Spurs Select F Jeremy Sochan with the 9th Pick in the 2022 NBA Draft

[KobesAchilles]

This kind of experiment, by JKidd using Giannis, DIRECTLY led to his transformation into the player he is now, and he was probably less equipped for it than Sochan was.

The failure in the doubters thinking is thinking that his discomfort with the situation is somehow bad. You never learn from successes, only from failures.

This might be the dumbest post I’ve seen in a while. The last sentence simply isn’t true at all. People learn from success all the time. I mean you need to be able to learn from failure as well but you don’t ONLY learn from it.

Also I’m glad to see you comparing him to Giannis. It’s a very realistic expectation I have for him now. He should be like Giannis when it’s all said and done. After all, your own words, Giannis was even less equipped than Sochan, so Sochan should be a top 15 player of all time. For every Giannis, there are 50 Sochans whose experiment never works.

[John B]

I hate to bring up the Kobe tapes again , but nobody envisioned him to be the player that he is now when Spurs drafted him at 15. I think PATFO sees something him Sochan that they’re willing to do a PG experiment, not to make him a PG but develop his skills to the next level

[The Truth #6]

Pop's point guard experiments have generally had good success: Parker, Dejounte. On one hand, if he sees something in Jeremy then I'm willing to give it a chance. But on the other hand, right now, it's generally pretty painful. The challenge is that Jeremy is having to learn point guard in a much more difficult situation. I agree that it's a huge task he is undergoing. But he's my favorite player on the team so I'm biased.

[spurraider21]

Sochan generating 0.55ppp as the pick and roll ball handler and 0.54ppp in iso situations.

[BacktoBasics]

I hate to bring up the Kobe tapes again , but nobody envisioned him to be the player that he is now when Spurs drafted him at 15. I think PATFO sees something him Sochan that they’re willing to do a PG experiment, not to make him a PG but develop his skills to the next level

This is how I see it. It’s not an experiment to see if he’s gonna be our next pg. It’s an experiment to see if he can round out some areas of his game would be highly beneficial next year. We all like his energy and how he gets to the basket. That would only be greatly improved if he handles the ball better, picks up his dribble at more opportune moments and develops some instinctive awareness if the lane collapses unfavorably.

[exstatic]

I hate to bring up the Kobe tapes again , but nobody envisioned him to be the player that he is now when Spurs drafted him at 15. I think PATFO sees something him Sochan that they’re willing to do a PG experiment, not to make him a PG but develop his skills to the next level

That’s exactly what they’re doing. It’s what JKidd did with Giannis.

[CGD]

I don't think Sochan will ever have the defensive chops of a Draymond Green, and his passing vision doesn't come close to a Ben Simmons. I do wonder though given his size, well-roundedness, and developing shot and handle, the Spurs might see something closer to a Scottie Barnes, who also came into the league with a very questionable jump shot but with above average vision, toughness, and work ethic. Sochan is about a year younger than Barnes was when he came into the league so this season actually should be compared with Barnes' rookie year, but I think that he may be able to get there with time.

I actually really like the Barnes comp. Some play making and scoring with size, and good D.

[Obstructed_View]

Over the last dozen years we have had specific metrics we have followed for developing players, point guards and non point guards alike. We wanted them to develop a three point shot, develop their handles and have some go-to moves. Point guards need to be able to bring the ball up and make good decisions. I think people forget how young Jeremy is. Dejounte was 20 when he was a rookie and was putting up Sochan numbers when he was 23.

[KobesAchilles]

I hate to bring up the Kobe tapes again , but nobody envisioned him to be the player that he is now when Spurs drafted him at 15. I think PATFO sees something him Sochan that they’re willing to do a PG experiment, not to make him a PG but develop his skills to the next level

Didn’t know we drafted Kobe? Why tf do we only have 5 rings then?

Also it’s ok to bring up the Kawhi tapes again. Bc Kawhi actually proves more my point than yours. We had years before we let Kawhi get to where Sochan is now. It’s like we are trying to microwave Sochan instead of letting him slow cook. This PG experiment is fine, in year 4 when he is used to the league, his confidence is higher, his skills are better, and he has an overall feel for the game. Sochan has no go to move, no feel for the game, admitted to his confidence being shot at times, and really feels like a fish out of water.

While with Kawhi we made the transition as smooth as possible. I feel like Pop is rushing this year with Jeremy and I don’t know why. Is he sick? Does he have less time than we thought? Even with the extension. I’ve never seen Pop so lackluster on a team before. And it’s making me speculate

[dbestpro]

Pop's point guard experiments have generally had good success: Parker, Dejounte. On one hand, if he sees something in Jeremy then I'm willing to give it a chance. But on the other hand, right now, it's generally pretty painful. The challenge is that Jeremy is having to learn point guard in a much more difficult situation. I agree that it's a huge task he is undergoing. But he's my favorite player on the team so I'm biased.

Parker and Murray were PGs to start. Neal, Mason and Forbes were experiments. Now we have a whole team that plays defense like Forbes.

[Obstructed_View]

Parker and Murray were PGs to start. Neal, Mason and Forbes were experiments. Now we have a whole team that plays defense like Forbes.

Murray was a point guard to start, and Sochan is better.

[spurraider21]

Murray was a point guard to start, and Sochan is better.

Sochan generating 0.55ppp as the pick and roll ball handler and 0.54ppp in iso situations.

[Obstructed_View]

Um. Wow.

[itzsoweezee]

Didn’t know we drafted Kobe? Why tf do we only have 5 rings then?

Also it’s ok to bring up the Kawhi tapes again. Bc Kawhi actually proves more my point than yours. We had years before we let Kawhi get to where Sochan is now. It’s like we are trying to microwave Sochan instead of letting him slow cook. This PG experiment is fine, in year 4 when he is used to the league, his confidence is higher, his skills are better, and he has an overall feel for the game. Sochan has no go to move, no feel for the game, admitted to his confidence being shot at times, and really feels like a fish out of water.

While with Kawhi we made the transition as smooth as possible. I feel like Pop is rushing this year with Jeremy and I don’t know why. Is he sick? Does he have less time than we thought? Even with the extension. I’ve never seen Pop so lackluster on a team before. And it’s making me speculate

Yes. Why not let him play point against bench units, a few minutes at a time, or a few plays at a time? What they’re doing now is just not a rational approach to developing some very hard skills to learn

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

While with Kawhi we made the transition as smooth as possible. I feel like Pop is rushing this year with Jeremy and I don’t know why. Is he sick? Does he have less time than we thought? Even with the extension. I’ve never seen Pop so lackluster on a team before. And it’s making me speculate

I'm not sure Pop's aware of where his car is parked, so it's likely he's not as dialed in on player development as he used to be.

[rascal]

How does Sochan look not playing pg?

[Extra Stout]

I think Sochan’s confidence is ruined. He’ll have to be some other team’s reclamation project.

[rascal]

I think Sochan’s confidence is ruined. He’ll have to be some other team’s reclamation project.

It wasn't like he was playing great last year.

[ace3g]

[Sugus]

I think Sochan’s confidence is ruined. He’ll have to be some other team’s reclamation project.

Having watched Pop ruin other players' confidence before like Lonnie, I'm not seeing that at all with Sochan. Why do you think this? He's competing every night and gets healthy playtime. Yes, not his natural position as we're all aware, but his demeanor, play, and body at ude don't scream "shot confidence" at all tbh.

Wake me up when he's too shy to keep the one-handed FTs going, tbh.

[Obstructed_View]

Having watched Pop ruin other players' confidence before like Lonnie, I'm not seeing that at all with Sochan. Why do you think this? He's competing every night and gets healthy playtime. Yes, not his natural position as we're all aware, but his demeanor, play, and body at ude don't scream "shot confidence" at all tbh.

Wake me up when he's too shy to keep the one-handed FTs going, tbh.

He was shooting very well from three point range (47% in November) and had his best game of the season, then he got benched and had his role taken away, a sign that the coaching staff agreed with the illiterati that he was to blame for the team's lack of success. He hasn't taken a single confident three pointer since then and his percentage is in the trash (13%).

[spurraider21]

His 3pt% is already regressing to the mean, down to 34% and dropping since he still shoots it like a catapult

[z0sa]

Sochan does nothing good, literally. Nothing. He is one of the biggest non-passers to Wemby as well, passes to him about once a ing game. Better not pass, Sochan can instead drive to nowhere and kickout to someone who isnt even open. Sochan.

[spurraider21]

[cd98]

People need to ease up on Sochan. He is a second year player and is just 20 years old. Let's give him a full three years to see if he improves. He has raw talent and athleticism. Did playing point guard mess with his confidence? Maybe. But the answer to helping him get his confidence back is not to call him a bust when he has played for less than a 1.5 seasons of NBA basketball. He should shoot and the more he shoots, the more opportunities he will have to figure it out and right the ship. His defense runs hot and cold, but that could be said of the entire team except Wemby, who is so physically gifted that he does not have the same learning curve as a normal player.

He looked good his rookie year, and I think he played a little more than half of his rookie season and now he's less than halfway through his 2nd year. That comes to about a season of experience. He has had good moments this year. Let's see what he turns into and judge by that if he fits on this team or not.