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    Why NOT have a vote in the house?
    Don't need one tbh. Haven't for awhile.

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    I see vy65 straightened out the legal question(s), thanks... Hopefully some of the ignorants here that kept repeating stuff out of their asses thank him too for taking the time.
    It's amazing watching deranged partisans try to debate law on the level of someone like vy65 with complete obliviousness to how stupid he's making them look. But I am glad he took the time, because I learned some things too.

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    Don't need one tbh. Haven't for awhile.
    But, WHY would you NOT?

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    Why NOT have a vote in the house?

    they can have it right after trump releases his taxes

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    But, WHY would you NOT?
    BECAUSE they don't NEED to.

    Also makes it easy to troll Trump into multiple obstruction articles of impeachment.

    But stamp your feet about a nonissue. It's really all you got.

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    I kind of wish they would just to call his bluff. But he'll still refuse and obstruct.

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    I see vy65 straightened out the legal question(s), thanks... Hopefully some of the ignorants here that kept repeating stuff out of their asses thank him too for taking the time.

    This is a political process, as has been said over and over. Congress has ultimate authority in this process, and while I'm sure the executive will try to force things into the judicial (perhaps finding a friendly judge here or there), they should be short-lived, as there's a separation of powers issue at play here, and Congress is most definitely cons utionally allowed to check on the executive.

    Furthermore, as this involved a matter of national security, Totten likely applies and very likely overrides other privileges like attorney-client.
    vy drives the team 98 yards down the field, elnono comes in and vultures the 1 yard touchdown tbh...

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    Why NOT have a vote in the house?
    No real answer yet

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    Why have a vote when the rules don't call for one?

    Real answers only, please.

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    Pence aiming to release records of his own Ukraine calls

    https://apnews.com/e48c28cf0625430fa829431df3872ead

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    Exclusive poll: Most think Trump will be impeached and win 2020 reelection
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...020-reelection

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    You guize ...

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    I took a bunch of con law from some really preeminent guys. It’s frustrating seeing the level of thought and intellect that they put into their work and then seeing what passes as legal scholarship in the mainstream. I’m sure SR21 can relate.

    It’s like that Wittgenstein quote

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    Exclusive poll: Most think Trump will be impeached and win 2020 reelection
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...020-reelection


    We have an exclusive poll that only we can produce because we did not want to include anyone but special people.
    Not just anyone can poll like we can because we can exclude better than anyone else. Furthermore, you can’t get numbers like these just anywhere.

    Cool.

    .... les for fun.

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    I took a bunch of con law from some really preeminent guys. It’s frustrating seeing the level of thought and intellect that they put into their work and then seeing what passes as legal scholarship in the mainstream. I’m sure SR21 can relate.

    It’s like that Wittgenstein quote
    pepperdine is a pretty right leaning ins ution, but my profs did a pretty good job of just sticking to the case law when teaching it. for whatever reason, pepperdine broke up con law such that the first amendment was its own course, so we spent a full semester on that. i had the same prof for both, and he couldnt go a few days without reminding the class of back when he clerked for justice rehnquist

    but that emphasis on the first amendment is prob why i get so frustrated when i read all these articles about freedom of speech in the private sector

    i think one of the misconceptions is that in law school you just spend your time memorizing laws/statutes/codes

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    Trump is freaking out so much about impeachment he’s calling Mitch McConnell 3 times a day

    President Donald Trump and his team of White House advisers are starting to panic about whether Republicans will falter when it comes to impeachment.

    Trump has claimed that he welcomes impeachment,

    but his Twitter account shows another story.

    With his tweets and retweets more than doubling since the inquiry was announced,

    Trump appears to be spiraling into a meltdown with each new revelation.

    Trump has been lashing out at Republicans senators he thinks might be disloyal, something he’s done since the beginning of taking office. Now, however, he needs them.

    “Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner is seen by many aides as leading the impeachment strategy efforts.

    , though other officials said much of the response will be left to

    ‘Jay and Trey,’ a reference to Gowdy and Jay Sekulow, members of the outside legal team.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump-is-freaking-out-so-much-about-impeachment-hes-calling-mitch-mcconnell-3-times-a-day/



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    Trump is freaking out so much about impeachment he’s calling Mitch McConnell 3 times a day

    President Donald Trump and his team of White House advisers are starting to panic about whether Republicans will falter when it comes to impeachment.

    Trump has claimed that he welcomes impeachment,

    but his Twitter account shows another story.

    With his tweets and retweets more than doubling since the inquiry was announced,

    Trump appears to be spiraling into a meltdown with each new revelation.

    Trump has been lashing out at Republicans senators he thinks might be disloyal, something he’s done since the beginning of taking office. Now, however, he needs them.

    “Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner is seen by many aides as leading the impeachment strategy efforts.

    , though other officials said much of the response will be left to

    ‘Jay and Trey,’ a reference to Gowdy and Jay Sekulow, members of the outside legal team.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump-is-freaking-out-so-much-about-impeachment-hes-calling-mitch-mcconnell-3-times-a-day/


    He freaks out and melts down daily pretty well for a 70 something yo child.

    I wish he would just leave, but I really want the red team members backing this lunatic held to accounting for wtf they were thinking while backing him.

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    Why have a vote when the rules don't call for one?

    Real answers only, please.

    Let me rephrase. Why would it be advantageous for Pelosi to NOT have a vote?

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    vy drives the team 98 yards down the field, elnono comes in and vultures the 1 yard touchdown tbh...
    tbh, what vy did is educational and appreciated, and can be a thankless job here.

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    Let me rephrase. Why would it be advantageous for Pelosi to NOT have a vote?
    There's a number of political downsides to having the vote (chief among them the distraction once this gets approved along party lines), but more importantly, there's just simply nothing to gain for Pelosi by having it.

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    tbh, what vy did is educational and appreciated, and can be a thankless job here.
    reminds me of the post-2013 finals upstairs tbh, with bruno/chinook calmly talking about the salary cap situation, etc, while the trolls like greatyacht and skull-1 were just running around flinging everywhere

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    Let me rephrase. Why would it be advantageous for Pelosi to NOT have a vote?
    I just said it allows them to pile on the obstruction articles.

    Also since you guys have been told to stamp your little feet about it, a delay can provide cover for moderate Democrats. They can be the loudest about wanting a vote and take credit when it finally happens.

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    I took a bunch of con law from some really preeminent guys. It’s frustrating seeing the level of thought and intellect that they put into their work and then seeing what passes as legal scholarship in the mainstream. I’m sure SR21 can relate.

    It’s like that Wittgenstein quote
    Arguably, there's nothing more contemptuous to the Cons ution than the arguments in that letter. It should probably go down in history as how you royally take a on the Cons ution.

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    tbh, what vy did is educational and appreciated, and can be a thankless job here.
    What did he do? Post some legal argument in tortured english?

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    What did he do? Post some legal argument in tortured english?
    He patiently explained how impeachment works, what precedent is there for it, dispelled myths, and backed it up with case law.

    Taking the time to educate people is commendable, IMO.

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