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    in liar...you're like 88 years old...limp noodle is only going for pissing
    If I beat it with a rubber mallet & commit for 90+ minutes I can get it to burp a bit.

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    Having children out of wedlock and single parent households can create outliers. Wages have never been higher and jobs just as prevalent. The ability and willpower to spend frugally is something that is passed down from the parents.
    Let's not lie now.

    https://imgur.com/a/EKREMns#bLKD19b

    Median rent is at an all-time high, though.



    From 2014, but current, the national average is 959.00 for a one bedroom apartment.

    Let's look at housing prices. Way outpaced inflation.



    It's not "bad decisions" that is putting people into paycheck-to-paycheck status (in fact, birth rate is all-time lows, even for Messicans), it's lower wages combined with a higher cost of living, while Jeff Bezos swims around in his tens of billions of dollars. Trickle-down indeed. The richest are richer than at anytime since the robber baron age, but wage growth and net worth has slowed for the middle/lower classes.

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    Let's not lie now.

    https://imgur.com/a/EKREMns#bLKD19b

    Median rent is at an all-time high, though.



    From 2014, but current, the national average is 959.00 for a one bedroom apartment.

    Let's look at housing prices. Way outpaced inflation.



    It's not "bad decisions" that is putting people into paycheck-to-paycheck status (in fact, birth rate is all-time lows, even for Messicans), it's lower wages combined with a higher cost of living, while Jeff Bezos swims around in his tens of billions of dollars. Trickle-down indeed. The richest are richer than at anytime since the robber baron age, but wage growth and net worth has slowed for the middle/lower classes.
    So we're blaming Jeff Bezos and/or his family for making good decisions on the open market? Some ham and egger can make $12/hr flipping burgers at Burger King and make ends meet easily. When I was 16, I was making $6.50/hr and able to maintain my vehicle w/o any help from my parents. Wages have almost doubled since then, and all I hear about is how we need a "living wage" or a universal income. You want to see inflation/hyper-inflation and recessions then increase wages to a mandatory $15/hr. and watch small business fall apart and big business replace their employees with automated self checkout services. You want to tax the rich man for making good decisions and apply a band-aid to those who make bad decisions. Everyone wants to be Robin Hood in the virtue signal era. The middle class will always be the backbone of a stable healthy economy; quit ing with it.

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    So we're blaming Jeff Bezos and/or his family for making good decisions on the open market? Some ham and egger can make $12/hr flipping burgers at Burger King and make ends meet easily. When I was 16, I was making $6.50/hr and able to maintain my vehicle w/o any help from my parents. Wages have almost doubled since then, and all I hear about is how we need a "living wage" or a universal income. You want to see inflation/hyper-inflation and recessions then increase wages to a mandatory $15/hr. and watch small business fall apart and big business replace their employees with automated self checkout services. You want to tax the rich man for making good decisions and apply a band-aid to those who make bad decisions. Everyone wants to be Robin Hood in the virtue signal era. The middle class will always be the backbone of a stable healthy economy; quit ing with it.
    Gov't just wants to get their hands on it, get a cut of it. The s. So, they can have it, spend it, dole it out at their discretion. Be big shots with another man's money, sweat & labor.

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    Is this really happening? Donald Trump is a 100% moron and i can't believe a dummy like that is our president, the guy is an embarrashment to America.

    The dude is actually stupid, a compete idiot and he is getting worst. BUT....please don't impeach this re . lets all watch him get totally destroyed come election day, I want to see this freak get beat down like a dog.

    People are starting to really unload on the dummy, it's about time.

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    Gov't just wants to get their hands on it, get a cut of it. The s. So, they can have it, spend it, dole it out at their discretion. Be big shots with another man's money, sweat & labor.
    Yep, just like that Maduro fellow in Venezuela. It's all fun and games until you run out of the rich man's money, and people are eating each others pets waiting in bread lines. No more big shot. "Living wage" is a pig with lipstick.

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    Is this really happening? Donald Trump is a 100% moron and i can't believe a dummy like that is our president, the guy is an embarrashment to America.

    The dude is actually stupid, a compete idiot and he is getting worst. BUT....please don't impeach this re . lets all watch him get totally destroyed come election day, I want to see this freak get beat down like a dog.

    People are starting to really unload on the dummy, it's about time.
    Yep, you'll have it all put back the way it was in a fortnight. Back to the same Tired Old Bag.

    But, by God, you'll have him at (45) & that's forever, daddy.

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    So we're blaming Jeff Bezos and/or his family for making good decisions on the open market? Some ham and egger can make $12/hr flipping burgers at Burger King and make ends meet easily. When I was 16, I was making $6.50/hr and able to maintain my vehicle w/o any help from my parents. Wages have almost doubled since then, and all I hear about is how we need a "living wage" or a universal income. You want to see inflation/hyper-inflation and recessions then increase wages to a mandatory $15/hr. and watch small business fall apart and big business replace their employees with automated self checkout services. You want to tax the rich man for making good decisions and apply a band-aid to those who make bad decisions. Everyone wants to be Robin Hood in the virtue signal era. The middle class will always be the backbone of a stable healthy economy; quit ing with it.
    no they haven't. Do you not understand what inflation means? Another graph. Wages dead flat for 20 years.



    No, we're blaming Bezos and the so-called benevolent "captains of industry" because the biggest expense for any corporation are labor costs, which they cut/lay off in order to boost share value since a corporation's first priority is to make profit for their shareholders. We can easily correlate when the concept of shareholder primacy came into being and the stagnant middle class wages thereafter.

    You overrate the automation apocalypse. Quit reading pop-tech rags and the like. Self-checkouts have always been a disaster. Self-driving cars are decades away. And vaporware like robo chefs, robo maids, robo bartenders, robo security guards, and drone delivery are contrived bull . But I do agree a Federal minimum wage of whatever is unwise since cost of living varies by state.

    In any event, I have the clinical trial on my side here. Remember the period when "America was great!" Yeah, taxes on the wealthy much higher then, middle class much stronger. If you want to blame the outsourcing of factory work on the middle-class's decline, fair enough. But guess who outsourced the labor? Your benevolent captains-of-industry doing so in order to cut down labor costs.

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    Gov't just wants to get their hands on it, get a cut of it. The s. So, they can have it, spend it, dole it out at their discretion. Be big shots with another man's money, sweat & labor.
    "I don't w*rk. It's my religion."

    If you're on veteran's disability (which you deserve, since being drafted into war against your will is highly immoral), those benefits are being paid for by "another man's money."

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    A recession will happen. The inverted yield curve that has predicted every recession is sounding the alarm bells. Not sure how bad it will be. Probably not 2008 levels. What might save this idiot's ass is that the market sometimes es for a few months/year or more before plummeting, so he might have a healthy market in support of his 2020 campaign.

    That said, I'm of the belief that presidents don't have as much control over the economy as perceived, but his trade war spat isn't helping. I hope he continues it since I want to see those "farmers" (who are getting billion dollar welfare checks) eat . Them going out of business, suffering profit losses, is their punishment for voting for such a moron. No sympathy:

    Iowa farmer Tim Bardole survived years of low crop prices and rising costs by cutting back on fertilizer and herbicides and fixing broken-down equipment rather than buying new. When President Donald Trump’s trade war with China made a miserable situation worse, Bardole used up any equity his operation had and started investing in hogs in hopes they’ll do better than crops.

    A year later, the dispute is still raging and soybeans hit a 10-year-low. But Bardole says he supports his president more today than he did when he cast a ballot for Trump in 2016, skeptical he would follow through on his promises.

    “He does really seem to be fighting for us,” Bardole says, “even if it feels like the two sides are throwing punches and we’re in the middle, taking most of the hits.”
    "Trump killed my business where I had to invest in in' hogs, but I still love him!"

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/19/farm...r-for-now.html

    His personality cult is pretty frightening. Though, he bought them off with all the nice billion dollar handouts.

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    A recession will happen. The inverted yield curve that has predicted every recession is sounding the alarm bells. Not sure how bad it will be. Probably not 2008 levels. What might save this idiot's ass is that the market sometimes es for a few months/year or more before plummeting, so he might have a healthy market in support of his 2020 campaign.

    That said, I'm of the belief that presidents don't have as much control over the economy as perceived, but his trade war spat isn't helping. I hope he continues it since I want to see those "farmers" (who are getting billion dollar welfare checks) eat . Them going out of business, suffering profit losses, is their punishment for voting for such a moron. No sympathy:



    "Trump killed my business where I had to invest in in' hogs, but I still love him!"

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/19/farm...r-for-now.html

    His personality cult is pretty frightening. Though, he bought them off with all the nice billion dollar handouts.
    Agreed - good . This Orange er loves to brag about economic stability and how great it is. Well, he gotta eat this soppy sammich recession too. Can't have it both ways.

    Funny. In 2012, he tweeted if the Dow dropped 1,000 points 44 should be impeached. It's 2019. 200 more points to go

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    Trash blaming Fed, never himself, for not bailing out Trash and his disastrous but easy-to-win trade war.

    How about some Keynesian counter-cyclical stimulation, esp with govt basically BEGGING people to buy low-interest/negative-interest bonds, like Trash's promised infrastructure?

    Infrastructure? Just another Trash lie, with help from the Repugs who block any govt (is THE problem) project that will actually do good.

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    Though, he bought them off with all the nice billion dollar handouts.
    Trash's farm rescue "socialism" has not been nearly enough, and most of it went to huge farms and BigAg, not "family" farms.

    Even if he gave ALL the tariff revenue (he won't) to farmers and others hurt or killed by his trade war, it wouldn't be enough.

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    "I don't w*rk. It's my religion."

    If you're on veteran's disability (which you deserve, since being drafted into war against your will is highly immoral), those benefits are being paid for by "another man's money."
    I wasn't drafted. I ain't on disability.

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    Banks are paying people to borrow money. That’s alarming news for the global economy.

    T
    he new loan from Denmark’s Jyske Bank might seem inconceivable.
    The Danish lender last week started offering home buyers 10-year mortgages at an interest rate of -0.5 percent.

    That means borrowers over a decade will pay back a little less than the amount borrowed, not including one-time fees.

    This highly unusual condition may be good for Danish home buyers, but economists say it’s an alarming sign for the global economy.

    Several major governments and more than 1,000 big companies in Europe are

    now able to effectively borrow from global financial markets at a negative interest rate.

    For Jyske Bank, that means it can turn around and lend money at a subzero interest rate, too.

    The amount of this type of debt, issued as government or corporate bonds,

    has doubled since December and now totals $15 trillion.


    The sudden increase suggests that a fast-rising share of

    investors are so nervous about the future they’re willing to actually lose a little money

    by lending it to a borrower that is almost certain to pay it back, rather than risk betting on something that could go bust.

    In a healthy economy, investors would put their money to work in profit-making ventures such as factories or office buildings.

    “There’s an obvious, persistent and continuous glut of underutilized capital and

    there’s no place in the advanced world for that capital to be invested without excess risk.”


    “This is the ultimate indicator that something is fundamentally wrong with the world economy,”

    “The escalation of the Trash trade war is making it worse."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/banks-are-paying-people-to-borrow-money-thats-alarming-news-for-the-global-economy/2019/08/13/8eb7b9ca-bada-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html?noredirect=on

    And Trash says it's all the Fed's fault



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    Trump approval rating in N.H. is stable, but underwater,

    The University of New Hampshire survey found

    Trump with a 42 percent approval rating,

    with 53 percent who disapprove of him

    and 5 percent who said they were unsure.

    The pollster noted that while this represents

    a dip of 5 points in net approval from the spring,

    it is statistically unchanged from a year ago.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2019/08/13/trump-approval-rating-stable-but-underwater-poll-finds/1NTU1jYIcEWhLTPpi9MH2N/story.html



    If an election were lost 53 - 42, it would called a landslide win


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    Trump approval rating in N.H. is stable, but underwater,

    The University of New Hampshire survey found

    Trump with a 42 percent approval rating,

    with 53 percent who disapprove of him

    and 5 percent who said they were unsure.

    The pollster noted that while this represents

    a dip of 5 points in net approval from the spring,

    it is statistically unchanged from a year ago.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2019/08/13/trump-approval-rating-stable-but-underwater-poll-finds/1NTU1jYIcEWhLTPpi9MH2N/story.html



    If an election were lost 53 - 42, it would called a landslide win


    The night before the last Presidential Election Clinton had a 98+% of being (45).

    Uh, uh.

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    If I beat it with a rubber mallet & commit for 90+ minutes I can get it to burp a bit.

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