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    Honestly if it’s only the psychologist and no one else that is pressing charges he probably
    gets away with it and will be on a team by next year. But we will see what she says tomorrow morning.

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    I heard she was a contractor which is not an employee. Spurs could have said we want her replaced because of what happened with Primo to her employer (which could have reasonably pissed her off). She must have signed a NDA which she is about to break tomorrow with a presser with legal counsel.
    Yes, I understand that she was a contractor. I am just saying her website currently says: "Dr. Hillary Cauthen is the Co-Owner of Texas Optimal Performance & Psychological Services, LLC, Austin, Texas, Performance Psychologist for the San Antonio Spurs, Co-Founder of BluChip Analytics, and Co-Founder of Living Mental Wellness, LLC." https://www.livingmentalwellness.com/ So I think that they would have changed that if it's been many months that she hasn't been with the Spurs (or maybe not - people are lazy about updating their websites).

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    Schizophrenia? I don't see that at all. My uncle had schizophrenia and it looked way different from anything I have ever seen or heard of with Primo. He used to think he was having conversations with the radio and killed a guy because the radio told him to. The drugs they put you on to control it turn you into a complete space cadet too, they make things so slow. I wouldn't wish that disease on my worst enemy.
    Yes timvp's source is pie-in-the-sky levels of optimistic. There are unsubstantiated reports from Amin al Hassan that say he located a prep school allegation that resulted in Primo’s expulsion. Spurs knowledge and continued support of him with that knowledge will cost them financially and in the public opinion.

    And I concur on the alleged schizophrenia diagnosis. In fact if you look up schizophrenia that kind of behavior would manifest itself in multiple other ways concurrent or in lieu of flashing.

    It's much more in line with a kid who is acting out after potentially being exposed to aome level of sexual abuse as a youth, but its also awash with potential sociopathy that might have nothing to do with prior sexual victimhood at all.

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    Fanficking Part II: Joshua Primo -- Master of the Universe

    Four Seasons Incident: *Happens*

    Spurs: WTF is that, Primo?

    Primo: I've got some darkness in me from childhood trauma. I'm trying to work my way through it.

    Spurs: Well, we feel that, man. You seem like a good kid, but we can't just let this slide after those rumors about you in prep school. You're not playing tonight. Go see the psychologist. We'll speak with her about a plan to help you deal with this. Don't worry, we'll just tell everyone you've got butt spasms.

    Primo: Sounds good. I have been feeling a little twitchy back there. Do you want to see?

    Spurs: I don't think that will be necessary.

    *Later*

    Spurs: So how did the session go? Do you think there's a way to make sure this behavior doesn't happen again?

    Psychologist: No. You need to get rid of that little . He exposed himself to me too.

    Spurs: Ugh that's disgusting. How exactly did it happen? Did he threaten you? We need the full story.

    Psychologist: You don't believe me?

    Spurs: No, we actually do believe you, but we need to make sure we have the full story before we take drastic moves.

    Psychologist: I can't believe this. You have a predator on your team, and you're looking for excuses for him. I can't work with an organization that will leave their staffers vulnerable to a man like that. There's no way I should've been in the room alone with him.

    Spurs: We accept your resignation. We take these matters very seriously but will need to do a full investigation.

    Psychologist: You can take that up with my lawyer.

    Spurs Legal: Drop him.

    Spurs: Just like that?

    Spurs Legal: Just like that. Between the two of us, she's probably right, and the longer he's on the team, the more risk we're running.

    Spurs: K.

    Spurs: We're letting you go, Josh

    Primo (thinking about the hotel thing): I know I really stepped over the line this time.

    Spurs (thinking about the thing with the psychologist): You did. We can't take the hit for this. We hope you figure out your issues and can eventually return to the league. If you want our advice, own up to what happened. Face it and move past it.

    Primo: Thanks.

    Spurs: But please don't mention us any time soon.

    Primo (not knowing the psychologist kept getting eyefuls of his junk during their session): Will do. I guess the psychologist thinks I'm really messed up.

    Spurs: Definitely.

    Primo: Do you think she'll still do sessions with me? I feel like we have been making progress over the past few months.

    Spurs: ... I doubt that, buddy.
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    I would think so, yes
    Wonder if thats taking into account the prep school expulsion or only his time with the Spurs since being drafted?

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    Yes timvp's source is pie-in-the-sky levels of optimistic. There are unsubstantiated reports from Amin al Hassan that say he located a prep school allegation that resulted in Primo’s expulsion. Spurs knowledge and continued support of him with that knowledge will cost them financially and in the public opinion.

    And I concur on the alleged schizophrenia diagnosis. In fact if you look up schizophrenia that kind of behavior would manifest itself in multiple other ways concurrent or in lieu of flashing.

    It's much more in line with a kid who is acting out after potentially being exposed to aome level of sexual abuse as a youth, but its also awash with potential sociopathy that might have nothing to do with prior sexual victimhood at all.
    How is baby pervert going to hurt the spurs? are you suggesting something like "oh, we knew he was a pervert and we like that"? or "we knew he was a pervert, but we forgot, and we extended him, featured him, called him the franchise"

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    So, is it normal (even in a 'high' profile case) for there to be a press conference before a lawsuit is filed? I thought even if they did the demand letter first that it wouldn't make much sense to have a press conference right now. What are they trying to gain by it?
    Sorry. I just meant it was normal to send a demand letter.

    Press conferences are in the land of bread and circuses. I have no opinion on them except to say that sexual harrassment cases do seem to have more than their fair share of them.

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    Could be he said she said. They actually were messing around and Spurs dropped both.

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    Streakers in the 70s and early 80s weren’t arrested. It used to be a college campus tradition.
    There's also something very clearly universal about a streaker compared to a flasher in a 1 on 1 scenario in a closed room between a man and a woman.

    People should just use this test for themselves: Would I want it to happen to my mom or little sister?

    I would never want them in a situation that is slleged against Primo. We've been to an NFL game as?a family where someone streaked and it engendered nothing more than a passing, "what a moron" statement.

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    Maybe she made a trip to Minnesota while an investigation was already going on.

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    How is baby pervert going to hurt the spurs? are you suggesting something like "oh, we knew he was a pervert and we like that"? or "we knew he was a pervert, but we forgot, and we extended him, featured him, called him the franchise"
    Huh? Dude, prior knowledge of criminal behavior is like 9/10 of being ed in a civil lawsuit. Add in any new accusations to that mix which now reportedly happened on at least 3 occasions and you've got a problem.

    To me it's not even about the money though. It's about who knew what and when. Resignations are the name of this game. If evidence exists that PATFO knew for over a year and just released him, those members of PATFO will inevitably have shorter careers with the Spurs than otherwise planned.

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    primo will 100% be on another team next season.

    could even happen well before then.

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    primo will 100% be on another team next season.

    could even happen well before then.
    Let's send him back home, north to your raptors.

    Btw, not sure Primo showed out at a high enough level to overcome any concerns about his now very public mental health issues. That is going to follow him around for the rest of his life and accusations will have to be treated seriously, true or not.

    To me, he isn't worth it.

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    ]Btw, not sure Primo showed out at a high enough level to overcome any concerns about his now very public mental health issues. That is going to follow him around for the rest of his life and accusations will have to be treated seriously, true or not.

    To me, he isn't worth it.
    i haven't seen him play one second tbh.

    if it is just instances of flashing then i'm acquiring him asap but not having him suit up for anything other than practice for 3 to 4 months while he goes thru therapy.

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    i wonder if the spurs had let that woman know that josh may have a certain proclivity.

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    anyone know what time the conference is? sometime between 12 and 2?

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    Psychologist Hillary Cauthen has made an accusation against the 19-year-old Primo - she used to work for the San Antonio Spurs

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    Primo's Camp says: "'Never Intentionally' Exposed Himself During Therapy"

    Spurs might get accused of hiding this for over a year. Funny how the accuser no longer works for the Spurs.

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    Primo's Camp says: "'Never Intentionally' Exposed Himself During Therapy"

    Spurs might get accused of hiding this for over a year. Funny how the accuser no longer works for the Spurs.
    Sure sounds like potentially written by a defense liarwyer however let's hear Josh out.

    "Ya i did one Unintentionally."

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    i haven't seen him play one second tbh.

    if it is just instances of flashing then i'm acquiring him asap but not having him suit up for anything other than practice for 3 to 4 months while he goes thru therapy.
    I think the thing the folks in the "another team will sign him soon" camp are overlooking is the potential for him to be a locker room cancer or pariah nobody wants around.

    He really clowned himself.

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    I think the thing the folks in the "another team will sign him soon" camp are overlooking is the potential for him to be a locker room cancer or pariah nobody wants around.

    He really clowned himself.
    he's young though.

    if i'm a GM then i'm hoping this lights a giant fire under his āss. and if it doesn't then just cut him.

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    Fanficking Part II: Joshua Primo -- Master of the Universe
    I think a whole lot of

    Psychologist "got coached by Buzbee"

    might need to be in there.

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    Primo has absolutely nothing going for him at this point. Fans already hated him as a player BEFORE his high character took a nose dive. I just don’t see it being worth the time. He should play in the French league and hope for a Gary Neal reclamation. Pleading innocence is his only hope. Or a workout with the Lakers.

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    On front page of daily fail lol

    "wardrobe malfunction"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...chologist.html

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    if this happened in July or prior it would be hilarious for the Spurs to then roll him out as the spokes person of their new jersey sponsor

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