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Can definitely see him drop as some players get more shine. We'll see.
So you can’t make a compelling argument to support your stance. Never seen that on this forum before
Can definitely see him drop as some players get more shine. We'll see.
Where do you see him dropping to?
The Spurs will have to take him with the 9th pick. I'd rather see other options than him at 9.
he can shoot( the % are low because he was not in a good team imo) and he is a good defender for sure. Attacking the rim could be a concern in the league tough he finished well near the rim with Wisconsin.
With a draft rich in bigs and big wings, this place would ing melt if we drafted any guard other than Ivey.
What stance? I didn't take a stance...I simply asked question about what his value was in regard to picks in this draft...So you can’t make a compelling argument to support your stance. Never seen that on this forum before
Yup, he's quite capable a finisher. I really like him.
In principle, I agree. But say a deal comes through with Charlotte along the lines discussed and we also landed the 13th pick, I'd be totally fine using one of the picks on Johnny Davis. If he extends his range a little bit I think he could make a really good pro. Also really like Dyson Daniels. But yes, that's contingent on addressing the frontcourt issue first.
Melt anyways
Putting it in the form of a question doesn't change what you were implying. I assume you're smart enough to know that Keldon isn't bringing a top 10 pick and certainly not a top 3... even if you attach 9 to Keldon you're not getting into the top 4.
What would be the purpose of moving him for a draft pick? You're going to have to roll the dice and invest 3 years into developing a player that is more likely to end up like Lonnie than Keldon.
There's no logic in it.
Now if you moved Keldon for an equally impactful piece that comes with a pick then you've got a debate or if you move him with a one of our picks to level up to a proven player. Otherwise it makes no sense.
As a 22 year old Keldon average 21 points a game after the all star break last season and would absolutely get the Spurs into the top 4. I still wouldn't do it. Much like trading away Jak it set's back the contending clock.
I would trade Keldon for a top 4. Banchero, J Ivey , J Smith, Sharpe, Mathurin all have higher potential and will make the Spurs better. The Spurs are no where near contending with the current roster. It should be a three year plan and it's going to take some turnaround in personnel.
No shot in the Spurs would get into the top 4 for Keldon. He's a league average player whose ceiling is high-end starter.
I'd do it for Banchero only. He's high floor and high ceiling.
He's only 22 and his rookie season was cut short because of Covid. People are too enamored with potential in some of these prospects. Potential versus actual results are two different things as we learned with Lonnie Walker.
As a spur fan you're over rating Keldon.
You need to factor in bust rate with these prospects. No way does everyone reach full potential and some of them might be flat out busts.
The players I listed don't have high bust potential and have higher ceilings than Keldon.
As much as I like Keldon, I'd make a trade to be able to draft those guys you mentioned if that is what it took. Ivey is the guy I want, but all those guys you listed have good potential.
I think Johnny Davis could be that backcourt mate the spurs always wanted DWhite to be for DJ Tbh
I don’t think Dj is your answer at point guard.
Yeah, Keldon isn't bringing you anything worth dealing, not alone anyway.
The only thing that will get you into the top 4 is a high level multi selection All Star.
I didn't imply .. you can deflect if you want but the fact is you didn't read the post fully or couldn't comprehend it... you're running off at the mouth about a whole lot of things I didn't bring up...and you still haven't answered the initial question... which was...."What kind of pick would Keldon bring if we chose to move him"...
And what's the logic in asking the question? Well, most people like to evaluate all of their options before they make any kind of move....Maybe trading him doesn't make sense... then again maybe it does in certain scenarios....but you can't make an intelligent decision without evaluation first....
Kuminga was never in the fabled top 5 from last year. It was really a top 4 + Suggs (Cunningham, Green, Mobley, Barnes)
I still think the Keegan hype has firmly put him a top of the next tier behind this year's "top 4," and not for bad reasons. I suppose one of Sharpe, Griffin, or Mathurin can catch him at the combine but there remain a lot of question marks attached to each thus far. I just can't see an offensively challenged Duren climbing that high, even with a solid combine.
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