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If you’re taking a non shooter he better be absolutely special elsewhere to justify it. Collier isn’t.
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If you’re taking a non shooter he better be absolutely special elsewhere to justify it. Collier isn’t.
Yeah, we simply can't afford to have any more bad shooters on perimeter positionso.
Thompson brothers were way more hyped than anyone in this class and look at how they've been doing as perimeter players with no range.
Bad defenders should be avoided, but having bad shooters is even worse in today's league.
Ugh drop to 4 or 5 and both Risacher and Williams are probably both off the table. No way I'm gambling Buzelis or Holland there.
in this scenario I’d probably use the Chicago pick to trade up to get the guy you want if possible
At least the Thompsons are monster athletes so you can see a high ceiling with them. Collier, Buzelis, Topic though?
I've got Matas at #6, so I'm relatively comfortable there, Holland i don't have top 10. That said, when I'm talking about doubling our odds, I'm talking about 2 of Cody, Risacher, and Matas. If Risacher and Williams are both gone that strategy wouldn't really apply.Ugh drop to 4 or 5 and both Risacher and Williams are probably both off the table. No way I'm gambling Buzelis or Holland there.
Here is the list of starting PGs in 2024. The path for a PG smaller than 6’2” + 0” wingspan isn’t great (e.g., Dillingham). I’m sure there are backups I’m missing, but I’d rather just roll with Jones. As someone else said, we’ll see what he measures at during the combine.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/...6a89962fb30bc7
Read somewhere that Hollands stock has taken a hit in part because he is nowhere near the listed 6’8” and he plays more of a PF game right now (with poor shooting).
Where are you seeing his wingspan is the same as his height?
PG rankings?
Opens up page: barely any of these are PGs.
You could ask yourself in a vacuum if being french (Risacher, Sarr or even Tidjane Salaun another projected lottery guy) is a factor with Wemby in, for acclimatation and complicity, but Livio and Nando say hi!
So I guess it's a hard no. Although to be fair, none of these two had the potential the former 3, or lets say 2, have.
That's pretty much it..
Man are these SFs unimpressive. I get pulling two of them, but it's because they're so flawed and crappy.
Risacher - The top so far, possible movement shooter, big jump in efficiency this year, upright stance, only straight-line movements, questionable defensive metrics, surprisingly poor free throw shooting, no rebounding, hard to imagine him as more than a role-player.
Holland - High energy, low-feel, horrible offensive and defensive advanced metrics, bad shooter, maybe more of a PF, probably lost a year of coaching due to Ignite, possibly a good defender, Shawn Marion without shooting, among the youngest in the draft.
Buzelis - Decent lateral movement but skinny, good weak-side shotblocker, terrible shooter from range, bad free throw shooter, decent rebounder, doesn't do much else, probably lost a year of development with Ignite, seems to get away with comps to Franz Wagner but has a negative assist/turnover ratio.
Williams - Great shooting stats, hits high percentage inside but on very difficult shots because he has no burst and little athleticism, rangy and long, can circulate the ball, poor defensively, not a rebounder, bad free throw shooter, eating off the fact he has a successful brother.
For a class supposedly strong with point guards, the point guards have largely underwhelmed. They've been replaced by underwhelming small forwards.
Definitely flawed.... you could also use the same argument for drafting Topic and Dilly(2 PG's). Basically, it comes down to your opinion of which position has more talent and which is more valuable positionally. I think the sf position is more valuable than the pg position in todays game, so I lean in there.
Kinda hoping to get a backup C who can block some shots. I heard one scout talk about a good amount of value bigs at the end of the first / beginning of second. Maybe someone nice falls at #33 - Edey, Missi, Ware, Chomiche, Ivisic, Ugonna. Looking to get value there, and keep our top 10 picks for wings/pg. (Thats if they keep #33, which they probably wont)
You mean more or less flaws than Amen or Ausar?
I mean I've seen more from Risacher at 18 vs. grown men than I might in the Thompson bros' whole career.
It’ll be interesting to see if Sarr slips and there when Spurs pick (2/3). Would they really take him?
Gotta give a shout out to another unimpressive SF - Dalton Knecht. He's unimpressive cause he's almost 23 years old. Other than that, pretty impressive.
If you think he's Evan Mobley, but I don't think he's Evan Mobley. Mobley was actually a better outside shooter by percentage in college than Sarr is now and supposedly that's a selling point.
if they’re convinced topic/castle/Sarr are truly special elsewhere that you can look past the shooting I’d say go for it but you need a really high confidence level before pulling that kind of trigger.
Now, other than that Curry guy, how many have, even in this gogo scoring era( call it 2015 to now) led their teams to les? The trend is to big wing playmakers, your LeBrons, Durants, Gianniss, and Kawhis. They win the les. Little guys exist, but they are complementary players by and large.
Disclaimer: I like Dillingham, and was on him early. I think he could be a solid #2 with his varied skill set.
Sarr, Rich, Cody, Buzelis, Holland or Salaun, I would definitely go for someone from that group, Topic would be the only guard I would be looking at and even then without confidence.
Fred Van Vleet? Just off the top of my head. Why are you asking for someone who lead a team to a le rather than vital pieces?
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