What was so weird about it? Writer is saying that SuperStar players don't have the power to force trades or signings...seems like a pretty cut and dried case of him being incredibly wrong to me.
And TimVP was willing to give up his fandom because Malone is a coattailing drama queen?I have a question, most people who don't want Malone ... why?
I know with timvp, it's not because he's a dirty player or because of the hit on David Robinson, it's because he thinks he's a drama queen who will just be coattailing to a possible Championship.
I don't buy it, in fact I know he gave other reasons originally.
Why wasn't he going to give up his fandom when Terry Porter signed? Barry? Willis?
Karl Malone isn't my most hated player...and I'm not going to stop being a fan if the Spurs sign him...in fact he could help the team in a lot of ways as long as we don't make him too much a part of the rotation and rely on him too much.But what, specifically, is everyone else's reason?
If you say he has bad character, what do you mean exactly? Playing dirty? Any off the court activities?
Be specific, thanks.
I actually think signing him later in the season is less risky than doing it earlier in the season...Now, we already know we are the best team in the NBA, even without Malone..so if his age catches up with him and he goes down to injury, we won't miss a beat, we won't have a drop off in confidence trying to replace him.
But there is one thing that I get irate about...Spursfans do have a holier than though at ude, there is a public perception of organization being one committed to class and sportsmanship and by and large it has been but due more to flukes than anything else, and every move by Pop proves this...I'm sorry that TimVP doesn't realize that, but I have to ask just where he has been...that is the perception of the Spurs.
It's been the perception of the Spurs for a long time.
Anyway, what makes me irate is I see other Spurfans up on their high horse all the time when they are talking to fans of other organization...calling their players s , their organizations classless, citing the Spurs perception of being classy...I see a lot of Spurfans do it...and these guys are the same ones that jump on the Malone and Qyntel Woods bandwagon. It just sits wrong with me. Talk about BS.
It's also funny to watch everyone downplay the thuggery of players when they think they might be signing with the Spurs...why not just admit that you don't care if the guy is a thug....or that you know he is a thug. I did.
Malone is a thug on the court. He deliberately tries to injure guys, he always has. And he does not care if he injures them.
Go look at that video of him elbowing David Robinson and tell me that is just a routine foul not intended to hurt...he had so much torque behind that elbow Drob is lucky his skull wasn't cracked open right then and there ending his career on the spot. And Malone has cracked a guys skull open before. He knows exactly what he is doing.
If we are going to sign these guys, fine, but then people need to get off the high horse about the Spurs being an organzation committed to sportsmanship and classy play. The class came from Drob and now we are just another organization. ...because there is nothing classy about Karl Malone's play, he's a total thug on the court who has ended careers and who does try to injure players without a second thought and I seriously question the integrity and intelligence of anyone who says otherwise.
Jason Kidd playing for the Spurs doesn't mean he's not a wifebeating punk...and Karl Malone playing here doesn't mean he's not a injure dealing and career ending thug. There is no longer anything special about this organization, in terms of class and sportsmanship, once we sign a guy like Malone. And Pop deserves very little credit for the rep this organization has in terms of class and sportsmanship. Not with the guys he tries to sign.
Might as well be honest about it.
Last edited by whottt; 02-06-2005 at 04:45 PM.
Hey, TIMVP how much do you want for your season tickets,sometime back I heard you would give up your tickets if they signed MALONE.If he signs before the next home game that means you won't attend another home SPURS game untill MALONE is gone,what a SPURS FAN. Just give a price and I know alot of SPURS FAN would pay you for them.
SPURS 2005 CHAMPS
With MALONE or without.
whott
good point CHAMPS AGAIN...haha timvp...
Think about this:
Starters:
TP
Manu
Bowen
TD
Rasho
Bench:
Beno
Wilks
Barry
Brown
Malone
Horry
Malik
IR:
Sato
Linton
TonyM
That's a of a bench right there!
Two scenarios:
1) Karl is physically ok and ready to contribute off the bench. With TD/Rasho/Malone/Horry/Malik big's rotation, the Spurs would have arguably one of the deepest frontcourts in the entire league.
2) Karl is not physically ok and/or not ready to accept his dimished role. First, the Spurs invest very little financially, essentially the pro-rated part of 1.1M of a 10 year veteran minimum salary, which is mostly paid by the league anyway. Second, they still have TonyM if Malone's experiment doesn't work. Finally, they only price paid is cutting Sean Marks, losing a nice guy for practice and a good teammate in the locker room.
I think signing Karl is a low-risk / high-potential-benefit proposition. Pop and Tim will not let Karl become a cancer in the locker room. He will have plenty of compe ion from the other guys (Malik and Horry), and he will have to fight for minutes if he wants to play. If he is ready, the Spurs will have a nice combination of finesse/physical frontcourt that could play anyone, any style, anywhere.
Strangely enough, the only thing that bothers me a little is karma. Don't laugh... Karl Malone could be kriptonite for the Spurs' le run.
If you put T. Mass in the IL, Marks willl still be on the bench.
You have 12 players in your active roster. If Karl Malone joins the Spurs, one player must be cut, and one player must go to the IL.
Why did Malone take Duncan to the restaurant? Shouldn't the host be the person who drives.
What a coat-tailing . He was supposedly 99% ready to retire. If the Spurs aren't 38-10 you think he drives out of his way to stop over in San Antonio? As far as getting a ring, he's in a great position: wait as long as possible, see if there is any team that looks like a sure thing and if there is, sign with them. If not, wait until next year.
At this point it looks like a given that the evil bas will be wearing a Spurs uniform soon. I'm still a fan but Whottt is right, call it for what it is. Karl Malone is a piece of .
Charlotte Bobcats needs him more... He should sign there
I can't believe some of you are so against this. DRob, Tim, and Pop all want him, but you're letting some old grudge get in your way.
If he's good enough for the MVP, maybe some of you should take a step back and reassess the situation.
but but but, he threw an elbow almost 7 years ago Aggie that a person I dont know, forgave him for already.
Come on, we all know the guy, hes pure evil.
but but but, he threw an elbow almost 7 years ago Aggie that a person I dont know, forgave him for already.
Come on, we all know the guy, hes pure evil
Hey dumbass! This wasn't 7 years ago!
Keep telling yourself he's not like that anymore. You fool no one but yourself.
Whatever...
Poor thing.
Guess Malone is just pure evil.
He knocked a guy's tooth out. Oh the horror.
Its steve Nash, he probobly called malone a nazi and he popped him one.
willis was a physical player too. i don't see the problem.
Fine, dont sign him.
wanting to get better.
People also like to forget the total cheap shot he threw at scott williams in the playoffs a couple years ago.willis was a physical player too
Well if he is on our team he won't be hurting anyone but the opposition. We have always had a Karl Malone on our team, just not a hall of fame one:
Kevin Willis
Tony Massenberg
Both players who play like Karl Malone and come from that old school where they teach you to play tough, not wear knee braces, and use those elbows to keep those stupid little guards from trying to jump in and poke out the ball......
On second thought, I'd trade Sean Marks for a 41 year old Karl Malone with a bum knee at this point in the season.
Want Malone all you want but please stop saying he doesn't try to injure guys...and please stop comparing him to Willis and Massenburg, because there is no comparison.
You guys simply want a player that tries to injure other guys. It's ok, just stop saying he isn't a thug, and doesn't try to inure guys, because he is a thug and he does try to injure guys...and you are plain ole ignorant if you don't realize it.
He doesn't try to injure people, he just puts his elbows out and if someone happens to run into it, then so be it.
Spurs should sign him, some toughness down on the block couldn't hurt...the Spurs that is.
Hmm, you must be one of the stupid ones.
Be sure to watch the video:
http://video.woai.com/launcher/82036,565/
I was just rephrasing it as Malone might say it. I think thats how he thinks of it, and just doesn't care if he hurts anyone or not.
To play devil's advocate whott, a lot of people say the same thing about Bowen.
My bad ATLFan, I really don't have that much of a problem with people who want Malone, until they start BSing the situation.
I personally didn't like what Bowen did to Wally, or Brent Barry(that big ass gash) for that matter...I think you can make more of a case for Bowen being dirty than you can Willis or Massenburg. But he's still nothing like Malone. Bruce tries intimidation and to piss his man off...he doesn't try to fracture their skull. If Bruce had really been trying to injure Wally, Wally would not have gotten back up.
I want to say something about Willis' elbow...Scott Williams was getting pretty physical with Willis too, and he gets his shots in in games. Williams plays wild and physical. If anyone goes back and watches that game they will see a sequence when Williams dove for a ball and nearly took Willis' knees out. I didn't like it when Willis threw that blatant elbow, but Williams WAS getting physical with Willis as well...but just to point out why that style of play really has no business in the NBA... that elbow nearly cost us that series, and likely would have were it not for the best game of Ferry's playoff career.
I think it sucks that the league allows players that have a certain mentality that it is better to win by cheapshotting and injuring a guy, than by playing better basketball.
I know the way I feel every time one of our players goes down...especially to a cheap shot. I don't like it. I don't like it when I see it happen to other players. I don't want to see a talented player who is fun to watch, get his career ruined by some ahole that can't win without injuring someone...I don't think that's fun to watch, and I don't think it's good for the NBA ultimately...at least not if they are trying to market themselves as family entertainment.
Last edited by whottt; 02-07-2005 at 02:42 AM.
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