Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[baseline bum]

Hanga was just to get the salaries to match, I didn't know he already re-signed with his current club.

What is the best offer Cleveland has gotten so far? It doesn't seem to me like anyone is willing to give up much for Irving.

They have been offered Bledsoe, which beats Green + Murray. They have been offered Melo, which beats that also.

[rjv]

it's not always what is offered on just value alone. it's also what is offered that fits a teams need. i have read previous articles that indicated the cavs do not want bledsoe because he does not fit their needs. but personally, i am tepid to irving anyway. for all those that wanted to include LMA because they say he disappears without leonard, the same can be said of kyrie. his value is pedestrian when lebron is not in the lineup.

[Ice009]

Man, if they get Josh Jackson too, then they win that trade IMO. I can't believe Phoenix would offer him up. Kyrie's very good/great at one thing, but not much else. I wouldn't give up Josh Jackson. If the Spurs were somehow able to pull off a trade to get him on draft night, I wouldn't trade him in any package for Kyrie at all. I hope the Suns aren't stupid enough to do that. Also, someone mentioned he can be traded Aug. 5th, why is it so early? Is there a different rule for drafted players and free agents on how long after they sign that they can be traded?

it's not always what is offered on just value alone. it's also what is offered that fits a teams need. i have read previous articles that indicated the cavs do not want bledsoe because he does not fit their needs. but personally, i am tepid to irving anyway. for all those that wanted to include LMA because they say he disappears without leonard, the same can be said of kyrie. his value is pedestrian when lebron is not in the lineup.

Very true. That's a great point. I remember continuously being amazed at how bad the Cavs were the past couple of seasons when Lebron wasn't in the lineup. I don't think Lebron should let that out into the public, but when I did read/hear him say it, I thought back to those games where he took the night off and more often than not, they got smashed., so I felt he did have a little bit of justification in saying that. He also probably wanted to rest more during the season and was pissed of to see how poorly they did without him, so because of that he probably felt he couldn't take many rest games because of it. I do understand where he came from with those comments, but I just don't think it was something that should have been out in the public as it wouldn't have helped with the morale of the locker room and his teammates' egos.

[ducks]

if the suns trade brooker and josh they are stupid

[Ice009]

if the suns trade brooker and josh they are stupid

I think they're complete idiots if they trade Josh Jackson, but if it's Booker instead, I think that's not as bad, not great, but not as bad.

[Big Empty]

The Suns should stay put unless its Booker Straight up and a draft pic.

[Big Empty]

The Cavs should just go ahead and trade us LeBron and keep that young team together.

[TheDoctor]

The Cavs should just go ahead and trade us LeBron and keep that young team together.

[coachmac87]

Only one thing has been clear....the media has no ing clue where Kyrie is going to end up lol

[SpursBig3s]

There is a post on Facebook going around saying "news circulating around that the San Antonio Spurs are pushing an offer that features 2 veteran guards for Kyrie Irving." Patty and Danny. Which I guess is why Patty hasn't signed yet? it's on NBA News fb page.

I think it's fake. No way we sign Patty to gthat 4yr deal just to trade him, which can't be done until Dec. 15th


EDIT: Fake News. They took down their post on facebook as far as I can tell.

[SpursforSix]

There is a post on Facebook going around saying "news circulating around that the San Antonio Spurs are pushing an offer that features 2 veteran guards for Kyrie Irving." Patty and Danny. Which I guess is why Patty hasn't signed yet? it's on NBA News fb page.

I think it's fake. No way we sign Patty to gthat 4yr deal just to trade him, which can't be done until Dec. 15th

Please let it include Parker.

[cd98]

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[cd021]

if the suns trade brooker and josh they are stupid

I think they're complete idiots if they trade Josh Jackson, but if it's Booker instead, I think that's not as bad, not great, but not as bad.

The Suns should stay put unless its Booker Straight up and a draft pic.

Unless I missed more recent news it would probably be Bledsoe, Miami 2018 1st rounder ( probably in the 16-20 range) and maybe even PHX's own 2018 pick (probably a top 10 pick even with Kyrie on the Suns) . It sounded pretty clear that Jackson and Booker won't be in the trade .

[TheDoctor]

There is a post on Facebook going around saying "news circulating around that the San Antonio Spurs are pushing an offer that features 2 veteran guards for Kyrie Irving." Patty and Danny. Which I guess is why Patty hasn't signed yet? it's on NBA News fb page.

I think it's fake. No way we sign Patty to gthat 4yr deal just to trade him, which can't be done until Dec. 15th


EDIT: Fake News. They took down their post on facebook as far as I can tell.

And for the hundredth time in this thread, Patty can't be traded until January (125% salary raise).

[SpursforSix]

And for the hundredth time in this thread, Patty can't be traded until January (125% salary raise).

So it must be Parker and Green.

[Chinook]

And for the hundredth time in this thread, Patty can't be traded until January (125% salary raise).

That's true after he officially signs. If he hasn't signed yet, he can totally be S&T. However, Cleveland should be too far in the tax to receive a player in that type or transaction, so it's still moot.

[TheDoctor]

That's true after he officially signs. If he hasn't signed yet, he can totally be S&T. However, Cleveland should be too far in the tax to receive a player in that type or transaction, so it's still moot.

Thanks for clearing that up

[cd021]

So it must be Parker and Green.

Parker's not getting traded and Cleveland wouldn't be interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury that may keep him out until February.

If a trade does down between CLE and SA it would almost certainly have to involve a 3rd team and include both Aldridge and Green

[bklynspursfan]

Parker's not getting traded and Cleveland wouldn't be interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury that may keep him out until February.

If a trade does down between CLE and SA it would almost certainly have to involve a 3rd team and include both Aldridge and Green

Idk why people still put TP in these trade scenarios.

[Spurs9]

The Suns should stay put unless its Booker Straight up and a draft pic.

No way I'm trading Booker or Jackson, anyone else is game though.

[Dunc n Dave]

And for the hundredth time in this thread, Patty can't be traded until January (125% salary raise).

I've heard it reported several times that December 15th was the first day newly signed players can be traded? So you are saying there is a rule that if a player gets a 125% raise from his last contract, he has to wait even longer to be traded?

[Chinook]

I've heard it reported several times that December 15th was the first day newly signed players can be traded? So you are saying there is a rule that if a player gets a 125% raise from his last contract, he has to wait even longer to be traded?

Yes

[poop]

Patty is a fast shooter and when open can cause some damage.... his style of play is perfect for KL... we cannot lose him and thus we offered him a good amount of money to stay with the spurs long term.

Stop acting like its a bad signing and hope you and others can have trust in the spurs... how many ing times must RC and POP prove to you dumb s

I like mills. It wasnt entirely serious

[ducks]

I thought you liked poop

[palangi]

Thanks for clearing that up

So much for the hundredth time.....ha ha