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    Man, Mormons are a tenacious lot.
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    Man, Mormons are a tenacious lot.
    All that time defending the religion tbh
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    All that time defending the religion tbh
    I figure they would be exhausted from keeping blacks out of the church for so long.
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    why doesnt he play pest defense like mills?
    Jimmer sucks on defense. His teammates had to cover for him when he was at BYU.
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    Man, Mormons are a tenacious lot.
    That and building high fertility rates into the religion has served them well.
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    Jimmer sucks on defense. His teammates had to cover for him when he was at BYU.
    Actually, those BYU teams were horrible at defense. They are great offensive teams. But terrible defensively. There round one loss last year in the tournament said it all.
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    Where are you getting these numbers?

    These two players are very similar. They are jump shooters who are not afraid to take big shots. Where I find Jimmer's Assist numbers to be low for playing with SAC, I think Mills has a high TO for playing with SA. Either way, they both are averaging PER GAME through their career a little over 1 apg and a little under 1 TOpg.

    Shooting stats are similar, though I think Patty has a better shot, I don't know if that would be the case if Jimmer gets in the rotation.

    People on here talking about release and shot need to get real. Jimmer is a 38% 3pt shooter on 500 attempts. Release is not a problem. ADDITIONALLY Jimmer is a sub. Do you really think that when/if he gets in the game, the opponent will put their BEST DEFENDER on him? I would say probably not.
    I think Jimmer is probably a better uncontested 3 point shooter than Patty, but what happened this season is teams have all worked out how to play him, just get a hand up, you dont need to force him deeper.
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    . You undoubtedly went over the stats with your magnifying glass; and that's that the best you could come back with.....

    And Fredette's TOV's were significantly better than Mills in their first couple years. Then, Mills finally settled into a system and his TOV's went down. Jimmer's never had that luxury...
    here is another stat I noticed

    18% from three


    18%



    18%


    and what is it he can do again?
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    here is another stat I noticed

    18% from three


    18%



    18%


    and what is it he can do again?
    I ain't bothered.
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    Actually, those BYU teams were horrible at defense. They are great offensive teams. But terrible defensively. There round one loss last year in the tournament said it all.
    well yea, teams usually aren't good when it's 4 on 5. People like to criticize Parker's defense but Jimmer makes Parker look like a DPOY candidate.
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    well yea, teams usually aren't good when it's 4 on 5. People like to criticize Parker's defense but Jimmer makes Parker look like a DPOY candidate.
    Calm down.
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    over what?
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    indeed, all NBA defensive second team.

    then Parker


    then Jimmer
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    here is another stat I noticed

    18% from three


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    and what is it he can do again?
    lol you took his worst year, with least amount of 3s taken. Do you understand the terms valid or reliable? This is the problem with "stat-warriors." You should have stopped after he was 0-1 last year and said he was a 0% shooter.

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    If Jimmer is confident he can be a great player and have no slow release issues. If he has no JIMMERMANIA left in him...stick a fork in the guy and let the summer diversion be gone. He will probably end up a coach here. sounds like a super guy.
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    lol you took his worst year, with least amount of 3s taken. Do you understand the terms valid or reliable? This is the problem with "stat-warriors." You should have stopped after he was 0-1 last year and said he was a 0% shooter.

    #takeastatsclass
    It was a bad year; and if Jimmer plays like that for the Spurs, he'll find himself out of a job. Something happened in NOL. I don't know if it was mental, emotional, maybe even physical. They did some stuff to screw with his mindset. I've never seen Jimmer pushing/aiming/lunging on threes like that before last season. But I've watched the offseason shooting drill vids, and he seems to have regained his form.
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    It was a bad year; and if Jimmer plays like that for the Spurs, he'll find himself out of a job. Something happened in NOL. I don't know if it was mental, emotional, maybe even physical. They did some stuff to screw with his mindset. I've never seen Jimmer pushing/aiming/lunging on threes like that before last season. But I've watched the offseason shooting drill vids, and he seems to have regained his form.
    Wasn't Monty williams Rivers god father or something? May have been a family thing. That or the Pelicans have some great individual talent, but they aren't team players. Kind of a talented Sacramento.
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    Wasn't Monty williams Rivers god father or something? May have been a family thing. That or the Pelicans have some great individual talent, but they aren't team players. Kind of a talented Sacramento.
    If that's true, that's a significant conflict of interest.
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    C'mon kids, 150 more posts til 2000. can you gots do it before the preseason opener??
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    So you guys think he's gonna play rotation minutes or what
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    Rasual Butler will be in training camp.
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    Rasual Butler will be in training camp.
    Jimmer just got Rasualed...
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    I like Butler a lot over Jimmer unless Simmons' playmaking was just a product of playing against weaker compe ion. Had the Spurs managed to get Fredette to sign a two-year deal, I'd give him the edge. But Butler likely helps the team more as a 12th or 15th man than Jimmer would as a wing. And Simmons' size, athleticism and defensive potential put him above Jimmer as a combo-guard/fifth PG.
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