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He wouldn't be any better off in Memphis though. It's not like he's going to start over Mike Conley or OJ Mayo. , he'd probably be sharing backup time with Jamaal Tinsley.
Yes, no pick.
With how desperate teams are trying to dump contracts, I don't think Spurs need to add a pick.
He wouldn't be any better off in Memphis though. It's not like he's going to start over Mike Conley or OJ Mayo. , he'd probably be sharing backup time with Jamaal Tinsley.
He wouldn't play point.
Memphis wants scoring off the bench, and Mason fits the bill. Plus their 3-point shooting has been terrible as well, according to a MEM radio host I heard on talking about MEM and the deadline on the radio yesterday. Their depth is so thin that their starting 5 has logged just about more minutes than anyone and the thought in MEM is that the heavy time has tired the team out and is part of why they're fading right now.
He basically said that the hot buzz the last 24 hours had been Roger Mason and that the Grizzlies were under the cap enough to just get him (according to ESPN they'd have to send a little back, but still).
right. he might not get tons of minutes, but he would get a lot more shots on the Grizzlies 2nd unit. outside Sam Young (who is a rookie and an average scorer at best) their 2nd unit doesn't have a scoring option at all.
question: would they be willing to talk about Sam Young in return? (like: Spurs send Mason and Ian for Young)
The Spurs are still intrigued by Thomas. They’ve had talks about moving Antonio McDyess(notes) and the remaining $7.5 million on his contract after this season to open minutes and create flexibility to possibly re-sign Thomas in the summer. Having to also take on Salmons, however, would likely be a deal-breaker. The two teams talked on Tuesday, but Chicago wasn’t in position to make a deal with Thomas until resolving negotiations with the Rockets.
The Spurs’ best chance to move McDyess, should it become necessary, would be to the Denver Nuggets. The Nuggets are interested in another big man for the playoffs, and McDyess has a history in Denver which would make him comfortable with the move.
The Nuggets have given up hope that they can acquire Thomas. Bulls general manager Gar Forman isn’t interested in expiring Denver contracts which won’t help them reach the playoffs, nor a draft pick that’ll likely be late in the draft. The Knicks still have interest with Thomas for Al Harrington(notes) but don’t have a draft pick to appease the Bulls.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
Salmons the deal breaker??? He should be the deal MAKER! ing idiotic of the front office.
re: MEM and Mason
The guy I heard (Eli Savoie) didn't say anything about the Grizzlies giving up anyone. He did add though that Memphis had 3 first rounders and would be willing give up one of the later ones to get a deal done (Lakers or Denver).
He did bring up Young though to illustrate how shallow they were and how he was their best bench scorer, which isn't good when an inconsistent rookie is filling that role. And Darrell Arthur coming back doesn't help because he's not a scorer.
And he emphasized that whoever they get to fill a scoring role needed to be an expiring contract.
So Mason fits the bill perfectly. The other name he dropped was Chris Douglas-Roberts, who would be a local favorite and has worn out his welcome in NJ, and Ronnie Brewer from a rumor earlier in the year.
And the reason MEM want a scoring threat this season so bad is to make the playoffs. The Grizzlies are finally making headway winning back the fans and considering that the Tigers are so down this year, now is the time to gain traction locally.
if Spurs can get rid of RM via Memphis (even win a pick that way) AND acquire Salmons for Bonner and Fin, this would still be a great move.
(even if it didn't bring in a big). saves about 3 million in taxes and 1 million in salaries.
If Spurs trade for Salmons and if Salmons doesn't opt out this summer, Spurs will spend $60M on 7 players (Parker, Hill, Salmons, Jefferson, Blair, McDyess and Duncan). If Spurs re-sign Ginobili and Thomas, spend a part of their MLE for Splitter and fill the roster with cheap contract (first round picks and min players), they could end up at $78M-$80M. With a luxury tax at $66M, it makes a lot of money to spend for the owners.
IMO, Spurs should do it:
- The situation could settle it self with Salmons not picking his option, Thomas not being worth being re-signed or SplitterSpurs again.
- If Spurs had to spend a lot of money next summer, it will mean that Thomas and Ginobili have been great, which means that Spurs were true contenders and in that case, spending money should be less difficult to swallow.
- It's only an one year investment.
It's not my money, but Spurs ownership should make a last relative small financial effort to give Duncan a legit shot at #5.
Last edited by Bruno; 02-17-2010 at 08:26 AM.
Agreed.
The Spurs have already committed two years in tax territory to try to get Duncan one more ring. As far as financial risk goes, Salmons is a fairly safe one.
If Memphis is ready to do a Mason for Hudson trade, it's very good news for Spurs.
Spurs could do a basic trade to save money for themselves but it won't help them on the court. However, they also could use that edge in a three team trade between Spurs, Memphis and a team in the luxury tax terrotory. If Spurs could offer a significant luxury tax reduction to a team over the threshold, they could get something good.
A Duncan and Thomas duo would be interesting, Thomas would bring alot of energy into the mix for the Spurs which McDyess isn't providing.
the Grizzlies cap space will be much courted, I wonder if they won't get some better offers in the next hours. I can see the Wizards jump in and offer Randy Foye for Lester Hudson. Wizards would get under the threshold, so this move would be worth about 7 million.
Memphis would get a somehow similar player like Mason, but much better and with more upside in most aspects of the game.
AND Foye will be a RFA this summer.
Mason isn't very good but he fits perfectly what Memphis needs. They need a guard and are one of the worst 3 point shooting team in the league.
It's possible that they get better offers for their cap space but Mason is still a quite good option for them.
Great posts in this thread. Thanks!
interesting is the Haslem part. if it's just this 3rd team, Spurs could jump in, take Haslem and send Mason to Miami and Bonner to Phoenix.Meanwhile, the Miami Heat are still working to put together a package for Stoudemire, although a source familiar with Pat Riley’s most recent offer says it doesn’t include Michael Beasley(notes). Miami failed in its attempt to enlist the Charlotte Bobcats as a partner to take on Udonis Haslem(notes) in a three-team trade.
The Heat could be willing to take on Jason Richardson’s(notes) contract, which has one year worth $14.4 million left after this season, for the chance to land Stoudemire to play alongside Dwyane Wade(notes)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
there were some reports, that Spurs have inquired about Haslem. so this makes some sense. but likely the Heat are asking for something like a 1st rounder in return.
I'm surprised about the J-Rich part. but maybe Miami thinks that the chance to keep Wade is to bring in talent first. can't see J-Rich fit well alongside Wade though.
Why Not?
When exactly close the trade deadline ?
Why?
Tomorrow at 3pm EST I believe.
Tomorrow, 2:00 PM San Antonio time
Tomorrow at Noon, Cali time.
Tomorrow @ 12pm Dubai time
Tomorrow @ 8pm London Time.
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