General playoff thread

[MultiTroll]

Not if their "superstar" Tatum continues to the bed.

Like I've said, this is now the Warrior's series to lose. They have home court back, and proven they can win in Boston.

They haven't even played that well and the series is still tied 2-2. If it wasn't for a miracle 4th quarter in game 1, the Celts would be down 1-3 right now.

Imes role?

If he is telling Tatum and the Celtics to cut the Kobme and get back to ball movement and the team is simply not complying, well that's not on Ime.
Popped told the team during the timeout Game 6 Dallas 2006 "Do NOT foul the shooter." Yet glory hound Manu did the idiotic, robbing Timmy Dunks of yet another Championship.

OTOH if Ime is condoning this bull then he is very much a part of the problem.

Bud got bailed out by Freak. Still hoping 100 that Ime can wake up and take this thing down.

Ya true the Celts could be down 3-1. Could just as easily be up 3-1. Last night was a strategy disaster. When even Mark Jackson notices things correctly then it requires a basketball IQ of over only .00001 to get.

[Dex]

Imes role?

If he is telling Tatum and the Celtics to cut the Kobme and get back to ball movement and the team is simply not complying, well that's not on Ime.
Popped told the team during the timeout Game 6 Dallas 2006 "Do NOT foul the shooter." Yet glory hound Manu did the idiotic, robbing Timmy Dunks of yet another Championship.

OTOH if Ime is condoning this bull then he is very much a part of the problem.

Bud got bailed out by Freak. Still hoping 100 that Ime can wake up and take this thing down.

Ya true the Celts could be down 3-1. Could just as easily be up 3-1. Last night was a strategy disaster. When even Mark Jackson notices things correctly then it requires a basketball IQ of over only .00001 to get.

So when Pop is successful, it's all because he was carried by Duncan.

But when Ime (first time head coach who got his team to the Finals) is up against the wall, it's all Udoka's fault?

Seems like a double-standard.

I'm pretty sure Ime isn't telling Tatum to shoot 34% for the series, and turn the ball over at a historic rate (through 22 playoff games so far, he has already committed 91 turnovers, just three behind James’ record of 94 turnovers in a single playoff run.)

Yes, coaching adjustments need to be made...and that falls on the coaching staff. The idea to play drop back coverage on Curry for the first two games was stupid.

But teams don't generally win playoff games when the person who is supposed to be their best player is being the worst version of themselves.

Basically, Steph Curry has stepped up, Jayson Tatum hasn't...and that's the difference in this series.

[Robz4000]

So when Pop is successful, it's all because he was carried by Duncan.

But when Ime (first time head coach who got his team to the Finals) is up against the wall, it's all Udoka's fault?

Seems like a double-standard.

I'm pretty sure Ime isn't telling Tatum to shoot 34% for the series, and turn the ball over at a historic rate (through 22 playoff games so far, he has already committed 91 turnovers, just three behind James’ record of 94 turnovers in a single playoff run.)

Yes, coaching adjustments need to be made...and that falls on the coaching staff. The idea to play drop back coverage on Curry for the first two games was stupid.

But teams don't generally win playoff games when the person who is supposed to be their best player is being the worst version of themselves.

Basically, Steph Curry has stepped up, Jayson Tatum hasn't...and that's the difference in this series.

That's also the reason I think Boston will win this series tbh. They have another level or two they can realistically play at (Tatum stops choking and the team cuts down on the stupid turnovers). Dubs already have Curry playing at 100%; not sure if Klay has it in him to play at his old level, and their role players are young/mediocre.

[MultiTroll]

Not if their "superstar" Tatum continues to the bed.

2 Boston wins, Tatum 13 and 9 assists.

2 losses Kobme had 6 and 3.

Can this not be imposed upon Tatum by Ime? Can't the rest of the team chime in?

I mean WTF this does not require Rocket Scientist / Fabbs level super high BBIQ.

[Dex]

2 Boston wins, Tatum 13 and 9 assists.

2 losses Kobme had 6 and 3.

Can this not be imposed upon Tatum by Ime? Can't the rest of the team chime in?

I mean WTF this does not require Rocket Scientist / Fabbs level super high BBIQ.

So just to be clear...Jayson Tatum just needs to pass the ball and let Brown, Hordford, Smart, and Derrick ing White shoot more?

Instead of putting the blame on the Celtic's First Team All-NBA player for under-performing...you think it's Ime's fault for just not telling him to give up the ball?

I just want to understand the reasoning here.

[MultiTroll]

So when Pop is successful, it's all because he was carried by Duncan.

That is not entirely true.
Only 99%.

But when Ime (first time head coach who got his team to the Finals) is up against the wall, it's all Udoka's fault?

Seems like a double-standard.

"All" or nothing?
Something Fabbs never said for 200 Alex.
Game 4 Imes tolerating Tatums bull is indeed on Ime. Ime partially shares the Game 4 loss.

I'm pretty sure Ime isn't telling Tatum to shoot 34% for the series, and turn the ball over at a historic rate (through 22 playoff games so far, he has already committed 91 turnovers, just three behind James’ record of 94 turnovers in a single playoff run.)

Yes, coaching adjustments need to be made...and that falls on the coaching staff. The idea to play drop back coverage on Curry for the first two games was stupid

Excellent point on the stats. So is Ime and staff pointing this out to Tatum and admonishing him to cut the ? Appears not with Game 4 including the pathetic game losing 4th.
So where the f are the coaching adjustments?

But teams don't generally win playoff games when the person who is supposed to be their best player is being the worst version of themselves.

Basically, Steph Curry has stepped up, Jayson Tatum hasn't...and that's the difference in this series.

Facepalm.
Since Tatum being a chucking Kobme with low assists is NOT his best version, the answer is NOT to allow him / even encourage him "Oh just keep chucking, the shots will fall sooner or later." That is some st8 up incompetent coaching. Show Tatum and the team the stats on his passing vs chucking. Also the mindset. When you have guys overly deferring to their Kobme type it jacks up their own shots and offensive flow. This is what is being seen far too many key possessions for the Celts.

Basically, State is playing to it's strengths (Curry and WarriorRef) while Boston is not playing to it's strengths in only 2 of 4 games.

Where is the coaching?

[MultiTroll]

So just to be clear...Jayson Tatum just needs to pass the ball and let Brown, Hordford, Smart, and Derrick ing White shoot more?

Instead of putting the blame on the Celtic's First Team All-NBA player for under-performing...you think it's Ime's fault for just not telling him to give up the ball?

I just want to understand the reasoning here.

Tatum can still get his shots. I don't want him out of the offense. But i want his passing and shooting to be balanced. Keeps the Warriors defense off guard too.
Rather, this and the eyeball test do not lie:

2 Boston wins, Tatum 13 and 9 assists.

2 losses Kobme had 6 and 3.

Can this not be imposed upon Tatum by Ime? Can't the rest of the team chime in?

I mean WTF this does not require Rocket Scientist / Fabbs level super high BBIQ.

[Dex]

Tatum can still get his shots. I don't want him out of the offense. But i want his passing and shooting to be balanced. Keeps the Warriors defense off guard too.
Rather, this and the eyeball test do not lie:

That's fair.

Good discussion.

[daslicer]

That's also the reason I think Boston will win this series tbh. They have another level or two they can realistically play at (Tatum stops choking and the team cuts down on the stupid turnovers). Dubs already have Curry playing at 100%; not sure if Klay has it in him to play at his old level, and their role players are young/mediocre.

Klay can only have 2 turn back the clock games per a series. He's already had 1 good game. He can only have 1 more and that's it.

[spurs10]

So when Pop is successful, it's all because he was carried by Duncan.

But when Ime (first time head coach who got his team to the Finals) is up against the wall, it's all Udoka's fault?

Seems like a double-standard.

I'm pretty sure Ime isn't telling Tatum to shoot 34% for the series, and turn the ball over at a historic rate (through 22 playoff games so far, he has already committed 91 turnovers, just three behind James’ record of 94 turnovers in a single playoff run.)

Yes, coaching adjustments need to be made...and that falls on the coaching staff. The idea to play drop back coverage on Curry for the first two games was stupid.

But teams don't generally win playoff games when the person who is supposed to be their best player is being the worst version of themselves.

Basically, Steph Curry has stepped up, Jayson Tatum hasn't...and that's the difference in this series.

Yes, simple enough Tatum needs to step up.

That's also the reason I think Boston will win this series tbh. They have another level or two they can realistically play at (Tatum stops choking and the team cuts down on the stupid turnovers). Dubs already have Curry playing at 100%; not sure if Klay has it in him to play at his old level, and their role players are young/mediocre.

I actually feel the same because I think he can play much better. Even in Curry's monster Game 4 the Celtics were up midway in the 4th. Tatum is the key and I expect him to have great games in the last best of three.

[KingKev]

Warriors in 6

[Dejounte]

Tatum is not the player people think he is. He just looks the part. He showed his true colors during the Olympics. He is a tier below the truly great players in the league. He’s due for a scoring explosion every now and then, but he’s not some player you expect to “step up” on a consistent basis. This is who he is.

[KingKev]

Tatum is not the player people think he is. He just looks the part. He showed his true colors during the Olympics. He is a tier below the truly great players in the league. He’s due for a scoring explosion every now and then, but he’s not some player you expect to “step up” on a consistent basis. This is who he is.

C’mon man. He is 24 yrs old. He can still become elite.

[Brazil]

Sorry I TOTALLY disagree with you on a player's RIGHT to disrespect the flag. Professional athletes are paid exorbitant amounts of money to PLAY... They are NOT paid that money to make political statements while they are getting paid to play! If I started blathering on and on with MY political opinions and wore a shirt with a political statement when I was getting paid to work, management would politely call me into an office, close the door and politely and pointedly tell me that while I have a right to my opinions, they hired me to do the job they are paying me to do... NOT to express my political opinions on THEIR time.. Further, they would tell me to go home and put on a work appropriate shirt with NO political statement on it.. and then come back to work. I have 3 Let's Go Brandon t shirts that I wear regularly.. but I would NEVER consider wearing them at work because it would be inappropriate to do so.
Undoubtedly, they would also tell me that if I refused, I WOULD be fired.
Players DO NOT have a right to force their political opinions on the fans by kneeling, making gestures, or wearing uniforms with political statements on them while playing.
If said players were really THAT passionate about something, there are appropriate times and places to express their opinions. Doing so while you are being paid to play is NOT one of those appropriate times...PERIOD.. no arguments by you or anyone else on this issue

How I missed dat gem ?

ducks: ""
also ducks: finally I can write english

[Arcadian]

Tatum still needs a breakout finals game. Maybe tonight's the night.

[slick'81]

Celtics really need white to put some points up

[baseline bum]

ing Mark Davis

[lefty20]

Celts bent on breaking the Rockets 0-27 3pt streak.

[lefty20]

Anti-jinx successful, ur welcome Boston.

[slick'81]

As ty as bos is playing they are hanging around

[Spurs Homer]

Mark davis is on a mission tonite!

[slick'81]

Man bos is 3/8 from the line,3/16 from three and 7 to's . They must be ex static to only be down 12

[slick'81]

D.white 0/2 fg with 1 point

[slick'81]

Warriors 3/20 from 3. Here come the Celtics

[slick'81]

Al horford!!!!!!