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    i remember dude thought paul ryan and mitch mcconnell were going down as part of this too
    IIRC the main bet was that the Trump family were going down. Trump, his re sons and Ivanka+Jared.

    Technically there is still time. There are unsealed indictments left and Trump could be charged with something post presidency by the SDNY for example.

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    His base is always rallied and raved. They're maniacs who would follow Trump down a cliff.

    That's not really an issue for impeachment. like you said though, elections are near so this will prove to be a wasted exercise if they choose to do it.
    Agree

    Democrats should be rallying behind a couple candidates and a couple issues (Healthcare, jobs) and go from there

    any more of this re ation is a terrible strategy

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    You sound like a mental reject or a troll.

    anyone wanting him impeached is a re ed piece os . Not only would thT mean Pence is in power but it would most likely fail as there is little time unt elections. and it would rally his base

    Dumb mothed er. You don't know what's best for you but again you are probably a troll seeking attention
    Idiot.

    It has to be done because no one is above the law.

    You can play politics all you want - I care only about the rule of law and it is an insult to all of us to have a piece of criminal in office.

    Unfortunately Pence is a piece of also - but it will be very brief that he will sit in office -if it ever gets to that.

    What will happen is that pieces of like you in the Senate will refuse to convict a proven criminal and will go down with the ship - just like you.

    Go yourself you unpatriotic piece of .

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    Speaking of proven criminals....



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    IIRC the main bet was that the Trump family were going down. Trump, his re sons and Ivanka+Jared.

    Technically there is still time. There are unsealed indictments left and Trump could be charged with something post presidency by the SDNY for example.
    i know the other stuff wasn't part of the bet, but still kinda funny how far down the rabbit hole he was willing to go... literally thinking paul ryan and mitch mcconnell were going down for russia stuff

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    That FISA application is a killer t ah. Basically proven false statements to get that FISA warrant

    Ppl do time for much less

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    That FISA application is a killer t ah. Basically proven false statements to get that FISA warrant

    Ppl do time for much less
    proven false when? at the time the warrant was granted?

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    proven false when? at the time the warrant was granted?
    If at the time they did not have evidence yes. It was proven false then too

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    They offered a lightly redacted report. Nadler wants it stripped of all. TSA
    I just heard a lady on CNN say the report released to the public only had 9% of it redacted.

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    i remember dude thought paul ryan and mitch mcconnell were going down as part of this too
    I didn’t remember that

    You’re like a real life Google.

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    Convicted felon and liar. Great source of info rigth there.

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    Just wait until we see the redacted parts and Mueller has to testify. Trump will be finished then.

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    I didn’t remember that

    You’re like a real life Google.
    president orrin hatch

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    If at the time they did not have evidence yes. It was proven false then too
    thats not how "proven false" works

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    i remember dude thought paul ryan and mitch mcconnell were going down as part of this too
    If only. I'd take another two terms of Trump if it meant McConnell would die of AIDS.

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    I didn’t remember that

    You’re like a real life Google.
    "Google... find 'Paul Ryan'"

    Google: "So today you want to find Paul Ryan. Yesterday you hated him"

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    If only. I'd take another two terms of Trump if it meant McConnell would die of AIDS.

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    Did you read the full 438 pages?
    Waiting

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    And this is a pretty good response.

    And this one is even better


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    If you trumpers gave a about your country - you would read this piece and try to grasp what your hero has done;


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3506216002/

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    Current Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani calls former Trump attorney Don McGahn a liar

    Giuliani didn’t just call McGahn a liar. As the Washington Post reports, he said he wished he could get Trump’s former fixer on the stand.

    “The narrative is written as if it’s all true and somebody proved it. Nobody proved it,” Giuliani said in an interview Friday.

    “I’m frustrated by the report because in some ways I’d love to have a trial and prove that it’s not true.”

    It would be interesting to know how Giuliani would achieve this legal feat,

    since the only other person in this he said / he said narrative

    has both refused to testify and

    defended his ability to take exactly the action which McGahn claimed.


    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1851806



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    Mueller's report shows how Russia colluded with the Trump campaign through Assange and Roger Stone

    “After the U.S. intelligence community publicly announced its assessment that Russia was behind the hacking operation,

    Assange continued to deny that the Clinton materials released by WikiLeaks had come from Russian hacking,”

    the report reads.

    “According to media reports, Assange told a U.S. congressman that the DNC hack was an ‘inside job,’

    and purported to have ‘physical proof’ that Russians did not give materials to Assange.”

    [...]

    By then, it was no secret where the do ents came from.

    The computer security firm CrowdStrike had already published its technical report on the DNC breach, which laid out a trail leading directly to Moscow and the GRU.

    Analysts at ThreatConnect independently presented evidence that Guccifer 2.0 and DC Leaks were fictional creations of that agency.


    But rather than refuse to comment on his sources, as he’s done in other cases,

    Assange used his platform to deny that he got the material from Russians,

    and make statements at an alternative theory.

    On August 9, 2016,

    WikiLeaks’ Twitter feed announced a $20,000 reward for “information leading to conviction for the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich.”

    Assange fanned the flames even higher on August 25, 2016, when he was asked in a television interview,

    "Why are you so interested in Seth Rich's killer?"


    "We're very interested in anything that might be a threat to alleged Wikileaks sources,” Assange answered.

    “If there's someone who's potentially connected to our publication,

    and that person has been murdered in su ious cir stances,

    it doesn't necessarily mean that the two are connected.

    But it is a very serious matter .. that type of allegation is very serious, as it's taken very seriously by us."


    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/19/1851519/-Mueller-s-report-shows-how-Russia-colluded-with-the-Trump-campaign-through-Assange-and-Roger-Stone?detail=emaildkre



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    The Mueller Report’s ‘Smoking Gun’ on Obstruction of Justice

    It is only two sentences in a report of some 448 pages.
    As yet unnoticed,

    these lines provide the strongest new evidence uncovered by Robert Mueller’s investigators that President Donald Trump may have indeed obstructed justice.

    Two people directly involved in the case told me that several of the

    special counsel’s prosecutors privately considered this information to be a “smoking gun” suggesting that the president acted
    criminally.


    1) "
    By the time the President spoke to Comey about Flynn, DOJ officials had informed McGahn, who informed the President,

    that Flynn’s statements to senior White House officials about his contacts with Kislyak were not true and that

    Flynn had told the same version of events to the FBI.

    McGahn also informed the President that Flynn’s conduct could violate 18 USC §1001."

    2) "[
    US Code le 18 § 1001 is the federal statute that makes it a felony to lie to the FBI or other federal investigators, a crime that Flynn did indeed later plead guilty to.]"

    The significance of this section is that Trump’s personal attorneys have always defended the president by arguing to the special counsel that

    Trump did not know that Flynn was under criminal investigation for lying to the FBI about his conversations with Kislyak.
    The central incident in any potential obstruction case, described on page 46 of Volume II of
    the Mueller report, is well known:

    Comey had alleged that Trump had pressured him, while the two men were alone in the Oval Office, on February 14, 2017, to shut down an FBI investigation of Trump’s former national security adviser, Flynn.

    Despite Trump’s denial that he said this to Comey,

    the special counsel concluded that “substantial evidence corroborates Comey’s account.”

    An obstruction of justice is an effort to “corruptly” impede or interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation.

    The special counsel uncovered evidence that Trump did exactly that.

    https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/04/19/the-mueller-reports-smoking-gun-on-obstruction-of-justice/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NYR%20Irrationality %20kidnapping%20Mueller&utm_content=NYR%20Irration ality%20kidnapping%20Mueller+CID_028a279d68625f3de 0ada6a55251a384&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_term=The %20Mueller%20Reports%20Smoking%20Gun

    My guess: Pelosi won't let articles of impeachment onto the House floor for a vote.



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