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    Seriously - PHI was my East team but they are cowards and fools and now I want them to go up in flames especially after dealing with PHI fans that say trading Fultz for Kawhi would be selling low on Fultz.

    Getting an MVP level player and 2x DPOY is selling low. On Fultz. I hope PHI burns out so hard and all that tanking is derailed with this terrible, cowardly and quite frankly embarrassing off season.

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    This is all true, but I don't think their solution was Kawhi Leonard.
    I don’t know how anyone can say that. They desperately need a star in his prime to compete with BOS or have any real shot. Kawhi is literally a perfect fit, available right now and would solve every single problem they have.

    The alternative? Doing nothing? That definitely isn’t a solution.

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    I don’t know how anyone can say that. They desperately need a star in his prime to compete with BOS or have any real shot. Kawhi is literally a perfect fit, available right now and would solve every single problem they have.

    The alternative? Doing nothing? That definitely isn’t a solution.
    Funny thing is, Totonto deal is way better than a bad fit fultz.

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    Seriously - PHI was my East team but they are cowards and fools and now I want them to go up in flames especially after dealing with PHI fans that say trading Fultz for Kawhi would be selling low on Fultz.

    Getting an MVP level player and 2x DPOY is selling low. On Fultz. I hope PHI burns out so hard and all that tanking is derailed with this terrible, cowardly and quite frankly embarrassing off season.
    You're not wrong, but it's actually good for us. I prefer the TOR package even if they were willing to trade Fultz.

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    I don’t know how anyone can say that. They desperately need a star in his prime to compete with BOS or have any real shot. Kawhi is literally a perfect fit, available right now and would solve every single problem they have.

    The alternative? Doing nothing? That definitely isn’t a solution.
    I’m increasingly of the mind that the hesitation on Fultz is that PHI is embarrassed about the Tatum deal fleecing.

    I also think the Spurs don’t really want him, and are hoping the PHI sweetens the pot of assets like adding the Turkish kid, Bolden, and more picks beyond that Heat one.

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    Funny thing is, Totonto deal is way better than a bad fit fultz.
    Agree with this. Do we think it’s DeRozen or Lowery?

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    I don’t know how anyone can say that. They desperately need a star in his prime to compete with BOS or have any real shot. Kawhi is literally a perfect fit, available right now and would solve every single problem they have.

    The alternative? Doing nothing? That definitely isn’t a solution.
    I think Kawhi is damaged beyond repair at this point. Going after Butler or another scorer might be the way to go.

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    Agree with this. Do we think it’s DeRozen or Lowery?
    DeRozan.

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    OG changed his IG profile pic too.

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    Agree with this. Do we think it’s DeRozen or Lowery?
    DeRozan

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    I think Kawhi is damaged beyond repair at this point. Going after Butler or another scorer might be the way to go.
    I dont think hes damage goods. He's playing it like he is100% healthy. Or else he would wanna lock up this 220 mil. Not trying to sabatoge it.

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    I don’t know how anyone can say that. They desperately need a star in his prime to compete with BOS or have any real shot. Kawhi is literally a perfect fit, available right now and would solve every single problem they have.

    The alternative? Doing nothing? That definitely isn’t a solution.
    They're banking on Fultz hard. Hopefully he can handle the pressure.

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    Also in play with the Raps is a bigger deal possibility. We can send out Pau, Patty, and Pauls non-guaranteed deal with Leoanrd for the DeRozen package and Ibaka. Raps in a precarious cap situation these next two years, and that Pau contract can help them avoid a luxary tax payment next year.

    Fully appreciating Serge isn’t the same player as before, he a better fit than Pau. For next two years then, you’re staring at a starting 5 of Murray, DeRozen, OG, Serge, LMA.

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    Seriously - PHI was my East team but they are cowards and fools and now I want them to go up in flames especially after dealing with PHI fans that say trading Fultz for Kawhi would be selling low on Fultz.

    Getting an MVP level player and 2x DPOY is selling low. On Fultz. I hope PHI burns out so hard and all that tanking is derailed with this terrible, cowardly and quite frankly embarrassing off season.
    Bro. Your holding on too tightly. Spurs would never go after a disgruntled, crazy uncle and agent, super star who only wanted to go to LA. Philly is going to do what they believe is right for them. If Kawhi leaves next year and Fultz does do well fans will be bitter for the foreseeable future. It's a risk they have to consider.

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    Jalen Rosesaid Kawhi wanted to leave way before the Tony or anyone else's comments. Why did he wanna leave? Why? Was not playing a plan all along when Kawhi didn't get his way?

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    I dont think hes damage goods. He's playing it like he is100% healthy. Or else he would wanna lock up this 220 mil. Not trying to sabatoge it.
    I suspect he's a mental basket case at this point. Anyway, Philly shouldn't give up assets for a rental. Boston can easily what they have up and Simmons and Embiid are better than cousins young players. Cut bait at this point.

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    I think Kawhi is damaged beyond repair at this point. Going after Butler or another scorer might be the way to go.
    PHI has made offers. Their doctors know Kawhi’s medical. If they thought he was damaged, they would have not made any offers IMO.

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    Also in play with the Raps is a bigger deal possibility. We can send out Pau, Patty, and Pauls non-guaranteed deal with Leoanrd for the DeRozen package and Ibaka. Raps in a precarious cap situation these next two years, and that Pau contract can help them avoid a luxary tax payment next year.

    Fully appreciating Serge isn’t the same player as before, he a better fit than Pau. For next two years then, you’re staring at a starting 5 of Murray, DeRozen, OG, Serge, LMA.
    No one plays 2 bigs anymore, take ibaka out of the lineup and put white or gay

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    The only snub I can possibly think if I had too was Pop not reacting to Kawhi going down. He kinda missed that. Or Pop not going at Zaza pike he should have. Or Pop bringing in Steve kerr's kid to play for the Spurs after their player injured Kawhi. Those are the only things I can come up with.

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    The Toronto thing would be over picks IMO. DeRozan & OG are obviously musts in the package, but they're probably going back & forward about how many picks the Spurs would want (I'd imagine 2 first rounders or Siakam & a first rounder)

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    They're banking on Fultz hard. Hopefully he can handle the pressure.
    I get that - but even if Fultz has a great breakout, he doesn’t overcome Hayward/Kyrie and they already lost 4-1 to BOS without those guys. Plus losing Ersan and Beli.

    But Kawhi is like adding an MVP to the team. Kawhi > Kyrie/Harden IMO or at least a of a lot closer. I get it, if they think Fultz is a superstar and can add another FA to that now? It’s great, but man there is so much risk and they aren’t even getting looks from free agents so far.

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    I also dont think Pop should have hired kerr's kid. Why the you wanna work for a guy that brings in the compe ion?

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    Bro. Your holding on too tightly. Spurs would never go after a disgruntled, crazy uncle and agent, super star who only wanted to go to LA. Philly is going to do what they believe is right for them. If Kawhi leaves next year and Fultz does do well fans will be bitter for the foreseeable future. It's a risk they have to consider.
    I have already explained my logic on the downside “risk” for PHI and it’s not much IMO. The upside is tremendous

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    I get that - but even if Fultz has a great breakout, he doesn’t overcome Hayward/Kyrie and they already lost 4-1 to BOS without those guys. Plus losing Ersan and Beli.

    But Kawhi is like adding an MVP to the team. Kawhi > Kyrie/Harden IMO or at least a of a lot closer. I get it, if they think Fultz is a superstar and can add another FA to that now? It’s great, but man there is so much risk and they aren’t even getting looks from free agents so far.
    Kyrie is gone. He's out of there as soon as he can go.

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    Kyrie is gone. He's out of there as soon as he can go.
    They beat PHI 4-1 without him.

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