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F'ing Rockets...
F'ing Rockets...
I am not really liking the Rockets.
Story says the Rockets are leaning toward taking the Knicks offer over the Bulls offer, but that they'd likely decide tomorrow.
I'm at a point where TT to the Spurs makes too much sense and has all the inevitability of a deal that SHOULD happen...which means it likely won't for whatever reason.
I saw three way trade offer and others.
I've warmed alot to the idea of Tyrus Thomas coming...
It seems more likely that T-mac will go to the Kincks thusly TT will still be available.
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...ost_finalized/
Not too reliable perhaps but it also seems to be the most likely trade from Houston's perspective with all those draft picks.
At this point I seriously doubt the Spurs will be involved with any trade unless it helps them cut some payroll. We won't give up players that other teams would want.....such as Tim, Manu, Tony, Hill & Blair.
The difference between salvaging the season and rebuilding seems nebulous at this point. Not sure we could get any older or slower.
Rockets completing deal to send Tracy McGrady to New York
By Matt Moore
Our long national ...mild distraction may be over. Chris Mannix is reporting that the the Rockets and Knicks are finalizing a deal that will send Tracy McGrady to the Knicks in return for Jared Jeffries, Larry Hughes, and rookie forward Jordan Hill.
Mannix reports the deal will also include swapping of picks and that the remaining issues pertain to the protection of those picks.
With McGrady the Knicks get a tiny bit more room this summer and get to see if McGrady has anything left in him. Both Jeffries ($6.4 million with early-termination-option) and Hughes ($13.65 million and change) are expiring contracts, but the Knicks also surrender promising rookie Jordan Hill. The Rockets now have yet another talented forward to plug into their system, providing even more moveable assets, Jeffries who is a capable perimeter defender, and, well, the ghost of Larry Hughes.
McGrady finishes his career with the Rockets under a veil of disappointment. Instead of being the savior for the franchise, he was the remaining totem pole of pre-Morey decision making, when superstars were more important than production. We'll have to see what the mad genius does with all the room he's created. The Knicks? Just inching towards a fresh start from their early-decade disasters.
FWIW, Wojarnowski's report is more recent:
I wouldnt doubt the rockets holding out until the last possible minute regarding the T-Mac situation to prevent the spurs trading with the bulls. It's makes so much sense. I would do the same to prevent another team in my conference to make a deal to get better. What really hurt was all these damn rumors coming out to soon.
NY better get something or that's The Curry trade all over again. It's decent for Houston if the Knicks get 2 elite guys(A late pick and Hill for taking on Jeffries), and would be potentially great for the Knickerbockers if they got top talent.
If NY don't and they're Mediocre, it's great for Houston.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...lkRoundup-2010POSTED: Feb. 17 -- 1:04 a.m. ET
Robinson
Chris Sheridan: There are reports in the New York Daily News and Boston Herald that the Knicks and Celtics are close to a deal that would send Nate Robinson to Boston. I have confirmed that the teams have renewed discussions, but there is one major thing to keep in mind: Robinson is what's known as a base-year compensation player, which can be a complicating factor. Robinson makes $4 million, but the Knicks can take back a maximum of only $2.02 million in returning salary.
Just an educated guess, but if Boston was willing to trade a No. 1 pick for Nate, it'd blunt the pain of New York surrendering a first-rounder or two to the Rockets in a McGrady deal. On a related note, three plugged-in sources indicated the Knicks seemed eager to get their business done Wednesday rather than wait until the 11th hour Thursday afternoon.
Unrelated to Spurs' speculation, but something new that I thought was postable.
Also some crap on that page about more non-action and speculation with regard to the Cavs.
Chris Broussard: Sources with direct knowledge of negotiations between the Cavaliers and Wizards deny a report that the Cavs have made an offer (Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Jamario Moon, first-round pick) for Antawn Jamison.
The clubs have had discussions, but no offer is on the table, according to the sources.
Cleveland is still waiting for Phoenix to give a verdict on its offer of Ilgauskas, J.J. Hickson and a first-round pick for Amare Stoudemire. But the Cavs' interest in Jamison is real. Cleveland is very excited about Hickson's development and if they could obtain Jamison without giving up Hickson, they may consider taking that deal over the Stoudemire deal.
The Cavs have also had talks with Indiana about Troy Murphy, as well as Golden State about Corey Maggette.
Phoenix has been shopping Cleveland's offer around the league, basically asking clubs if they can top it.
Miami is trying, and Charlotte also tried to get in the discussions. But since the Bobcats don't have any expiring contracts, they have nothing of interest to the Suns. Sources say Stoudemire would not be interested in re-signing with Charlotte anyway.
There has been speculation that the Cavs are not truly interested in Stoudemire because they have yet to contact his agent, Happy Walters, about whether Stoudemire would sign a long-term deal with Cleveland.
But sources close to the situation say Stoudemire would be of value to the Cavaliers regardless of his feelings about a long-term contract. If things go well and Cleveland wins a le, he'll likely want to re-sign, and if he doesn't want to re-sign, the Cavs will be able to use him in a sign-and-trade deal.
Milwaukee, loaded with expiring contracts, is one of the more active teams and is expected to make a deal before the Thursday deadline. The Bucks have interest in Indiana's Troy Murphy, but the Pacers' asking price is too steep.
Denver, in search of a big man, contacted the Bucks about Kurt Thomas and Hakim Warrick. But talks didn't go far after the Nuggets refused to offer any of their rotation players.Chris Sheridan: There are reports in the New York Daily News and Boston Herald that the Knicks and Celtics are close to a deal that would send Nate Robinson to Boston. I have confirmed that the teams have renewed discussions, but there is one major thing to keep in mind: Robinson is what's known as a base-year compensation player, which can be a complicating factor. Robinson makes $4 million, but the Knicks can take back a maximum of only $2.02 million in returning salary.
Just an educated guess, but if Boston was willing to trade a No. 1 pick for Nate, it'd blunt the pain of New York surrendering a first-rounder or two to the Rockets in a McGrady deal. On a related note, three plugged-in sources indicated the Knicks seemed eager to get their business done Wednesday rather than wait until the 11th hour Thursday afternoon.
Hey, maybe I figured out why RJ's been playing so much 4...
Bucks Want Power Forward
Feb 17, 2010 1:20 AM EST
The Bucks are interested in acquiring a power forward, according to multiple sources.
Milwaukee has expressed willingness to take on players with contracts that run through next season.
One option for the Bucks is Troy Murphy, according to sources.
The Bucks are willing to take on salary for 2010.
Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap/#ixzz0flx2CQEi
It must suck to be a GM when your hands are tied and waiting for some type of salvation. Its like playing chess and waiting for your oponents next move before you can decide on your next line of attack.
if mcgrady ends up in new york chicago is still going to want to package thomas with hinrich,salmons,deng or someone else that has years left. only one i would see and hope we would be interested in is that of thomas/salmons for expirings (mason,fin,bonner,ian)
The value of expiring contracts has become really apparent. Houston seems like they're getting Hill, a pick and right to swap picks for taking on a contract that is roughly the size of Salmons, and the Knicks move increases the motivation for the Bulls as they're after the same guys as NY is. At the very least, it increases our bargaining position. If we think of Salmons the same as Jeffries, contract would give us A Talented Youngster, A pick and right to change another.
Ty Thomas is possibly effectively expiring(Bulls can renounce his rights and have no obligation.) It'd take something to get him, in addition to expirings. Probably a Mid to late 1st round pick.
Add those two together , and a Thomas + Salmons package deal would seem to take Expirings and that's it, unless other teams really value Thomas more than Hill.
Salmons is a better player than Jeffries, but Jeffries is a good defender(Though was over rated 5 years ago). The way the NY-Hou deal went down makes me think we wouldn't have to give up a first round pick to get those 2.
are the bucks willing to trade hakim warrick??
I don't get New York -- do they think McGrady will stay? Do they think he's much of a player anymore? I guess it's a small risk, generally, but that 2011 draft pick could be very high that they swap.
Jordan Hill? Gee New York, you could have had DeJuan Blair instead...
Hilarious. The Knicks two best players were at PF coming into the season. What do they draft: A pure PF, who they hoped could play centre. I liked Hill coming in as a solid role player, and bigs go high in the draft, but I wish NY had some semblance of planning(I know they wanted Curry, but still, NY is special. In a bad way)
well, not that I want to turn this discussion into a Knicks evaluation, but the pick of Hill wasn't without reason.
the cap situation and the 2010 plan made it more or less unavoidable, that they will lose Lee and Harrington.
to pick a PF (who has a lot of Amare in him, at least regarding size, athleticism and quickness) made sense.
of course they should have picked Jennings, who now looks like a steal when Hill looks like the bust of the draft.
but again, to find a D'Antoni system PF as possible (cheap) piece for the 2010-11 roster wasn't a hilarious plan at all.
My prediction for the trade deadline is Spurs getting Thomas and Salmons for Mason, Finley, Bonner and Mahinmi.
No pick?
I predict Mason to Memphis for some low salary like Lester Hudson, just has to be worth 500k to slide Mason into their cap.
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