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Damn, Haslem on the Bobcats would've been deadly added to Gerald Wallace, Stephen Jackson, and with Larry Brown coaching..
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Miami tried to enlist Charlotte as 3rd-team to make Amar'e deal but failed, league sources said. Udonis Haslem would've gone to Charlotte.
Damn, Haslem on the Bobcats would've been deadly added to Gerald Wallace, Stephen Jackson, and with Larry Brown coaching..
Very interesting. If only Miami tried to enlist us...
I wanted to put this in the Deng for Jefferson thread but alas I was not IBTL
In other big man news:
Drew Gooden is likely to negotiate a buyout with the Wizards, sources tells Y! Sports. Bucks, Bobcats, Nugs and return to Mavs all possible.
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That could make it 9 teams in 8 seasons.
Gooden would fit very well with the Nuggets personality-wise..
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.co...38893/20097253McGrady Update
The Knicks and Bulls are waiting to hear back from the Rockets on their intentions with regard to Tracy McGrady, a high-level source involved in the process told CBSSports.com Tuesday.
New York is hopeful its proposal involving Jared Jeffries and his $6.9 million owed in 2010-11 -- along with some combination of first-round picks after 2010 -- will be successful in landing McGrady and his $23 million expiring deal. The combination would dramatically enhance the Knicks' efforts to clear enough cap space to sign two max free agents this summer. Completing a deal with Houston involving Jeffries would get the Knicks within about $1 million of that goal -- an amount that theoretically could be trimmed by buying out Eddy Curry's contract.
Chicago is believed to remain involved in discussions with the Rockets about McGrady, with the same goal in mind. That's where things get complicated, as the Bulls also are engaged in talks with the aforementioned Knicks, Trail Blazers, Spurs, and to a lesser degree the Nuggets in various trade scenarios involving Tyrus Thomas.
While sources indicated that the Knicks' chances of landing McGrady had risen to "50-50" over All-Star weekend, two people on the periphery of the negotiations expressed pessimsm Monday that the deal as currently constructed would go through. Houston is driving a hard bargain for McGrady's expiring chip and holds all the cards, with the negotiations expected to go down to the 3 p.m. Thursday deadline, one source said.
Due to the size of McGrady's contract, sources say a third team may need to be recruited to keep the discussions alive. In addition to the Bulls' involvement, another source said Cleveland, Miami, and Philadelphia -- all engaged on one level or another with the Suns for Amar'e Stoudemire -- were high on the Rockets' list of teams to recruit. Cleveland, it is believed, will be reluctant to participate in any deal helping New York shed Jeffries for obvious reasons; the cap room would boost the Knicks in the race to see which team can overtake Miami in the driver's seat for the 2010 free-agent bonanza.
Pretty damn sure the Spurs gave the Knicks $3 million in the Malik trade.
Hopefully that happens. That would make the Nuggets more apt to meltdown.
Blazers are out, Nuggets don't really have the contracts to do the trade...the Bulls also are engaged in talks with the aforementioned Knicks, Trail Blazers, Spurs, and to a lesser degree the Nuggets in various trade scenarios involving Tyrus Thomas.
IMO, the market for Thomas is quite little and Spurs have a legit shot at getting him.
I think our main compe ion for Thomas will be the Lakers-Bulls-Minnesota 3-way deal and if the Knicks get the Bulls involved with the 3-way deal for McGrady with Houston..
TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs don't get Thomas and end up making a trade that surprises all of us..or no significant trade at all other than dumping Mason..
Just read . . .
If the Blazers buy Thomas for $3 million and trash, that would be annoying.And while it seemed like the Trail Blazers were probably out of the mix for Thomas now that they've landed a big man in Marcus Camby, Ken Berger of CBS Sports writes they are still interested in him.
"The Blazers have kept in close contact with Bulls officials regarding Thomas, and the acquisition of Camby has not dampened their interest, a source said," he writes. "They may need a third team to facilitate a deal since they sent their two most significant expiring contracts to the Clippers for Camby."
if that happened, I don't remember it.
Thomas to Portland doesn't make any sense from a personnel-standpoint though IMO, especially after the Camby deal..I wouldn't be surprised if they do it just so Pritchard can with the Spurs..
Blazers don't really have the contracts to make a trade, even with a third team involved.
Chad Ford: The Knicks have had discussions with both the Rockets and Bulls about deals that would bring Tracy McGrady and Tyrus Thomas to New York.
However, as of Tuesday afternoon, the Knicks say they aren't sure where they stand with either team.
McGrady's agent, Arn Tellem, initiated talks with the Knicks and has been trying to make a deal happen, according to a source close to the process. The Knicks believe McGrady can still play and are hoping he can both lead them to a playoff berth and help convince LeBron James to come to New York this summer. Even if McGrady can do neither, he would allow them to get further under the cap this summer if they can include Jared Jeffries in a deal with Houston.
However, the Rockets' asking price is steep if they have to take back Jeffries and the $6.6 million remaining on his contract next year.
The same source said the Rockets want expiring contracts, 2009 first-round pick Jordan Hill and future first-rounders from New York to make it happen. That's too rich for the Knicks' blood. While they'd love to clear Jeffries' contract off the books, it's too big of a risk. If the Knicks didn't land a marquee free agent or two this summer, they'd have given away up to three lottery picks for nothing.
If the Rockets drop the request for the future 2012 first-rounder, the Knicks might be game for a deal that would send Larry Hughes, Jeffries and Hill to Houston for McGrady. However, a source close to the process believes that the Rockets may have better options for McGrady if the Knicks won't meet their demands.
Meanwhile, New York has also initiated discussions with the Bulls about a Tyrus Thomas swap. The Knicks are willing to offer Chicago Al Harrington for Thomas and Jerome James. While Harrington would be a plus for the Bulls this season, Chicago has been hoping to get a future asset (preferably a first-round pick or a good player) in return for Thomas.
I think the Spurs are at the point where they realize now that they have to start surrounding Duncan (and to a lesser extent, Parker and Ginobili) with more young talent and athleticism than just Hill and Blair. This is why acquiring Thomas makes sense and why they may trade McDyess to facilitate that. A 10-11 big man rotation of Duncan-Thomas-Blair-Splitter is very intriguing.
For the Blazers, it makes perfect sense. Outlaw and Blake were two spare parts on a team overloaded with depth and young talent and neither was going to be retained after the season. At SF, they're already covered with Webster/Batum (in addition to opening up more minutes for Fernandez, as they can occasionally slide Roy up to SF and play three guards) and at PG, they're covered with Miller/Bayless (Roy can also slide down to PG). Camby gives them a C for the remainder of this season, but isn't on the books next season when they'll have Oden/Pryzbilla back at C.
Last edited by TD 21; 02-16-2010 at 06:28 PM.
Trade buzz: Heat looking for trade partner
By Adrian Wojnarowski
The Miami Heat have failed to recruit the Charlotte Bobcats as a third team in trade talks for Amar’e Stoudemire, league sources said. The discussions centered on Charlotte taking on Udonis Haslem in a deal, but the price ultimately made no sense for them.
It would’ve possibly opened the door for Miami to deal Jermaine O’Neal to the Suns and take back both Stoudemire and Jason Richardson. The Suns have tried to include Richardson, who will make $14.4 million next season, in packages with Stoudemire.
– Adrian Wojnarowski, 6:08 p.m. ET, Feb. 16
Gooden could become free agent
Drew Gooden will likely negotiate a buyout with the Washington Wizards, sources said. Once a free agent, he’ll have several possible destinations, including the Charlotte Bobcats, Milwaukee Bucks, Denver Nuggets and a return to the Dallas Mavericks.
The Wizards acquired Gooden on Saturday in their trade that send Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson to Dallas.
– Adrian Wojnarowski, 6:08 p.m. ET, Feb. 16
trading for thomas is at least doing something but i just don't see how that'd help us THIS season..
thomas is a roll of the dice player.. i just don't know.. plus.. it won't fix our center problem..
It did. Malik had a 3M dollar trade kicker. Spurs sent the cash along to cover it.
We have the pieces to facilitate the PHX-MIA trade above:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjcz8ya
If our only off-season acquisition is Haslem we might as well start tanking now.
Too good to be true. I dont see Miami giving up both PF and a potential in Wright.
By Frank Hughes, SI.com
Displeased with the way he has fit into their system, the San Antonio Spurs are attempting to trade forward Richard Jefferson just days before the trade deadline, multiple league sources have confirmed.
However, because of Jefferson's lack of production this season, as well as his $14.2 million salary, it does not seem likely the Spurs are going to find any takers.
"They're trying, but there may not be a market for his contract," one Eastern Conference executive told SI.com.
Jefferson has one year and $15.2 million remaining after this season.
The calls being placed by Spurs general manager R.C. Buford are a stark admittance that he made a mistake when trading Bruce Bowen, Kurt Thomas and Fabricio Oberto to the Milwaukee Bucks for Jefferson, envisioning him as yet another talented scoring option to complement Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.
Instead, the 29-year-old Jefferson is having the worst season since his rookie year, averaging 12.2 points, 3.6 rebounds and 2.1 assists as he has struggled to fit in with the Spurs' primary trio.
Perhaps even more intriguing is whether Buford's intentions with Jefferson is a sign that he thinks the Spurs in their current form cannot win a le. The Spurs are essentially tied with the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Phoenix Suns for the fifth seed in the Western Conference but have lost eight of their past 14 games.
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