the top 4 next year baring some great off-season moves. The t-wolves are probably 2 years away from being an elite team.

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    Nope...Spurs are quasi-rebuilding and it doesn't help that fellow UT alum Kevin Durant now knows he's on a better team than Aldridge. I see empty stats and 55-60 win seasons in the Spurs future, but no rangs

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    Spurs fans better get use to Aldridge stinking it up in the playoffs every year. He's the Tony Parker version of this new core.

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    Spurs fans better get use to Aldridge stinking it up in the playoffs every year. He's the Tony Parker version of this new core.
    sorry bro i already tagged kawhi as the prime Parker playoffs successor....dazzles in the reg season, but too predictable and easy to shut down.

    LMA shut down by pinky injury and ADams and Ibake

    Kawhi.,...roberdson? i mean who?

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    I feel the Spurs are entering a rebuild mode similar to 2001 when they got swept by the Lakers. This rebuild will probably take 2-3 years to complete but with Kawhi,LMA they are still capable of being a top 4 team in the West. Can you name any other teams besides the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder that could be better than them next year?The 5-8 seeds in the West were crap this year I don't see any of those teams making a great leap into the top 4 next year baring some great off-season moves. The t-wolves are probably 2 years away from being an elite team.
    Who cares outside of the warriors none of those teams have a chance at beating them. You are pretty much playing for 2nd place in the west for the next 5 years

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    I feel the Spurs are entering a rebuild mode similar to 2001 when they got swept by the Lakers. This rebuild will probably take 2-3 years to complete but with Kawhi,LMA they are still capable of being a top 4 team in the West. Can you name any other teams besides the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder that could be better than them next year?The 5-8 seeds in the West were crap this year I don't see any of those teams making a great leap into the top 4 next year baring some great off-season moves. The t-wolves are probably 2 years away from being an elite team.
    I really respect what Portland accomplished this season, and I don't know what to exp ct from them going forward. Utah has some nice players, and I don't know what they might accomplish if all their guys stay d reasonably healthy. With Cuban running the show, the Mavs are capable of great off-season moves. In fact that is part of my concern for the Spurs - historically we seem less willing/capable of making great off-season moves than many teams.

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    Who cares outside of the warriors none of those teams have a chance at beating them. You are pretty much playing for 2nd place in the west for the next 5 years
    There is a high chance the spurs may never win another le again and I'm fine with that. I felt after winning 5 anything else afterwards was gravy. However I do find watching a 50 plus win team more exciting versus the alternative of watching a team like the sixers,nets that win around 10-20 games. If the Warriors win this year they probably 3 peat and burn out just like every other team that has 3 peated in recent history. Are you really that stupid to believe the Warriors are going to go on Bill Russel Celtic's type of run ?

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    I really respect what Portland accomplished this season, and I don't know what to exp ct from them going forward. Utah has some nice players, and I don't know what they might accomplish if all their guys stay d reasonably healthy. With Cuban running the show, the Mavs are capable of great off-season moves. In fact that is part of my concern for the Spurs - historically we seem less willing/capable of making great off-season moves than many teams.
    Utah has potential to be a playoff team next year but I doubt they crack the top 4 of the West. Usually when a team doesn't go the playoffs it's rare the following year they instantaneously become a top 4 team. That only happens if that team drafts a superstar in the mold of Duncan,Shaq, or signs one like that during FA. I feel the Rockets and Grizzlies won't be in the playoffs next year. That will definitely open up 2 more slots for some new teams to rise. The Mavs are definitely a question mark. They could either miss the playoffs or make it again depending on the off-season moves they make.

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    They would have been smoked in the WCF b/c the bench was proven to be trash so I'm glad they got upset in the 2nd rd since this will put the spotlight on the FO to make moves instead of sticking w/ the old guard for one more season.
    Agree with this very much. This unexpected result does put pressure on the FO.

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    We probably wouldn't have done near as well without LMA. We won 73 games this season. Not horrible. There likely shouldn't have been a 6th game (at least not a close out game) and we'd still be lacing them up.

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    Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round.

    Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.
    Both LMA and Kawhi are Iso scorers. Do you remember Kawhi posting up last season?/it was terrible for the offense. He has improved and added drives and become more versatile adding hook shots etc. He was stumped initially by double teams, etc. It took him a season to feel more comfortable etc. He's still learning but he does like the midrange post up a lot. I think getting LMA was the result of needing a second scorer bc Tony was showing declines even last season. So we needed both another scorer and a big. He fit the bill and you kind of get the best you can get who wants you too. We need an elite guard. Tony isn't one anymore and the decline of Manu can no longer cover that up.

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    Still trying to be the popular kid on the block while you get on.

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    Lame is a player like Elton Brand or Baron Davis. He might be a name on the marquee, and if it's your marquee... you're screwed. The spurs would have been better off with some young guy who's restricted offer wouldn't be matched. But the spurs hate youth. The spurs are the team that renounced "Josephs."
    It's the NBA; unless your best player is in the top three-five in the league, it's almost impossible to win a championship. Leonard is right around that territory, but he's not a conventional player of that caliber.

    It was either continue trying to be something like a top five team, hope everything falls into place one year and win one more or it was sink into NBA purgatory. I'd rather the former. Though highly unlikely they win another one, depending on what moves they make in the next 1-2 years, it's not a totally hopeless situation the likes of the current Raptors or Hawks or recent Bulls, Grizzlies and Pacers.

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    Aldridge is very much worth it for the length of his contract, he gives you scoring on the post and size.. Could he rebound better? Sure, could he play better defense? Yeah. but that's not what we got him for. Spurs were tired of getting the ball on the offensive end and everyone ignoring Tiago because he couldn't score 3 feet in front of the basket consistently. Remember he would have a clear path to the rim to score and he would pump fake his way into a terrible shot?

    The truth is we are not going to get another Tim Duncan, thats a once in a generation type of player and we weren't after a defensive big who was going to get us rebounds and fly above the rim for blocks. The Spurs knew they were going to need offense and they were not going to get it from Parker or Manu or Tim.. It's Kawhi and Aldridge until the Spurs move on Parker and get an athletic PG that can score and has length to defend.

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    Both LMA and Kawhi are Iso scorers. Do you remember Kawhi posting up last season?/it was terrible for the offense. He has improved and added drives and become more versatile adding hook shots etc. He was stumped initially by double teams, etc. It took him a season to feel more comfortable etc. He's still learning but he does like the midrange post up a lot. I think getting LMA was the result of needing a second scorer bc Tony was showing declines even last season. So we needed both another scorer and a big. He fit the bill and you kind of get the best you can get who wants you too. We need an elite guard. Tony isn't one anymore and the decline of Manu can no longer cover that up.
    Kawhi is better when he is NOT an iso scorer. I love when he is involved in the offensive flow and ends up with a variety of 3-point shots, midranges and dunks. Before we became so totally committed to iso-ball that was the Kawhi that impressed me.

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