And yes, I sound like the biggest UFC/Dana nut hugger right there ^^^^^^^^^
And I will defend each of my points and not get butt hurt if someone calls me out harshly.
WARNING...BIG RANT COMINGIt is hard to be a o fan these days. I want to see him fight, but he can't beat anyone legit anymore. Sucks for me anyway.
I don't like o much...but I am not a hater either. I would like him more if he won more or at least fought more. I'm pretty big on activity but I don't think I ask for too much...2 or 3 legit fights a year that match up to your supposed level of talent. Fight and try to win at least 1 out of 2 and I will love ya...like Sam Stout and Clay Guida. Which is why I am so hard on Fedor and I feel justified (just my opinion of course.)
I kind of look at o like Dana. He's just doing his job by running his mouth and stirring sh*t up. It's worked out brilliantly for both of them.
o - Its made him a fortune his entire career even well after he stopped winning fights which are either due to declining skills or a rumored ruined back. If he could just somehow get a le again he would be MMA immortal in the eyes of fans even if he lost it after 1 fight.
(Now before I get blasted with my thoughts on Dana read the whole thing)
Dana - What he has done is brilliant Public Relations wise. He has effectively funneled nearly all criticism of the UFC, eTV and its fighters directly at him. Nearly every time something goes wrong, no matter what it is, people blame Dana and not the above.
Boring fight? Dana's fault, not the fighters...its his bad match making even though that's Joe Silva's job.
Too many commercials? Dana's fault, not e.
TUF has a boring season? Dana's fault, not e, the fighters and its editing.
Fighters don't get paid enough? Dana's fault, not the budget the Fer ta's have given him.
Etc..... and this list could grow very long...
Now I am not saying he doesn't screw things up and people don't sometimes blame where blame is properly due but making the majority of criticism be directed at him is 100% intentional and by design. And people certainly take the bait at every chance. If you see old interviews with him he isn't like he is today...not near as bad anyway. And recently he has cooled off a bit with his mouth. He needs to be the anti David Stern, Paul Tagliabue etc...the stuffy suited CEO who speaks generically.It wouldn't work if Lorenzo Fer ta was the main guy doing interviews since he is EXACTLY like Stern and Tagliablue.
You just have to ignore Dana and see the results not his quotes. Like Chuck said in his book, "Part of Dana's job is to be a carnival barker"
*steps off soapbox*
Last edited by Evan; 08-24-2008 at 12:28 AM.
And yes, I sound like the biggest UFC/Dana nut hugger right there ^^^^^^^^^
And I will defend each of my points and not get butt hurt if someone calls me out harshly.
hahahaaa....aw man...too funny
Interesting quote below.
He's 32...still has at least another 6 years of prime fighting left if he has taken care of himself.
He's 12-4 but a bad 12-4 as he lost his last 3.
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Gan-McGee-273
^^^^^I had to look him up...I had heard the name but it didn't ring a bell as to exactly who it was. If you have seem some high light shows on e you have seem glimpses of him.
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Former UFC heavyweight contender Gan McGee (or, more specifically, his new promoter) just released his "Top 10 Heavyweight Hit List" via email blast. Let it never be said that "The Giant" doesn't set his sights (unreasonably) high.
10. Johnathan Ivey: "Right off the bat, Ivey is the first man I’ll face in my comeback, and Ivey’s been running his mouth for far too long about how I’m gonna wish I stayed retired. Well, after we’re done fighting, he’ll REALLY wish I stayed retired! Got that, Ivey? I can’t tell you how good it’ll feel to bash that guy right in his damn face. I want him. Now."
9. Tim Sylvia: "Me and Tim have some unfinished business. Nothing against him personally – he’s a nice guy and all – but he flat-out cheated in our fight. Let’s see how he does against me straight-up, with no pharmaceutical enhancements. Let’s find out who the better man really is. I’m ready whenever you are, Tim."
8. Josh Barnett: "For four straight years, I went undefeated – stopping every single opponent in the first round, with just one exception. And that exception was Josh Barnett. We fought in the first-ever Super Heavyweight bout in UFC history, and I rocked him hard in round one. I nearly put him away. But he caught me in round two, winning by TKO due to strikes at 4:34. Josh is a great fighter, and I’d love to rumble with him one more time… ‘cause it sure would feel good to smash him around the cage again!"
7. Kimbo Slice: "I think Kimbo is bad for MMA. Period. And I’m the right man to remove him from the sport for good. Next."
6. Brock Lesnar: "Brock’s a big strong guy and he’d face an interesting challenge for me. He’s got plenty of size and power – and so do I. He has a stellar amateur wrestling background – and I was trained in college by the legendary Dan Gable. It would be a great test for both of us."
5. Cheick Kongo: "This would be an excellent matchup because of our styles. I respect Kongo, and think he’d be the ideal gateway fighter for me to break back into the top-tier of the division."
4. Randy Couture: "I’ve looked up to Randy for many, many years. I met him for the first time when I was just a kid at a wrestling camp. He’s a real good guy. And y’know, because of our age difference and relationship, fighting Randy would be kind of like fighting my Dad… no offense, Randy! But I’d love to do it."
3. Heath Hering: "I faced Herring in Osaka, Japan; it was my first fight since all that controversy went down at UFC 44 with Sylvia, and I took the fight on short notice, losing a split decision. No excuses, though: Herring won, and he’s an exciting, world class fighter. I really hope I get an opportunity to avenge that loss, ‘cause it still bugs me."
2. Fedor Emelianenko: "Why do I want to fight Fedor so badly? Because he’s currently the best heavyweight in the world – and if you don’t want to face the best, you have no business in MMA. Personally, I think this would be a uva matchup – the kind of fight that would have fans on their feet from beginning to end. I’d have a ten-inch height advantage over Fedor and would fight him as the bigger man, making him fight shorter than he actually is. I’d utilize my reach, making Fedor come to me – and when he comes in close, I’d take him out."
1. Everyone else: "Bring ‘em all on! Look, I didn’t return to MMA just to collect a few paychecks. This is all about my legacy – about finally establishing myself as the number one heavyweight on the planet. When I’m at my best, I know how good I am… and the only one who can stop me is me. I’ve watched all those other heavyweights and believe me, I fear no one. Any time, any place, boys."
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lol...good for him. I wish him the best but he better have reinvented himself 20 times over.
Last edited by Evan; 08-25-2008 at 08:44 PM.
wasnt he the guy that slapped Pedro Rizzo in their fight?
Man...I don't know. If so I want to find the link.
I think I like this guy...I hope the best for him and will keep an eye on him. He probably needs to stay under the radar with Strikeforce for 3 fights. That would be perfect for him.
odd....
Rampage joins the Wolfslair in Liverpool as a new gym.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/5155/quint...r.mma#comments
I know Bisping has trained with Rampage before but its just odd for him to go overseas especially when he has so many kids.
Filho vs Silva????
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=6981&zoneid=3
KJ Noons brings the gold
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/...texc/#comments
KJ Noons...just...got...stripped...of...the... le!
No ing way? Link?
Update: Dave Meltzer is now confirming the story:
A source close to Randy Couture has confirmed today that Couture is in negotiations with UFC for a new three-fight deal which would end the nearly nine month legal battle between the two sides.
If the deal is closed, and the source said they are hoping to conclude negotiations and announce the match sometime within the next week, Couture would face Brock Lesnar on 11/15, most likely in Portland, Oregon.
Couture was said to be hoping that if everything went well, the next two fights could involve Fedor, Nogueira, and/or Chuck Liddell. However, all previous hangups involving Emelianenko and UFC remain.
"A source close to Randy Couture has confirmed today that Couture is in negotiations with UFC for a new three-fight deal which would end the nearly nine month legal battle between the two sides.
If the deal is closed, and the source said they are hoping to conclude negotiations and announce the match sometime within the next week, Couture would face Brock Lesnar on 11/15, most likely in Portland, Oregon."
Holy ing , that is news right there. Getting Randy back in the UFC would be great, it's his home, it's where he belongs. Why fight Brock now though?? I thought Brock was maybe going to fight Kongo next. I think Brock could win that fight, but either way it'd be interesting.
Lesnar is on a huge PR high..he's the real deal...no doubt. Standing and looking capable against Mir and winning vs Herring is nothing short of amazing. He's a HW version of o who can actually win.
Thinking about seeing Congo Vs Lesnar gets me excited but Randy Vs Lesnar has me hunched over grunting with my shorts around my ankles wasting DNA.
as a side note to various other match ups...
Well, Mir and Nog are locked up due to tuf
Last edited by Evan; 08-29-2008 at 10:37 PM.
Sorry...I was in shock and didnt really think about it...
http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/840...ight- le.htm
Im not sure if anyone else caught this, but I didnt so...did anyone else know WEC was folding 2 divisions. I knew they were combining them with the UFC, but they are dropping all the fighters not good enough for the UFC.
"While it has been rumored for some time, Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports has confirmed that Zuffa has formally decided to fold the 185 lbs. and 205 lbs. divisions in its World Extreme Cagefighting brand.
Despite the news, there is still no official timetable as to when the WEC will eliminate its middleweight and light heavyweight divisions, as the company is promoting a major middleweight le defense by current champion Paulo Filho against Chael Sonnen on its upcoming Sept. 10 show in Hollywood, Fla.
Once the two divisions are folded, top names such as Filho, former WEC light heavyweight champion Brian Stann, and former NCAA champions Mark Munoz and Jake Rosholt will no doubt cross over into the UFC. However, it appears as though many fringe fighters currently occupying spots in those divisions for the WEC could find themselves looking for a new company to fight for.
In recent months there had also been rumors about the long-term survival of the WEC and whether the entire fight promotion would be merged into the UFC, however, UFC President Dana White stated that isn’t going to happen anytime soon.
“…I can tell you this: It’s not going to go down,” White is quoted.
Another report that had surfaced recently was that the WEC’s television partner, VERSUS, had extended its contract with the promotion and increased the number of events it planned to televise next year. As of now, 10 cards could be televised in 2009 but that could change, especially since, as Iole points out, the number of fighters that will be available to the WEC will decrease by thirty-three percent.
However, where there is a will, there’s a way. If the WEC wants to hold more shows next year, it can do it if Zuffa is willing to invest even more money than it already has. The obvious solution would be for the company to go out and sign even more talent in the welterweight, lightweight, featherweight, and bantamweight divisions. As many great lighter weight fighters that the WEC already has under contract, there are plenty more out there just waiting for a chance to fight on a major platform.
There are also two other options that I believe the WEC should consider.
First, the possibility of adding a flyweight (125 lbs.) division might not be a bad idea. A lot of people might not want to see fighters that small competing, but there were a lot of people who at one time felt that there was no need for MMA to foster bantamweight and featherweight divisions in the United States. If there are good fighters that compete at 125 lbs., then they deserve a shot to compete on the big stage as well.
The other idea is one that has little chance of happening, but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t. While White has been cool to the idea of female MMA, I still believe it would be a great fit for the WEC’s brand concept. The WEC employs a purist philosophy when it comes to the fight game and aims to present the best fighters to the general public without any gimmicks or over-the-top marketing.
There are a lot of great female fighters still not signed to the AFL or EliteXC and with Zuffa’s resources, they could build an amazing female fight division over time. Yes, White doesn’t want to see females fighting, but a lot of people do and by adding a female division to the WEC, Zuffa could support it without promoting it under the UFC banner."
The bottom line is that if the WEC wants to do 10 shows next year while still cutting its 205 and 185 lbs. divisions, it’s going to need more fighters.
Thanks for that..wow. Good scoop by 411mania.
Not sure where I stand here...
Normally I side with "The Man" on such issues since if you sign a contract you should honor it but it seems like the Shaws screwed him over here. I'm really surprised this happened so fast.
I think Noons should have struck first publicly since such battles end up a PR fight with the fans. Look at the Randy deal...he handled that so bad...he came out with those petty complaints on his blog about how his friends weren't comped free hotel rooms and crap like that.
Yeah not sure how this is going to go down. My guess is their waiting on a couple orgs to implode and fill their rosters that way.
Tough thing...Steve Cantwell and Brian Stann are so fun to watch in the WEC since they put on such great shows but they have no place in the UFC talent wise right now. They would get picked clean like a corpse by vultures.
I know...Im just waiting to see if Anderson and Paulo will fight each other.
With a possible return of Randy Couture to the UFC in the works, might another former disgruntled UFC fighter be ready to follow in his footsteps?
During last night’s airing of “Inside MMA” on HDNet, former UFC light heavyweight champion o Ortiz stated that in addition to being engaged in contract negotiations with Affliction and EliteXC, a return to the UFC still remains a possibility — albeit a remote one.
“EliteXC — possibility. Affliction — possibility. UFC — a small chance of that happening,” the free agent fighter responded when discussing his future options.
Ortiz’s last fight for the promotion took place in May at UFC 84, where he lost a unanimous decision to undefeated light heavyweight sensation Lyoto Machida. After the fight, the long-standing feud between Ortiz and UFC President Dana White continued during a post-fight press conference. However, it sounds as though that Ortiz might finally be ready to move on.
“The things between me and Dana White, I’m shoving it off and moving on with my life,” Ortiz proclaimed.
Whether or not Ortiz and White can work with each other again in spite of their issues remains to be seen, but if a deal is worked out, it wouldn’t be the first time the two did business together while a great deal of animosity existed between the two.
The reality is that much like a free agent in baseball, basketball, or football, Ortiz is going to sign with whichever promotion makes him the best financial offer, irrespective of his personal feelings.
It was a good show. Inside MMA is turning into a weekly must see.
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