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They don't want to admit that right after the convention this was to be expected. If our convention were last the exact same thing would be happening.
Obama's tax cut will benefit everyone making less than 150K a year. People making more can afford to dip into their paychecks a little bit to help out their country.
Obama's tax plan will ensure we have a planet in 500 years, whereas McSame just wants to keep raping the planet like Bush would like to do.
Does anyone honestly believe they're getting a tax cut, no matter who wins? After bailing out Fannie & Freddie, in an unstable economy, with record deficits already on the books and now both Obama and McCain are wanting to bail out the Big 3 automakers, how can anyone actually believe either guy is going to follow through on their tax cut promises?
No. And I don't really care.
For all the BS coming out of Bush/McSame supporters' mouths about patriotism, no one seems to be able to admit that the way a democratic country keeps running is by paying taxes. Get over it. You want a country without good roads, good schools, good health care, a strong military, blah blah blah? Well, taxes pay for those things. Except, of course, when a Republican is in office, and then they charge you the same amount of money for taxes but the money only goes to the military, and your health, roads, schools, etc get flushed down the toilet. Too bad for you.
That's so idiotic it's laughable! Do you even check facts before you spew this garbage? Why don't you check and see the percentage of the national budget that goes to each of the things you listed above - and then get back to us.
We're spending ever increasing amounts on education - but the schools are still failing. Don't even get me started on what we pay for en lement programs such as medicare, medicaid, and welfare!
Are you TPark? I'm sure you've benefited at one time or another from the govt so STFU.
He only drives through vacant lots, never on the roads.
Obama's tax cut isn't going to be a tax cut...it's going to be giving money to people that don't any income tax to begin with. And it's not going to be enough to turn their lives around....
It's called buying votes...and it's not worth it.
And believe me...I will be one of the ones getting a nice credit. That is not going to fix the economy...and it is not going to create jobs. It's going to cost some people their jobs, and it's going to flatten our economy.
I have been through this before...it was called the Carter Amidnistration.
Let's keep giving the top 1% of America more and more tax cuts. That has clearly put our economy in the best position possible today......oh wait.
Latest polls:
Thursday, September 11
Race Poll Results Spread
Florida InAdv/PollPosition McCain 50, Obama 42 McCain +8
Ohio InAdv/PollPosition McCain 48, Obama 47 McCain +1
Michigan InAdv/PollPosition Obama 44, McCain 45 McCain +1
Michigan Rasmussen Obama 51, McCain 46 Obama +5
Colorado InAdv/PollPosition Obama 49, McCain 46 Obama +3
Georgia InAdv/PollPosition McCain 56, Obama 38 McCain +18
Nevada InAdv/PollPosition McCain 46, Obama 45 McCain +1
Our economy is bad ass compared to most of the world. It's not always going to be some huge economic explosion...and anyone that tells you that it can be is lying.
Yep, by most measures we have the 2nd or 3rd highest growth rate in the world, while we're talking about potential recession. We're due for another tech boom in another 8 or 9 years I think, which seems like it'll most likely come in the form of energy production/consumption.
If we engage the promise of alternative energy it can fuel a tremendous amount of growth, at the same time weaning us away from giving money to seriously bad groups in the world.
Ooh, this does not bode very well for McCain:
Region Aug. 18-24 Aug. 25-31 Sept. 1-7
East Obama +15 Obama +17 Obama +11
South McCain +12 McCain +4 McCain +15
Midwest McCain +1 Obama +10 Obama +6
West Obama +5 Obama + 7 Obama +7
The Democratic convention was Aug. 25-28 and the Republican convention was Sept. 1-4, so the second column is the pre-convention baseline and the fourth one was taken during and after the Republican convention. If we compare the third and fourth columns to see the effect of the Republican convention, the biggest effect was in the South, where McCain is likely to win most states anyway, and a bit in the East, where Obama is likely to win everything. The effect in the crucial Midwest and West was smaller.
Polls:
Washington Rasmussen Obama 49, McCain 47 Obama +2
Tell me you guys were expecting that.
National Rasmussen Obama 45, McCain 48 McCain +3
Biggest lead for McCain on the Rasmussen.
I know, I know...fanstastic news for Obama
If you guys want to see how McCain gets 270, try www.electoral-vote.com
They now have McCain winning on the Electoral Map 270-268
I hear Obama just opened a bottle of champagne to celebrate this great news.
McCain has turned the momentum of his campaign around. He's leading in the electoral vote on many sites and leads the RCP average. However, we're still two months out and have four debates to come. A lot can happen between now and then.
Thus the reason this entire thread means little to nothing until early October.
Republicans have a reason to be fired up. Theyre back in business when it didnt look that way before Palin (to say I am surprised that all it took was a female VP from podunk-nowhere is an understatement and an indictment on the American people all at the same time, regardless of party (<- i hate disclaimers)).
If you guys want to see how McCain gets 270, try www.electoral-vote.com
They now have McCain winning on the Electoral Map 270-268
I hear Obama just opened a bottle of champagne to celebrate this great news.
I nearly puked when I opened the site this morning.
Palin energizing the base is going to help McCain make this a very close race.
Washington State isn't going to McCain, whott.
Daily tracking polls right now are not that important. It will take two more weeks to see if McCain's convention bounce turns into anything more permanent and concrete.
Kerry vulnerable states: New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Michigan
Bush vulnerable states: North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Iowa (already an Obama state), Colorado, New Mexico.
Relax, McCain's national polling numbers right now are artificially inflated due to his convention bounce. The race as of this moment is a statistical dead heat, and it's still strategically favorable to Obama. If you break the polling data down further, she's had the biggest impact in states McCain was going to win anyways. McCain's bounce has gotten him a statistical dead heat.
I agree with some of this, but the situation right now is clearly not prefereable.
It was always going to be a close race. It's hard to figure how much of McCain's bump in the polls is going to last. We don't know how much is a temporary convention bounce and what kind of lasting effect Palin will have on the race. At the very least she will help turn out the GOP base and keep this a close, compe ive election. But it is far from certain that she will help McCain with independents, especially when she kills the GOP's "experience" argument against Obama.
I mean, Republicans gleefully celebrating McCain's current surge to making this race a statistical dead heat is akin to celebrating your team winning the opening coin toss and marching down the field to kick a field goal.
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