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  1. #1901
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    ^Thanks for the info on AC, I've read some different reviews on it so far-seems to be no real consensus if it's a good game, great, not that good, etc.

    Right now I've got enough $ to get 2 new games. Mas Effect is definitely one, and still trying to decide between COD4 and AC, still up in the air-any suggestions from someone who has COD4 and AC and has played both?
    I havent played COD4, but I just bought it yesterday. I am getting my basement finished right now, so I have no PC. Get CoD4. The multiplayer alone is worth it.

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    anybody have an unscratched disc 1 for civilization IV? apparently the version i bought has a history of scratching disc 1 while it's in its case. i'd just need disc 1 because discs 2 and 3 are in perfect condition and i have my own cd key.

  3. #1903
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    Has anyone played Super Mario Galaxy yet?

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    Has anyone played Super Mario Galaxy yet?
    That better be the best thing since '64.

  5. #1905
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Ok, this is probably going to make me look like an idiot, but, what's the difference between a 360 Arcade and all the other variations? I'm saving up for a 360, but I'm not sure what to get.
    360 Arcade: $279.99
    - No XBox360 games
    - No HDMI cable (has HDMI though)
    - No hard drive (256 MB mem card)
    - Composite-only cables
    + Wireless Controller
    + 5 XBox Live Arcade games

    360 Premium: $349.99
    - No HDMI cable (has an HDMI port though)
    + Composite / HD-Component cable
    + 20 GB hard drive
    + Wireless Controller
    + headset
    + comes with Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (so-so game) and Forza Motorsport 2 (haven't played it, but it's supposed to be really good)
    + 1 XBox-Live Arcade Game

    360 Elite: $449.99
    - No XBox360 games
    + HDMI / Composite / HD-Component Cable
    + 120 GB Hard Drive
    + Wireless Controller
    + headset
    + 1 month XBox-Live Gold
    + 1 XBox-Live Arcade game

    To me, the Pro is by far the best deal. Having a 20GB hard drive allows you to download demos. If you're not interested in demos and in having tons of XBox-Live Arcade games, then the Arcade isn't a bad deal. The 120GB drive in the elite seems like overkill to me, and is useful only if you wants to have a bunch of demos, movies, or music on your 360.

    The XBox360 really should be played on an HD display. Component is the worst of the HD outputs, but it still kills composite. HDMI or VGA is the way to go, as either produces an obviously better picture than does component. All three can output to HDMI or VGA, though you need to buy the cables (except in the case of wanting HDMI in the Elite).

  6. #1906
    You Belinelli Believe It! dougp's Avatar
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    360 Arcade: $279.99
    - No XBox360 games
    - No HDMI cable (has HDMI though)
    - No hard drive (256 MB mem card)
    - Composite-only cables
    + Wireless Controller
    + 5 XBox Live Arcade games

    360 Premium: $349.99
    - No HDMI cable (has an HDMI port though)
    + Composite / HD-Component cable
    + 20 GB hard drive
    + Wireless Controller
    + headset
    + comes with Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (so-so game) and Forza Motorsport 2 (haven't played it, but it's supposed to be really good)
    + 1 XBox-Live Arcade Game

    360 Elite: $449.99
    - No XBox360 games
    + HDMI / Composite / HD-Component Cable
    + 120 GB Hard Drive
    + Wireless Controller
    + headset
    + 1 month XBox-Live Gold
    + 1 XBox-Live Arcade game

    To me, the Pro is by far the best deal. Having a 20GB hard drive allows you to download demos. If you're not interested in demos and in having tons of XBox-Live Arcade games, then the Arcade isn't a bad deal. The 120GB drive in the elite seems like overkill to me, and is useful only if you wants to have a bunch of demos, movies, or music on your 360.

    The XBox360 really should be played on an HD display. Component is the worst of the HD outputs, but it still kills composite. HDMI or VGA is the way to go, as either produces an obviously better picture than does component. All three can output to HDMI or VGA, though you need to buy the cables (except in the case of wanting HDMI in the Elite).
    With the announcement of the XBox Classics - my 120gb HD is looking better every day

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    With the announcement of the XBox Classics - my 120gb HD is looking better every day
    XBox360 Classics are downloadable?

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    http://kotaku.com/gaming/freebies/xb...nne-322129.php

    Starting on Dec. 4, all Xbox LIVE members will receive a free system update with a host of new features and enhancements. Included in this update will be the launch of Xbox Originals, which, for the first time, will enable consumers to download and own full Xbox games, such as "Halo," "Psychonauts," "Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge" and "Fable," among others, directly to their Xbox 360. This new service will launch with an array of blockbuster les spanning the most popular genres from action-adventure to classic role-playing games.

    With no disc necessary, and at just 1,200 Microsoft Points per game, Xbox LIVE members can easily rediscover these hit les, or check out a game they missed the first time around. This launch lineup is only the beginning, as Xbox 360 owners can expect to see a growing catalog of Xbox games to download and own over the coming year.
    There will also be a free XBL game starting tomorrow.

  9. #1909
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    360 Arcade: $279.99
    - No XBox360 games
    - No HDMI cable (has HDMI though)
    - No hard drive (256 MB mem card)
    - Composite-only cables
    + Wireless Controller
    + 5 XBox Live Arcade games

    360 Premium: $349.99
    - No HDMI cable (has an HDMI port though)
    + Composite / HD-Component cable
    + 20 GB hard drive
    + Wireless Controller
    + headset
    + comes with Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (so-so game) and Forza Motorsport 2 (haven't played it, but it's supposed to be really good)
    + 1 XBox-Live Arcade Game

    360 Elite: $449.99
    - No XBox360 games
    + HDMI / Composite / HD-Component Cable
    + 120 GB Hard Drive
    + Wireless Controller
    + headset
    + 1 month XBox-Live Gold
    + 1 XBox-Live Arcade game

    To me, the Pro is by far the best deal. Having a 20GB hard drive allows you to download demos. If you're not interested in demos and in having tons of XBox-Live Arcade games, then the Arcade isn't a bad deal. The 120GB drive in the elite seems like overkill to me, and is useful only if you wants to have a bunch of demos, movies, or music on your 360.

    The XBox360 really should be played on an HD display. Component is the worst of the HD outputs, but it still kills composite. HDMI or VGA is the way to go, as either produces an obviously better picture than does component. All three can output to HDMI or VGA, though you need to buy the cables (except in the case of wanting HDMI in the Elite).
    Alright, thanks a lot....I'll probably go with the middle one, but I'll most likely end up getting it used. I just want to play Dynasty Warriors: Gundam.

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    You Belinelli Believe It! dougp's Avatar
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    Alright, thanks a lot....I'll probably go with the middle one, but I'll most likely end up getting it used. I just want to play Dynasty Warriors: Gundam.
    It sucks ... seriously, it's terrible.

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    It sucks ... seriously, it's terrible.
    Meh. I'm a huge fan of Dynasty Warriors, and an absolute fanatical zealot, when it comes to Gundam. I'll give it a shot. It can't be worse than PS3's Crossfire.

  12. #1912
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    Unfortunately repe ive. AC actually gets compared to Hitman in the sense that it is very cool to stealth kill and do all the neceassary extra junk to set up the hit.

    But its always easier to go guns blazing and kill everything with a heartbeat.

    I have played video games since I can remember. I have found my tastes have changed completely (obvious, I know). I get more enjoyment from games that create worlds. Enviroments that are more like a novel than a set piece. A living, breathing populace of ancient time and all the work the devs had to pour into just that ONE facet of the game. The cracks in the walls, the nooks in the corners, the beautiful sunrise and sunset, for me now, thats what makes a game worth it.

    AC is exceptional in that respect. Ever want to walk the streets of Ancient Jerusalem? This is your best chance, sans a time machine. The fluid motion of every movement of your character and the characters around you.

    The verticality of the city(s) you roam. The "free-running" as it is coined, is awesome and completely enjoyable in and of itself.

    There are flaws, but I have resigned to the fact there is no such thing as a perfect game. The closest I have ever known was GTA: San Andreas. And even that was fatally flawed.

    I want games with total and utter freedom, consequences that result of that freedom and the enviroment to enjoy both aspects.

    AC delivers on two of those. The 3rd (consequences) hasnt been done in any game ever in my life with anything nearing what I would call success. But, there is hope. At the very least, game devs are aspiring to achieve some level of consequence as it seems to be a selling point in a lot of games (none of them have delivered, none will for quite some time).

    Sorry for the expose'.
    Thanks. I was wondering if this game was worth it and now it seems like it is.

  13. #1913
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    Apparently Assassins Creed for PC doesn't come out until Feb.

    :

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    Unfortunately repe ive. AC actually gets compared to Hitman in the sense that it is very cool to stealth kill and do all the neceassary extra junk to set up the hit.

    But its always easier to go guns blazing and kill everything with a heartbeat.

    I have played video games since I can remember. I have found my tastes have changed completely (obvious, I know). I get more enjoyment from games that create worlds. Enviroments that are more like a novel than a set piece. A living, breathing populace of ancient time and all the work the devs had to pour into just that ONE facet of the game. The cracks in the walls, the nooks in the corners, the beautiful sunrise and sunset, for me now, thats what makes a game worth it.

    AC is exceptional in that respect. Ever want to walk the streets of Ancient Jerusalem? This is your best chance, sans a time machine. The fluid motion of every movement of your character and the characters around you.

    The verticality of the city(s) you roam. The "free-running" as it is coined, is awesome and completely enjoyable in and of itself.

    There are flaws, but I have resigned to the fact there is no such thing as a perfect game. The closest I have ever known was GTA: San Andreas. And even that was fatally flawed.

    I want games with total and utter freedom, consequences that result of that freedom and the enviroment to enjoy both aspects.

    AC delivers on two of those. The 3rd (consequences) hasnt been done in any game ever in my life with anything nearing what I would call success. But, there is hope. At the very least, game devs are aspiring to achieve some level of consequence as it seems to be a selling point in a lot of games (none of them have delivered, none will for quite some time).

    Sorry for the expose'.
    Oblivion. Not a perfect 10 but with PC mods and completely open world it is fun.

    Also good MMORPG like Darkfall Online if you want a massive multiplayer online type of game. Nothing gay like World of Warcraft, but these types of games are the pinnacle of what you just described.

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    is AC playable online

  16. #1916
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    I see the promos for Rock Band came out during the Spurs/Mavs game last night. I just wish they would've shown some gameplay.

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    What do you guys think, should I buy COD4 or AC?

  18. #1918
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    CoD4 if you play online. If you do play online, this shouldnt even be a question.

    AC if you dont play online. Seriously.

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    CoD4 if you play online. If you do play online, this shouldnt even be a question.

    AC if you dont play online. Seriously.

    AC isnt playable online?

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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Oblivion. Not a perfect 10 but with PC mods and completely open world it is fun.

    Also good MMORPG like Darkfall Online if you want a massive multiplayer online type of game. Nothing gay like World of Warcraft, but these types of games are the pinnacle of what you just described.
    I know this thread is 70+ pages long, but we discussed Oblivion at length earlier. Love that game. But it still didnt have consequence from actions.

    Oblivion is a good example of a game that could have done it. With all the freedom it does have, there was some real opportunity to do some innovative things. But I understand the plot and structure becomes very difficult to execute when there are literally hundreds (maybe thousands) of different ways the player can get thru the game.

    In Oblivion, you were/are a world changer. Single-handedly closing the Gates of Oblivion is a pretty big ing deal in that game's world. Unfortunately, technology hasnt caught up to imagination....yet.

    5 years ago, hardware outpaced software by a very wide margin. The baddest-ass PCs werent even being tested in the slightest by the current gen games and software.

    Now, the software is closing the gap. Crysis being the new benchmark of "Holy , my rig ing blows. Time for an upgrade."

    At some point, I believe, the industry will reach a maximum on the GFX orgy its been in for...10 years. Games dont look much better than Crysis, its near photorealistic if you have the machine to push it.

    I think once that time comes, when its obvious to all developers that the "arms race", so to speak, doesnt revolve around whose bouncing, busty babe looks better in HD, they'll return to the core of earlier gaming days.

    The days when the hardware was really, really limited. So you had to focus on gameplay and execution. Games like Actraiser, Ultima, the early Final Fantasies, Dragon Quest, System Shock, Doom II, etc.

    There will be an acceptable Engine (or maybe a few Engines) that is/are malleable and scalable to any design and genre. The mechanics will greatly differ, but the presentation capability and hardware needed to do so will be the same.

    Will it be id with their Unreal Engine? Or Valve and the upcoming new Source Engine? A newcomer like Crytek? Who knows, but it will happen in the next 5 years, IMO.

    The development time for Crysis is an indicator of the flawed design process in video games. It took Crytek something like 6 years to develop the game, 4-5 of which were spent purely on Engine creation and optimization. Only 1-2 years were actually spent on the gameplay, the story, the mechanics and design. They make something look beautiful, then backfill it with content.

    Should be the other way around, or a completely different approach where the Engine is prefab and the devs concentrate on "The Game".

    I understand why it is the way it is. Its an arms race....for now. Games are bought and sold (majority speaking) on its merits in the graphics department. Gameplay takes a serious backseat in most every game produced (you know what I mean, BioShock, Oblivion, et all are exceptions...1000s of games are released a year...how many of them did you buy?).

    The gaming audience is only getting older. And it will progressively get older and older and older. I have been gaming my whole life (Im 27) and my tastes have changed incredibly. I assume I am not the only one and the devs are starting to realize this slowly.

    Thats why games are aspiring to be "experinces" rather than "toys". Its media entertainment, and at some point it will be as varied and wide-ranging as movies and music. The technology for recording music and filming movies hasnt changed in years (with some notable, avant garde excpetions, obviously). Film is film, tape is tape. Not so with video games as of yet.

    But soon, I think. Sure, the Engines I speak of will evolve with new standards and benchmarks ultimately becoming more and more capable of near-reality resolution, but ultimately, that task will be left to the Engine's creators. Using the Engine will be the work of the devs.

    At that point, games will become much more than what they are. Music and movies have always had something that games still do not. The human element. But at what point does that line get blurred, with movies like Final Fantasy: Spirits Within and the new one Beowulf? I personally enjoys the FF movie, obviously havent seen Beowulf. But this is just the beginning. Those capabilities will become less fiction and more reality in 10 years.

    Can you imagine what gaming is going to look like in 20 years? I certainly cant. I remember playing my Atari 2600 during a session of Mountain King and thinking "It doesnt get any cooler than this." So, do I now play Crysis and think "Wow, this is the penultimate gaming benchmark!" No, I dont. Its the current benchmark, soon to be eclipsed by something even better.

    I await that day more than today.

  21. #1921
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    AC isnt playable online?
    Sadly, I dont have the answer. I dont believe it is.

    Regardless, what I was trying to say was, CoD4 is the ultimate right now. The replayability of CoD4 is limitless, whereas AC is more or less static, and if it does have a MP component, it will feel tacked on as an afterthought.

    Whereas CoD4 was developed with one thing and one thing only on the devs mind...multiplayer gaming. Sure, the single player campaign is something to behold (so I hear), but the MP is where this game will shine, shine, shine.

    Thats why I asked, do you frequently play online games? Do you like FPS games?

    If so, and your money is limited to one game and one game only, there isnt much debate which you should get. CoD4 multiplayer will entertain you for years, whereas AC is maximum a couple months (thats being generous).

  22. #1922
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    First Rock Band Review:

    Official Xbox Magazine - 9.5

    http://www.oxmonline.com/article/rev...lery/rock-band

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    as far as the "should i buy CoD4 or AC", like mentioned already if you have xbox live then definately CoD4 is a buy. The Campaign is awesome. the way the game starts it got me pumpd and i was like"now thats how u start a ing game!" id go into it more but i wouldnt want to ruin anything. the ghillie suit stage is really cool. and a lot more

    AC i just rented and ive just gotten to Jerusalem. thx for mozilla spell check on that one. but yeah, AC is a beautiful game, and im getting into it. the sword fighting is neat and the leap of Faiths are pretty cool.

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    First Rock Band Review:

    Official Xbox Magazine - 9.5

    http://www.oxmonline.com/article/rev...lery/rock-band
    That review was pretty convincing.
    I'll probably rent it just for the drums. I'm not that interested in singing or playing bass.

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    I'm FINALLY playing Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction tonight, and it's pretty much rockin' my socks off. I just love this franchise.

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