Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[marinoman]

Holy lolol

thanx for posting this, oh god

[DPG21920]

I believe for desperate teams, who don't have many options at all, it makes sense to spend 14.5% of cap on a starting center.

Are they overpaying to secure avg talent, yes. But it makes sense based on where the cap is going and their current desperate situation. Demand for a competent or even avg. center is high.

Sure, but do you think Mozgov is a starting caliber center? Is he one for 4 years? Does he help them get to playoffs? Is he a fit with a younger team with his age?

I think it's likely a no to most of those questions. And they rushed to get him. That deal could have been accepted at any time IMO.

Again, I have said and agree with your logic/math, I just don't think that by default every contract is a good one because it makes sense on the % of the cap.

[Kindergarten Cop]

They are rumored to be considering doing that. I think the better basketball fit is here. The Spurs aren't running as much and he'll get more playing time in San Antonio. Of course GS will be able to offer him more $$.

Maybe he signs a 1 year deal and gets paid better next year.

Are you sure that Golden State really offer more than us? I thought that they were in the same cap situation (or worse) that we are in and needed to trade away pieces and renounce several players to make cap room. I can see them doing this for Durant, Horford, and a select few other FAs, but not Gasol.

[DPG21920]

GS can't really offer more than SA without losing players. I think they would do that for KD, but not Pau.

[tmtcsc]

Are you sure that Golden State really offer more than us? I thought that they were in the same cap situation (or worse) that we are in and needed to trade away pieces and renounce several players to make cap room. I can see them doing this for Durant, Horford, and a select few other FAs, but not Gasol.

They have 8 free agents right now that they can renounce or let walk. They are in much better shape financially than the Spurs.

Barbosa
Speights
Ezeli
Barnes
Clark
Rush
McAdoo
Varejao

[MaNu4Tres]

Sure, but do you think Mozgov is a starting caliber center? Is he one for 4 years? Does he help them get to playoffs? Is he a fit with a younger team with his age?

I think it's likely a no to most of those questions. And they rushed to get him. That deal could have been accepted at any time IMO.

Again, I have said and agree with your logic/math, I just don't think that by default every contract is a good one because it makes sense on the % of the cap.

He could be their starting center for 4 yrs. Its subjective ( they obv think so).

It will take more than an avg. center to get that team to the playoffs.

I think his skill set fits that perimeter oriented team, yes.

By the way, the Spurs spent more on Rasho than the Lakers are for Mozzy. ( 6 yr/ 42 yr deal: Cap was 43.8 mil at time in 03/04= 17 % of cap)

[Nathan89]

Wow! Was this really necessary?

Yes. Harlem is one of those store clerks that follow black people around the store from the second they come in till they leave.

[tmtcsc]

I honestly don't think his brother is just tossing out that information to the media on his own, he's smarter than that. I think that it was something that Pau had honestly talked with him about and even told him that he didn't mind if he'd share it with the world.

They probably did talk about it, but I don't think it was anything other than Marc's opinion. What could it hurt? Someone asked him about his brother's future and he felt San Antonio would be a great match. Great team, lots of international players, one of the best coaches in the NBA..

[Kindergarten Cop]

They have 8 free agents right now that they can renounce or let walk. They are in much better shape financially than the Spurs.

Barbosa
Speights
Ezeli
Barnes
Clark
Rush
McAdoo
Varejao

You really think that they'd risk losing the rights to match an offer sheet to Barnes just to get Pau? Zero chance.

Not only that, but they're not gutting their bench to bring in Pau (who doesn't fit their style of play nearly as well as he would in San Antonio).

As I said, they may consider renouncing some of these players for a Tier 1 FA, but not for Pau.

[Kindergarten Cop]

They probably did talk about it, but I don't think it was anything other than Marc's opinion. What could it hurt? Someone asked him about his brother's future and he felt San Antonio would be a great match. Great team, lots of international players, one of the best coaches in the NBA..

But is wasn't as if he said it only once. He continually brought it up, which made it strange ... especially considering that he was still under contract with the Bulls.

[NASpurs]

[Kindergarten Cop]

[Nathan89]

They have 8 free agents right now that they can renounce or let walk. They are in much better shape financially than the Spurs.

Barbosa
Speights
Ezeli
Barnes
Clark
Rush
McAdoo
Varejao

Can't wait to see what Barbosa, Rush, and Speights get. Some team should pay them enough to take them away from GSW. Not sure what they do with Ezeli either. GSW is about to lose a lot of depth or pay a ton of money.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Can't wait to see what Barbosa, Rush, and Speights get. Some team should pay them enough to take them away from GSW. Not sure what they do with Ezeli either. GSW is about to lose a lot of depth or pay a ton of money.

I agree. I think that Barnes gets a max offer sheet and Ezeli and Barbosa get some significant offers that force the team that is light-years ahead of every other team in the league to make some difficult decisions.

[tmtcsc]

You really think that they'd risk losing the rights to match an offer sheet to Barnes just to get Pau? Zero chance.

Not only that, but they're not gutting their bench to bring in Pau (who doesn't fit their style of play nearly as well as he would in San Antonio).

As I said, they may consider renouncing some of these players for a Tier 1 FA, but not for Pau.

They don't have to let all 8 walk to sign Pau. Who would the Spurs need to let walk or trade in order to make room for Pau? I don't think the Warriors are afraid to lose Barnes. He just isn't that good to begin with. How he made Team USA is beyond me.

I hope Pau comes here but GSW could easily give him the better offer without doing damage to its core of Thompson, Curry, and Green.

[NASpurs]

[szkorhetz]

The new Kobe contract. Makes Green and even Parker bargains

[timtonymanu]

suddenly Parker's contract looks decent.

[HarlemHeat37]

Derozan is so polarizing here, half the Raps fanbase didn't want him back, and rightfully so..

Treating him like a franchise player when he should be a 6th man, tbh..

[BatManu20]

Parker's contract really isn't bad compared to some of these atrocities. Lol at the lakers.

[Kindergarten Cop]

They don't have to let all 8 walk to sign Pau. Who would the Spurs need to let walk or trade in order to make room for Pau? I don't think the Warriors are afraid to lose Barnes. He just isn't that good to begin with. How he made Team USA is beyond me.

I hope Pau comes here but GSW could easily give him the better offer without doing damage to its core of Thompson, Curry, and Green.

You're strongly mistaken on Barnes. Even Woj stated that the Warriors would have to match a max offer on Barnes (unless of course they land Durant) because they wouldn't have the cap flexibility to replace him if they let him walk.

As I said, the Spurs are in a similar position as the Warriors regarding the amount we could offer - but the fit is so much better in San Antonio. I don't see another contender throwing significantly more than we could offer at him, but we'll see.

[gambit1990]

raptors

[timtonymanu]

Parker's contract really isn't bad compared to some of these atrocities. Lol at the lakers.

Yep and it's great Spurs got Wing Stop and Aldridge for reasonable amounts.

[Ditty]

Ll Lkrs " We don't rebuild, we reload!"

[marinoman]

At this point Parker is a backup not a starter tho