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    it is your option that it makes you look petty

    some posters feel it is ok if the service sucked and leaving a quarter is better then nothing
    Exactly, it is my opinion and I have stated many times throughout this thread that it is just different ways of doing things for different people. But do not kid yourself, no leaves a quarter thinking it is "better than nothing".

    Just like people who fight vs. people who talk things out. Two different ways to handle a problem, it is my universal belief that people should be treated with respect even if you do not respect who they are. That would make leaving a .25 cent tip a bad way to handle a situation. A mature person (we all make mistakes though, and a lapse in judgment a few times does not make someone a bad person or immature) would tell the waiter they will not be leaving a tip to their face and explain why, or leave a note.

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    Ducks I've heard that Mr. and the misses donate huge amounts of money to various charities.

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    it is your option that it makes you look petty

    if the waiter sucks he does not deserve a tip because he did not earn the tip

    it is not right to give something for a deed nto done

    unless the guess just wants to give a serve a GIFT

    some posters feel it is ok if the service sucked and leaving a quarter is better then nothing
    Do you read what people write in their posts?

    If the waiter sucks, they do not deserve a tip. I have said that already. Tip = good service and if the service is not up to a standard, then you adjust the tip accordingly. If the service is so bad that you wish to "make a point", you do not be rude about it. You leave NO tip at all and explain why.

    I have said over and over in this thread that it is perfectly acceptable not to tip if the service is bad. It is not ok to be rude.

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    I met Tim Duncan back in '06. Of all places at CompUSA. He was WAITING IN LINE for the PC repair/support with his desktop under one arm. I walked up to him told him "I'm big fan Mr. Duncan. Nice to meet you" and shook his hand. He then said "It's nice to meet you too.", but he didn't sound as excited as I was. Go figure
    Thats funny..I would have asked Timmy why he was waiting in line for instead.

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    manu is smart he buys apple and sucks on bill gates the greedies idiot in the world
    Hate to say this, because for ONCE I see ducks say something nice about Manu...

    Manu is actually a Windows guy... Not that he has anything against Macs or Apple, but last I checked his trusty laptop runs Windows... I *think* he got Manny an iMac for home, but I don't remember exactly...
    He did buy iPods for the entire Argentina team last year after they qualified to the Olympics...

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    I met tim ducan at the sprint store. he and his wife were there getting phones and i waited by the door for about 30 minutes and when he walked by I said hi and he said hi back and he said it really nice. I also met malik rose and he was a super nice guy he talked to me for a long time and he gave me an autograph and everything! I also saw fabricio oberto at the grocery store but didn't say anything i just walked by him

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    I always hear that Manu (well except the incident with Manny) and Tony tip a lot but that Tim is really cheap

    I would guess they probably tip according to the service like everyone else.
    I always tip 20% or more, even if the service is bad.

    I need to tighten that up.

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    I saw Tim and AD at Pizza Hut and just walked by them and tapped both of them on the shoulders and said good game.
    Tim and AD eat at Pizza Hut?

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    that almost is sig worthy

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    Just to get into the tipping conversation for fun.

    Yes, people do actually forget to tip. There are people who pay with a credit card who sign it and forget to add the tip. There are more casual places where the diner pays at a cashier and does not pay the waiter or waitress at the table, and they have to remember to leave the tip separately as they leave the table.

    Leaving no tip sends the message that you are not a tipper-- it does not send the message that the service was poor. I always tip well no matter what but then just never go back.

    And yes, any person of a certain age knows that leaving a quarter is an intentional way of saying the service was bad. Some people do not like confrontation and do not want to complain. It gets their message across clearly without altercation.

    Leaving nothing signals that you are possibly just cheap and never tip-- it can make the waiter think the service was fine, but a quarter means you are a tipper and you remembered to tip but that the service was that bad.

    Also, to add to the fray, in some countries tipping is not even customary in restaurants or it is specifically included in the price of the meal. There have been plenty of players in the NBA who have come from Europe who have to be told by someone that tipping is expected and how much because even in instances where tipping occurs, it may only customarily be like 5%.

    As to Spurs encounters, they have all been nice to me- players, families, and friends alike. Pretty much everyone I have met connected to NBA players has been nice whether affiliated with the team for which I was rooting or even the opponent. Even Rick Barry smiled at me.

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    One morning when I was eating some breakfast at McDonalds, a rumor began brewing that Tim Duncan was visiting my hometown for a quick look (Del Rio is a quick look no matter how long you stay here). It was just a couple weeks after his first season in San Antonio, so I didn't really believe in the hype. Just as I was finished with my meal, he arrives at the McDonalds parking lot. I knew this was my one chance to meet him because apparently no else in the restaurant noticed he was about to enter. I scurry over to the entrance and wait for him, trying my best not to make a scene and ruin my chance to have a 1 on 1 conversation with him.

    He approaches the door, and at that moment I greet him with a calm 'Hi, Tim'. He tells me that he already knows that I'm a cool guy since I'm the first fan he's met in town that hasn't become hysterical and began screaming when approaching him. I feel very excited to know that I'm already on his good side. He tells me that he really would like some McDonalds breakfast but isn't really in the mood to be flooded by loud fans in the restaurant since he is not a morning person. He then asks me if I could get his meal for him while he waits outside in his car for me. I felt weird that it's my first time meeting Tim Duncan and I'm getting him breakfast, but hey, it's Tim Duncan, so whatever, I was happy doing favors for him.

    I leave the restaurant, go to his car, and hand him his food. He invites me in his car to chill so I can keep him company while he eats. Of course, I accept his offer. So we're just there in his car laying back relaxing and talking about his experiences in his first year in San Antonio, and it seems as though we're hitting it off just swimmingly. And it dawns on me that I'm almost late for work at the ER. I inform him of my situation and he insists that he drives me to work, saying that 'it's the least he can do for being relaxed around him'. I also accept that offer, and as soon as we are about to leave the parking lot, I noticed a friend of mine who is also working in the ER but has the day off, has just parked in the lot.

    I call the friend over as he looks surprised since he believes that the car I'm in is mine. He approaches the car and Tim rolls down his window and you can imagine the surprise that gave my friend as he just notices I'm hanging out with Tim Duncan. He straight up hugs Tim through the window, and begins bombarding him with questions. I told him that we're on the way to the hospital because I'm late for work, and a sigh of disappointment comes from him, as he realizes his one time meeting Tim Duncan is over. And at that point, Tim comes up with another offer. He tells the friend of mine that if he covers for me at the ER for today, he'll give him 4 tickets to next season's opener and a locker room pass to meet him again after the game. He accepts the offer, gladly, runs into the restaurant to grab his breakfast, gives Tim another hug and takes a picture with him, and goes to work in my place.

    I ask Tim what he wants to do since he got me the day off of work, and he brings up the idea of going to the gym for a little shootaround. I'm thinking to myself, 'oh my God, I'm gonna be playing basketball with Tim Duncan, what can be better?'. I excitingly accept the offer and show him the way to the local gym.

    I'm just realizing that this is starting to become just the perfect day for me; meeting Tim Duncan, getting the day off, and now I'm gonna be playing basketball with him. I must be dreaming.

    So we arrive and we change into our gear and start with a shootaround. A couple of other guys come into the gym and ask us if they wanted to play a little 2 on 2 match. Of course, me and Tim dominate, beating them 70 to 22. After that, I play him a free throw shooting contest, whoever makes the most out of 50, and he won, 38 to 36. I then play him a game of horse, and he beats me again, with his last shot being an underhand fullcourt shot backwards. When he made that shot, my jaw dropped. We continue on playing in the gym, and as we start to get worn down in the evening, he says he wants to get out of there and go do something else. He says he can really go for a game of bowling now. I show him the way to the alley, and the perfect day just keeps on going, the bowling alley is completely empty, allowing us to have more time playing and less time with bombarding fans. Let me tell you, he's an awesome bowler. We played 2 games with Tim beating me both times by at least 115 points.

    By that time, it's already about 6 or 7 pm, and he says it's time for him to get out of town and back to San Antonio. We go to get some lunch at Chili's (he ordered one of the burgers, I forgot which one. One of the big mouth burgers) before he leaves. He drops me off at my house and tells me that I'm a pretty cool guy and that he'd like to hang out again next time he's in town. I tell him that that would be awesome and to just call me when he's back. We share our goodbyes and he tells me that next year he'll make sure that the Spurs win the championship.
    Nice stroy.

    But I remember reading in some thread not too long ago that you were like sixteen...correct me if I'm wrong...do they actually hire 8 year olds at the ER in Del Rio or what lol? wtf

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    I met David Robinson in a Hotel at Disney world when I was really young. He set my standards for meeting celebrities really really high since he was so polite (autograph, pictures with his son his shoulders and the rest of his familly around him). He was awesome, talked with us, asked US questions.

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    Nice stroy.

    But I remember reading in some thread not too long ago that you were like sixteen...correct me if I'm wrong...do they actually hire 8 year olds at the ER in Del Rio or what lol? wtf
    This is the story he wrote in 8th grade junior high. Got an A plus, on it!!

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    I know you guy may not want to hear this but i was flying back from LA on a biz trip (this was just AFTER) Tony's marriage last year and Eva Longoria was on the plane in first class ...I wished her congrats ...and Tony picked her up at the SAT ...so i saw him up close didnt get to chat ...Eva is pretty but extremely SKINNY almost looks anoxeric and not as impressive i person. In fact many of you have more attractive women on your signatures ...then Eva. i travel a lot for work and I see women in NY and LA normal ones not models that are more attractive. Dont ge me wrong I would tap that a$$ ...but was expecting more ...

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    Just to get into the tipping conversation for fun.

    Yes, people do actually forget to tip. There are people who pay with a credit card who sign it and forget to add the tip. There are more casual places where the diner pays at a cashier and does not pay the waiter or waitress at the table, and they have to remember to leave the tip separately as they leave the table.
    Leaving no tip sends the message that you are not a tipper-- it does not send the message that the service was poor. I always tip well no matter what but then just never go back.

    And yes, any person of a certain age knows that leaving a quarter is an intentional way of saying the service was bad. Some people do not like confrontation and do not want to complain. It gets their message across clearly without altercation.
    Leaving nothing signals that you are possibly just cheap and never tip-- it can make the waiter think the service was fine, but a quarter means you are a tipper and you remembered to tip but that the service was that bad.
    Also, to add to the fray, in some countries tipping is not even customary in restaurants or it is specifically included in the price of the meal. There have been plenty of players in the NBA who have come from Europe who have to be told by someone that tipping is expected and how much because even in instances where tipping occurs, it may only customarily be like 5%.

    As to Spurs encounters, they have all been nice to me- players, families, and friends alike. Pretty much everyone I have met connected to NBA players has been nice whether affiliated with the team for which I was rooting or even the opponent. Even Rick Barry smiled at me.
    Thank you very much, you stated exactly all the points i was trying to make.

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    I have 3 brothers that are waiters and we have discussed this many times. I am agreeing with you, I have clearly stated that leaving .25 cents = no tip with regards to the message sent. I am aware that it is common practice. Just because it is common does not make it right, it makes you look petty.

    If you would take the time to read my posts instead of just getting argumentative, you would see that.

    Racism used to be a common practice, crime is common are those things good? You saying I have a little brain is the result of you being rude and petty. You could of easily just disagreed, but you took the low road. Same thing, but I guess in our society, people are commonly rude and petty, guess that makes a point.
    Thats a great comparison....are you freaking kidding me??

    You're the one that started being rude, by saying "I get that you do not understand much." I just followed suit, get off your supposedly high horse.

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    Dude, leaving nothing could mean you forgot or just don't tip. When you leave .25 cents it means you remember to tip, but your service sucks. Get it?
    I get that you do not understand much. How many people do you know that "forget" to tip? I have never once forgot to tip someone. If the service was bad, you know it. If you are a waiter and are rude, you realize what you are doing. If you are intentionally ignoring a table to focus on others, you know it. So if you get a bad tip, or no tip you understand why it happened.

    So your saying they get the bill, look at it, pull money out to pay but forgot that a tip needs to be included as they are looking at the bill and their money simultaneously? Or if you use a credit card to pay, hand it to the waiter, they go charge it, you have to wait until you get your card back and then sign the receipt right under where it says tip and you forget?
    You do realize your post came first? It is a fair comparison. Just because leaving a quarter is common practice, does not make it ok. Just like other social injustices. It is not on the scale of racism or crime, but they share an underlying theme; lack of respect for your fellow man/woman
    Last edited by DPG21920; 08-12-2008 at 04:11 AM.

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    Feel free to continue leaving a quarter. My question to you is: would leaving no tip and explaining to the manager or waiter why hurt any thing?

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    Perfect example of what the point I am trying to make. If what I said one time was rude (which I will admit and apologize for) why is it necessary for you to not only "follow suit", but to continue with it throughout the rest of your posts?

    Same thing with leaving a quarter. Why lower yourself? Do you not agree that leaving no tip and explaining it in a mature manner to the waiter or leaving a note gets the same point across without being a d-bag about it?

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    I apologise to anyone who relies on tips for a living, but this whole tipping business to me is a completely ridiculous scam. In Australia, tipping is practically non-existent and is a privilege when it does happen, not a requirement. The only times I have ever come across tipping, is in Pizza Delivery (or the equivalent) where you might (if you were feeling generous) leave the change. Even like a $2 tip is good.

    Thats it. No one complains. Everyone gets paid a real wage. People don't need to rely on the generosity of others (apart from their boss) to survive the brutal economy. How is that not a better system? Pay people what they are worth.

    On the subject topic, I wish i had the chance to meet a Spur, but thats kind of unlikely unless they decided to vacation in my neck of the woods. I think the closest i've come is by association - i shot around with a NBL player back in High School, who played against Andrew Gaze, who was a Spur once upon a time.... man, thats lame.

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    I apologise to anyone who relies on tips for a living, but this whole tipping business to me is a completely ridiculous scam. In Australia, tipping is practically non-existent and is a privilege when it does happen, not a requirement. The only times I have ever come across tipping, is in Pizza Delivery (or the equivalent) where you might (if you were feeling generous) leave the change. Even like a $2 tip is good.

    Thats it. No one complains. Everyone gets paid a real wage. People don't need to rely on the generosity of others (apart from their boss) to survive the brutal economy. How is that not a better system? Pay people what they are worth.
    In cities people usually tip, but in country towns people get shocked. They always think you over pay and they probably haven't heard of tipping.

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    Nice stroy.

    But I remember reading in some thread not too long ago that you were like sixteen...correct me if I'm wrong...do they actually hire 8 year olds at the ER in Del Rio or what lol? wtf
    I made up the story.
    This is the story he wrote in 8th grade junior high. Got an A plus, on it!!
    Not exactly, but let's go with that.

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    I was sitting in an L.A. bar back in the day when George Gervin sits down next to me and orders a scotch. The bartender brings him his drink, and George stares at it with a puzzled look and says "Where's the ice, man?"

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    I throw pennies in the trash.

    LOL..wow...i put them in a jar and after months of collecting....i go to the coinstar @ HEB and...CASH IN BABY!!

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