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This shows High IQ for Castle
How about coaches
Tactics
Strategy
Team management
Game adjustment
Offense
Defense
This shows High IQ for Castle
IQ is decision-making when the score is close, knowing when to be assertive and when to pass, shot tendencies, when to close out, when to foul, know how to use angles, knowing when to gamble for steals and not overdoing it
Skill is the number of ways one could score, footwork on offense, ballhandling ability, blocking without fouling, defending without fouling, defensive footwork against the ballhandler’s first step, pass anticipation on defense, making a pass no one else sees
Athleticism is how well they can create separation, how well they can take contact, whether they have absurd wingsize or standing reach that aids them in-game, lateral movement that gives the ability to stay in front of their man on defense, defensive versatility
with that said, I know you’re bringing this up because of Ace and it’s a list I made in five minutes. I’ll slightly adjust the one for Ace and maybe others later.
Ace
Low IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Do your own list for funsies mo7888
Last edited by Dejounte; 03-16-2025 at 11:47 AM.
You too SpursBills because I love seeing your draft takes
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this showcases why Kon’s athleticism is on par or better than Vassell’s
apparently Kon holds guys to 24% which I didn’t know. I knew he was an exceptional defender, just did not research how good on the stats side.
I don’t have too many issues with this.
Flagg and CMB are the two highest IQ defenders in this draft by a pretty significant margin I think. At the same time Flagg still has some issues with his handle relative to his size when you compare him to, say, college Tatum so I’d probably say he’s high IQ and medium skill.
KJ and Demin have major issues getting separation, especially Demin so I think his athleticism might be low.
Fleming - doesn’t have much of a handle or shot creation, and his 3s are almost exclusively catch and shoot, so he may actually be low skill although that’s not a high conviction take
The others I don’t have a strong opinion on or I don’t know enough about them to comment
I’d rather take Richardson than Kon.
Made adjustments… even throwing John B a bone here
Flagg
High IQ
Mid Skill
High Athleticism
Harper
High IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Ace
Low IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Edgecombe
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
High Athleticism
Kon
High IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Queen
Mid IQ
High Skill
Low Athleticism
Fleming
Mid IQ
Low Skill
High Athleticism
Tre Johnson
Low IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Kasparas
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
CMB
High IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Egor
High IQ
Mid Skill
Low Athleticism
Wolf
High IQ
Mid Skill
Low Athleticism
Riley
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Malauch
Mid IQ
Low Skill
High Athleticism
Carter Bryant
Low IQ
Mid Skill
High Athleticism
Newell
Low IQ
Low Skill
Mid Athleticism
de Larrea
Mid IQ
High Skill
Low Athleticism
Jase Richardson
High IQ
High Skill
Low Athleticism
Last edited by Dejounte; 03-16-2025 at 02:23 PM.
Kon is growing on me. Another plus defender would be so helpful.
So far Kon - March basketball play has earned him a lot of money he just had a very good game for Duke without Flagg 17pts and 8 rebounds in a very close game.
I actually really, really like Richardson. His size gives me Dillingham-like concerns though. But the more I watch, the more I see that he’s a sneaky defender like young Chris Paul. Chris Paul would be the perfect mentor for him. He offers no defensive versatility for the whole team though (like he couldn’t be matched up with guys much bigger than him for very long), which is why I rate him low on my Athleticism scale.
if the Spurs stay around the 10th pick, then I would not hate that pick at all. Kon would be gone by then, I believe. I like him much more than Fears.
on a side note, I like Carter Bryant much more than Newell.
Last edited by Dejounte; 03-16-2025 at 11:50 AM.
Richardson is having a Great month of basketball really dominating the whole month so far, but if we had not traded for Fox I would have considered him with our first pick but things have changed.
I have no problem with this selection. After the Top 4 which is the BPA, I would prioritize a BIG who can help Wemby in the paint, Queen, Wolf, Sorber. If I could get Goldin in the 2nd round or from undrafted would be great.
You don’t say “BPA after the top 4” and then say “I would go for a big” after… those statements contradict each other.
I gotcha... I was actually asking because of Kasparas. He's the best pick n roll guy in this draft. Nobody makes the pass to the roll guy like he can....so I was curious of your criteria..
I'll do a list on the players you did to see how they compare. It may be a few hours before I get to it though...
Eliminate the phrase ‘Which is the BPA,” and see if it reads any differently.You don’t say “BPA after the top 4” and then say “I would go for a big” after… those statements contradict each other.
Well, I have no problem admitting if I read that wrong tbh
I think this IQ/Skill/Athleticism approach Dejounte and I think the key is getting a guy who is high in at least one of those categories and having at least mid IQ.
I'd rather avoid guys who are all mids in the upper end of the lottery because they are... well, mid. Once you get to the back half of the lotto and beyond, you just gotta take what you can get I guess.
Warming up to Kon as well. Wasn't sure at first he would translate to the NBA or if the Duke situation was masking for him to a degree. He does seem to have some intrinsics that could be special. Spurs do need what he does best.
I might add one additional factor -- motor.
Flagg
High IQ
Mid Skill
High Athleticism
Harper
High IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Ace
Low IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Edgecombe
Mid IQ
Mid Skill (but progressing)
High Athleticism
Kon
High IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Queen
Mid IQ
High Skill
Low Athleticism
Fleming
Mid IQ
Low Skill
High Athleticism
Kasparas
Mid IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
CMB
High IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Egor
High IQ
Mid Skill (I'd go higher if he could shoot)
Low Athleticism
Wolf
High IQ
Mid Skill
Low Athleticism
Malauch
Mid IQ
Low Skill
High Athleticism
Carter Bryant
Mid IQ (IQ and Skill are tough for me here because his mind is child-like to me..he's progressing and I project that he'll get there on at least skill)
Mid Skill
High Athleticism
Newell
Mid IQ
Low Skill
High Athleticism
These updated IQ/Skill/Ath lists that ya'll are doing are coincidentally lining up with who I want to draft (all of the High IQ players):
Flagg, Harper, Kon, Egor, Wolf, and McNeeley (although McNeeley is not on y'alls lists)... all depending on where we end up.
EDIT: I just feel so done with dumb players.
Fleming is definitely low skill on offense imo. He seems to have a solid catch and shoot 3pt shot. he is solid at making off-ball cuts and is a solid roll man. if he's not finishing with authority at the rim, his touch is quite poor. and yeah... handles, passing, shot creation, shot variety, all low tier. but hes still a very active defender and physical rebounder. for a team like us that is miserable at boxing out, he actually does so quite well
id say he's medium IQ and low skill on offense, while being medium IQ and medium skill on defense. despite his size, he moves on the perimeter pretty well and defends guys smaller than him quite a bit
there are a lot of holes to pick in his game, i just think for what the spurs need from a complementary big to victor, he is worth the shot. we've seen sochan mesh better with victor by playing closer to the rim, more of a cutter and restricted area finisher. transition lob threat when vic runs the preak. we need less of a facilitator/handler. and then defensively, somebody who can comfortably defend on the perimeter, but can also be a good weakside helper if vic has to contest a shot, somebody to help vic out and secure rebounds, etc
btw Queen and Wolf playing each other was quite entertaining. neither could really slow the other. and neither provides much at all on help defense.
Precisely
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