Resuming CBA talks

[ElNono]

I know some people here who would trade Bonner for Hunter.

Count me in!

[TimDunkem]

ZachLowe_SI Zach Lowe



Hearing d league rule may no longer be part of league's official proposal. Def was at some recent point.

[ElNono]

I'm glad holiday season is here. All those new video games should keep me busy until March or so, because I just don't see an NBA season anytime soon, tbh.

[Bruno]

This D-League rule is ugly for the players. If it's in owners' proposal, there is no way players would agreed to the new deal.

I would go as far as saying that if it's owners' proposal, then owners don't want to end the lockout now. Their goal is to have a lengthy lockout to get more than the half of the BRI and a hard cap.

[baseline bum]

Oh my god, are the owners ing kidding? As if the rookie-scale with its two team-option years wasn't skewed heavily enough in their favor? Wow, there is zero chance for a season; this is going to court.

[slick'81]

well weve heard all along the players wont bite fck this could get uglier fast

[mountainballer]

One player won't be enough. It will take a dozen of superstar to have some kind of impact of owners.

Right now, NBPA's executive committee is: Derek Fisher, Keyon Dooling, James Jones, Matt Bonner, Maurice Evans, Roger Mason, Chris Paul, Theo Ratliff and Ethan Thomas. Aside of Chris Paul, who is in a special situation since Hornets owner is the NBA, it's a bunch of scrubs. I'm sure Holt would be more friendly if he faced Tim Duncan instead of these players.

wrong. if players selected Bonner instead of Fisher to handle the negotiations they come out at 60% with the owners on their knees begging to accept. Matt found his way into Holt's pockets. twice. how can you NOT start this guy in a negotiation match. I'm not sure he didn't also sell his old Grand Prix to Holt. for something like 300K.

[spurs10]

Heard some good news finally. Jason Terry is ready to "walk" if he doesn't like the deal. Is it possible for him to keep walking till he drowns in the Atlantic Ocean. The one bright spot of no basketball has been no Jason Terry.
Of course he's going to have to vote no, as most of the system changes are designed to stop his boss from buying any more les.

[Mel_13]

This D-League rule is ugly for the players. If it's in owners' proposal, there is no way players would agreed to the new deal.

I would go as far as saying that if it's owners' proposal, then owners don't want to end the lockout now. Their goal is to have a lengthy lockout to get more than the half of the BRI and a hard cap.

It's almost as if their offers are designed to be:

1. Good enough to convince the casual fan (i.e. one that doesn't know much beyond 50/50) that they're negotiating in good faith.

2. Harsh enough that the players are more likely to reject it than accept it because accepting would represent utter capitulation.

[Mark in Austin]

It's damn near impossible to overstate the level of incompetence displayed by Billy Hunter through this entire ordeal. You can talk about Eddy Curry, Jerome James and the rest all you want, but the worst contract handed out over the last decade was when the NBPA decided to keep Billy Hunter.

[baseline bum]

Per Danny Green:

The email I jus received on this update got me HOT...we would b fools to take this deal

Well, now we see what that was about.

[baseline bum]

ing owners playing Lucy, pulling away the sucking football again!

[DPG21920]

Yet some misinformed souls will blame the greedy players.

[mavsfan1000]

The season is over. Players will decertify. It's all ing bull greed now. them all.

[baseline bum]

The season is over. Players will decertify. It's all ing bull greed now. them all.

Do you think they should bend over and take the NBDL rule?

[The Truth #6]

It's damn near impossible to overstate the level of incompetence displayed by Billy Hunter through this entire ordeal. You can talk about Eddy Curry, Jerome James and the rest all you want, but the worst contract handed out over the last decade was when the NBPA decided to keep Billy Hunter.

It's difficult for me to distinguish the differences between Fisher and Hunter sometimes. What are your main issues with Hunter? I'm not saying he's done a great job, just curious. Is his reluctance to decertify your main discontention?

[Bruno]

The NBA, via their crappy PR twitter account, is denying the D-League rule.

That's a good news. This rule was a true deal breaker.

[silverblk mystix]

I am getting optimistic here...I hope my hopes aren't squashed again...by the stupid players actually accepting this deal.

Please...let there be NO NBA season....please.

[TimmehC]

Yeah, that NBDL thing would be worse for Green than what he's doing now, playing in Slovenia/Euroleague. No wonder he was so pissed - surprised he didn't tell Holt to f*** off on his twitter feed.

[Dex]

NBA_Labor NBA Labor
.@RicBucher Incorrect; only preliminary discussions have been held on NBA/NBA D-League relationship; nothing in 11/11 proposal

[DPG21920]

The NBA, via their crappy PR twitter account, is denying the D-League rule.

That's a good news. This rule was a true deal breaker.

That Twitter account is one of the most absurd things I have ever seen. Even if that DL rule isn't in the proposal, the owners don't want to end this truly.

[baseline bum]

So the NBDL rule is essentially a shot over the deck, daring the players to not accept the current proposal?

[Duncan2177]

If the players don't take the deal, they're going to be screwed in the long run. Most of the owners can live without having a season, but these players can't. If they move towards decertification of the player's union, they'll be out of a job for more than one season. The players will be backed into a corner and take the 47% instead of the 50% that was offered. The players work for the owners, if they don't like their job, switch careers.

[DesignatedT]

^Yep.

[DJ Mbenga]

if the players accept a deal this gif will dominate the twitter feeds of the nba writers, because thats exactly what it would be.