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  1. #176
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    Didn't Tim leave money on the table so he can be surrounded with some talent? Maybe the FO is holding its breath until 2010. You know the summer sucks when people get excited about the possibility of signing Pargo.....Maybe CIA POP is up to something, yeah, thats what it is.

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    I hate this offseason.

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    Oh no. This sucks. Thanks for making my Thursday amazing Spurs.

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    Why do I come in here, I must love to be tortured. Come on NFL.

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    I knew that huge "Gist...phenomenal" thread was gonna be a jinx
    yup, just like the Ditka thread jinxed Manu.


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    Why do I come in here, I must love to be tortured. Come on NFL.

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    Why do I come in here, I must love to be tortured. Come on NFL.



    I think I cursed the Spurs by registering here. Nothing but bad news.

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    i was looking forward to seeing him play this year

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    Does anyone have a link showing how much the exceptions are worth for this season?

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    Does anyone have a link showing how much the exceptions are worth for this season?
    search "trade exceptions" on this website and you should get at least 2 or 3 threads with the info you're looking for

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    I was just looking for a yearly scale

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    I was just looking for a yearly scale
    Oh, got you...you meant MLE and LLE.

    In that case, I'm not sure but I know it's based on whatever the salary cap is set at.

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    Thanks, I figured as much. Just did not know how they figured it, I think they have it on that Cap FAQ site, so I will look it up.

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    Found it:

    MID-LEVEL SALARY EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team to sign any free agent to a contract equal to the average salary, even if they are over the cap (see question number 24 for the definition of "average salary." Also note that for 2005-06 they used a defined figure of $5 million). This exception may be split and given to multiple players. It may be used for contracts of up to five years in length, and raises are limited to 8% of the salary in the first year of the contract. Signing a player to a multi-year contract does not affect a team's ability to use this exception every year. For example, a team can sign a player to a five-year contract using this exception and still use the exception the following year to sign another player. Also see question number 20 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.

    If the player is a restricted free agent with one or two years of service and receives an offer sheet from a new team, the player's prior team may use the Mid-Level exception to match the offer sheet (see question number 36 for restricted free agency).

    Here are the actual values of this exception for each season. Note that since this exception is based on the average player salary, the actual value of this exception is not determined until the start of the free agent signing period.

    2005-06
    $5 million
    2006-07
    $5.215 million
    2007-08
    $5.356 million
    2008-09 $5.585 million

    BI-ANNUAL EXCEPTION -- This exception was previously named the "$1 Million exception" (perhaps "misnamed" is more appropriate, since it was only valued at $1 million in 1998-99). It may be used to sign any free agent to a contract starting at the following amounts:

    2005-06
    $1.67 million
    2006-07
    $1.75 million
    2007-08 $1.83 million
    2008-09 $1.91 million
    2009-10 $1.99 million
    2010-11
    $2.08 million
    2011-12
    $2.18 million

    This exception may not be used two years in a row (and if the $1 Million exception was used in 2004-05, the Bi-Annual exception may not be used in 2005-06). It may be split and given to more than one player, and can be used to sign players for up to two years, with raises limited to 8%. Also see question number 20 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

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    Gist was inconsequential on draft night and now he's a lock for Springfield.

    Must be August.

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    God Dammit

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    This is probably okay -- they'll retain rights and bring him over next year. The extreeeeemely slow way of developing players.
    +1

    I'd rather see him go to Austin

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    If most of us are honest, Gist was not even on the radar as a viable option before the draft. To say that Gist would be able to adequately fill the 3/4 and defend people like West and Diaw during his rookie year is quite a leap, and it certainly doesn't fit the Spurs' MO, as of late.

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    ahhh who cares?

    I think it was unlikely he would have made any type of significant contribution this year anyways. I actually think overseas development is better than playing in the D-League, so let him play over there.

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    If most of us are honest, Gist was not even on the radar as a viable option before the draft. To say that Gist would be able to adequately fill the 3/4 and defend people like West and Diaw during his rookie year is quite a leap, and it certainly doesn't fit the Spurs' MO, as of late.
    Who gives a about who was on anyone's radar on draft night?

    The fact is the Spurs drafted the guy, and he played even with our supposed savior Ian. And now he's off to some scrub Euro team.

    MOs don't matter, and it's certainly a leap to say the couldn't adequately be a rotation player on a squad with all of Udoka, Bonner, and Tolliver at the 3/4 behind Tim and Bruce.

    Damn.

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    Who gives a about who was on anyone's radar on draft night?

    The fact is the Spurs drafted the guy, and he played even with our supposed savior Ian. And now he's off to some scrub Euro team.

    MOs don't matter, and it's certainly a leap to say the couldn't adequately be a rotation player on a squad with all of Udoka, Bonner, and Tolliver at the 3/4 behind Tim and Bruce.

    Damn.
    Ian has never been anyone's supposed savior. Don't lump Ian's SL performance with Gist's apparently hard-on inducing performace. And the MO is an indicator of things to come, and it certainly matters.

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    You people do not deserve Ian Mahinmi.

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    Interesting development.... I'm still not real happy that Plaisted is not going to be in the Dleague this year, but for Detroit, it was pretty much understood on draft night that a move to Europe was going to happen. And it was mostly for a lack of enough roster spots. So I get why we're doing it. Once Sheed and Dice leave us, we'll be able to pull him back into the fold and have a more seasoned and experienced player that never cost us a roster spot while away. But the Spurs seem to have the roster spots, the cash, and the need for his particular skill set.

    I'm wondering if Gist took a roster spot from the Pistons Deron Washington, who's also going to Europe.
    The Pistons have been working with Washington’s agent and using their network of European contacts to secure the best situation possible for him and hope to land him with a team in either Italy or Spain soon. Before Washington has to leave for abroad, they hope can take part in some or all of the three weeks of voluntary workouts Michael Curry has scheduled in Auburn Hills for August.

    “We sit down (with his European coaches) and say these are the things we think he needs to develop so in time he can come back – that’s the idea,” Perry said. “And it’s important that he has coaches who have shown the willingness and the ability to develop guys. It’s also important that he has the opportunity to play. It makes no sense if he’s not going to get minutes on the floor. That will be an integral part of where he’s going as will the living situation. You want him to have the opportunity to be in a place where he’ll enjoy living a little bit because that will be a part of the adjustment.”
    I also wonder how much communication the Spurs and Pistons have been involved in, both sending players to the same team in Italy. I'd imagine the 2 teams scouting depts will be working together watching and giving updates on the other teams player throughout the season.

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    You people do not deserve Ian Mahinmi.
    "You people"! What do you mean, "you people"?!

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    "You people"! What do you mean, "you people"?!

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