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    Nobody has destroyed me yet for suggesting that I may like Sochan better at SF than PF.

    Sochan is more of a small ball PF to me, he’s a little lacking in height for the PF position. When we play him at the 4 and Keldon at the 3, we are really lacking height. Throw in the short for their positions Jones and Vassell, and we wonder why we get creamed on the glass night after night.

    The reason I bring this up again is because of how it changes our priorities. Many are lusting after our next “long 3” at SF, when PG and PF/C are the bigger glaring needs to me.
    I dont think people really disagree with you. I for one think a player in the mold of Jarabi Smith Jr. is who would be perfect up front with Sochan and Wemby: a floor spacer who plays good D and doesnt really need the ball much. Its a bet on Wemby and (to a less extent) Sochan's future playmaking ability at their respective positions.

    Rasachire would appear to fit the mold the best, followed by probably Matas tbh.

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    I dont think people really disagree with you. I for one think a player in the mold of Jarabi Smith Jr. is who would be perfect up front with Sochan and Wemby: a floor spacer who plays good D and doesnt really need the ball much. Its a bet on Wemby and (to a less extent) Sochan's future playmaking ability at their respective positions.

    Rasachire would appear to fit the mold the best, followed by probably Matas tbh.
    Risacher is exactly this mold

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    I dont think people really disagree with you. I for one think a player in the mold of Jarabi Smith Jr. is who would be perfect up front with Sochan and Wemby: a floor spacer who plays good D and doesnt really need the ball much. Its a bet on Wemby and (to a less extent) Sochan's future playmaking ability at their respective positions.

    Rasachire would appear to fit the mold the best, followed by probably Matas tbh.
    Risacher seems less athletic and weaker physically, I don't know that his frame will allow him to fill up as I think Cody Willliams can. If you're convinced he can play good defense at the NBA level, then you take him for sure. I'm not sold on him, but I'm going by a few clips I've seen here and there, so take it with a grain of salt.

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    Messing around with Tankathon and their algorithm seems to consistently have the spurs’ top 5 as:

    Topic
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    Matas

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    Risacher is exactly this mold
    Risacher’s Level On Perimeter Defense Is So Far Off From Jabari’s It’s Not Even Funny. Watch A Minute Of His Film. He Can’t Even Stay In Front Of Faster Players

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    I used to think that our best bet was to have the TOR pick convey this year as a bird in the hand, but the more I read about this class the less interested I am and I’d rather the pick not convey or for us to trade it. I don’t really want the #7-10 pick on this team, nor do I really want the #1-6 pick either. I’d prefer to just trade out completely.

    Would be interested in finding our way in to the 20s to add Filipkowski though.

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    It's a junky lottery for sure, but it's a bad draft curse: if you don't want the picks, who else would? This is why I don't want to draft high and stuck with a high salary slot mediocre player. I do want one prospect though.

    Filipowski I think will go top 10 or 12.

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    Anyone that picks Topic over Dillingham is either a dumbass or a racist troll.

    It’s going to sound like Gaza every game a Topic-Sochan-Wemby trio plays. “Oh but Sochan has improved his 3p shooting” that November linsanity run for him behind the arc is over. That percentage is dropping every week and it will continue to do so. He will never be a good shooter. He’s 36/113 (31.8%) from three outside of November.

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    Well from one dumbass to another, I would still choose Topic over Dillingham

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    Mr Body is always in love with point guards who can’t shoot. His favorite in the last draft was Anthony Black. And piss, he seems to like piss
    Anthony Black

    Dont forget the re s on this forum willing to mortgage Keldon and picks for Amen Thompson

    Something about players that can’t shoot gets these bas s going like some Viagra. Idk why that is.

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    Anthony Black

    Dont forget the re s on this forum willing to mortgage Keldon and picks for Amen Thompson

    Something about players that can’t shoot gets these bas s going like some Viagra. Idk why that is.
    one thng i noticed about anthony black, i had good seats to that gsme, he’s as hairy as teen wolf but without the game he looked slow & lethargic. Thank God we didnt trade up for him

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    Anthony Black

    Dont forget the re s on this forum willing to mortgage Keldon and picks for Amen Thompson

    Something about players that can’t shoot gets these bas s going like some Viagra. Idk why that is.
    For real. I blame Kawhi for it. They think it is easy to just turn a bad college shooter into an elite NBA one, without realizing that for every guy that fixes his shot, there are tens of players that couldn't make it past their rookie contracts.

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    Damnit, I even forgot about Anthony Black and some ST posters love affair with the kid because "court vision!!"...

    Keldon + 2FRPs to trade up for Anthony Black was a thing here.

    Oomph!

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    Anthony Black

    Dont forget the re s on this forum willing to mortgage Keldon and picks for Amen Thompson

    Something about players that can’t shoot gets these bas s going like some Viagra. Idk why that is.
    This and the way some people are always buying the hype and getting overexcited about unproven kids with a lot of flaws who have played zero NBA games...because "potential"... Every year, it's the same. and the reason why the draft will always remain an uncertain exercise, expect for Wembys or Lebrons and why fundamentally sound, high BBIQ players with a feel for the game (with a minimum of atheticism) will always have my preference. You can't teach that and you can buld around.

    Look at the career a guy like Batum had, not the flashiest name in his draft, but you could see the player he became (and already was) at 18. No wonder spurs wanted him.

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    Damnit, I even forgot about Anthony Black and some ST posters love affair with the kid because "court vision!!"...

    Keldon + 2FRPs to trade up for Anthony Black was a thing here.

    Oomph!
    I mean he's a rookie, but I never backed a package like that.

    My take was always that after Wemby and Scoot I didn't like anybody. I thought the Thompsons had big issues and wanted to trade down if we got those picks. I didn't think the top ten was as strong as advertised. Black looks strong at the things he's strong at, defense and knowing how to move the ball. It took Suggs a while to develop for them, too.

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    I mean he's a rookie, but I never backed a package like that.

    My take was always that after Wemby and Scoot I didn't like anybody. I thought the Thompsons had big issues and wanted to trade down if we got those picks. I didn't think the top ten was as strong as advertised. Black looks strong at the things he's strong at, defense and knowing how to move the ball. It took Suggs a while to develop for them, too.
    You liked Black more than Scoot.

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    I wasn't either way on Black, but to say he wasn't worth the pick because he hasn't shown it yet it ludicrous. Many here is saying (rightfully so) that we don't need to draft a point guard because it takes so long for new point guards to learn the NBA game, but are now saying 45 games into his career that Black was a bust as the number 6 pick. If that is still the case in Feb 2026, maybe then. Perfect example is Kuminga. Until the last 20 games it seemed like he was a bust. The light finally went on and I am certain it would take a king's ransom to pry him away from GS now.

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    I still like Anthony Black a lot. Defensively he’s already good. Offensively he’s in a pretty poor situation where he’s asked to play off ball a lot which isn’t his strength at all. Between Suggs/Fultz/Anthony they already have 3 ball handling guards ahead of him in the rotation and then Wagner operates as their hub and Paolo isos up as well.

    Point guard is usually the toughest position for rookies. It’s not like Bufkin is tearing it up and he was the best shooting pg in the draft. Scoot has had his struggles to say the least. Amen. JHS.

    Cason is doing well but he was always a good enough shooter to play off ball and his biggest question mark was his penetration and creation but he’s not asked to do that in OKC so his situation is pretty nifty for him.

    black is a nice passer and with his size has access to passing angles that many guards don’t. Hed have great potential to throw short range lobs, entry passes to beat a fronting defender, etc.
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    I liked Scoot and JHS more than Black. JHS can't get into the Lakers rotation and is shooting poorly in limited opportunity.

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    Mr Body sold Spurstalk on Black last year

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    I had Black #12 on my board right behind Bufkin.

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    You liked Black more than Scoot.
    Haven't really paid all that much attention to Orlando, but they have a logjam in the backcourt, and looking at their stats, he's shooting 49.7% overall and 38.1% from 3 (granted, on low volume). Scoot has sucked major balls, most of his numbers have come from garbage time at horrendous efficiency. I would gladly take Black on the Spurs if Orlando were inclined to move him.

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    I liked Scoot and JHS more than Black. JHS can't get into the Lakers rotation and is shooting poorly in limited opportunity.
    JHS is awful. Negative BPM in college, just a terrible pick.

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    I liked Scoot and JHS more than Black. JHS can't get into the Lakers rotation and is shooting poorly in limited opportunity.
    I always said I'd take Scoot at 2 but wouldn't be happy about it. I always liked Black but said I didn't want him as high as top five or whatever and acknowledged bad shooting that may never get fixed and lack of fit next to Sochan. Determining anything at this point is as stupid as the people saying Branham or Wesley are awful at this point. It's just lame and idiotic especially how raw every player is who comes into the league nowadays.

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    JHS was much more of a project than the others, but if you squinted you could see some special things from him as well

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