George Bush: Worst President in US History?

[Shastafarian]

I may be the worst president in history but this Shasta arian fella might be the worst poster in Spurstalk history ... and there are a lot more posters than presidents.

Why because I called your boyfriend a hypocrite?

[Wild Cobra]

What I do disagree with timvp about is that he's mostly going to be remembered as the 9/11 president. I also think he'll be remembered for all the periphery of stuff around 9/11, like the Iraq war president, the Patriot Act president, the Guantanamo Bay president, the Bush Doctrine president, etc. But then again, like I said earlier, and I think timvp agreed, only time will tell.

I automatically considered those to ba part of "The 9/11 President."

When history writes of these, consider how it may be layed out. 9/11 will be like the major theme, maybe book le, with each issue a chapter within.

[ElNono]

You know what what the scientists say. Gravity is a theory. I don't buy that BS.

I'm going to teach my kids that gravity doesn't exist and that the reason we are fixed on the ground is because of a giant flying spaghetti monster in the sky is controlling us. Nobody has any right to call me or my kids an idiot for believing in this since gravity is a theory. You can't disprove that my flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist, therefore you can't dispute or berate me for anything I say.

Gravity does exist and it's not a theory. Please read Newton's law of universal gravitation. You can use that scientific law to calculate the gravitational force between Earth and pretty much any object, and keep your kids educated.

The only reason you would need to switch to the general theory of relativity is if you needed to calculate the gravitational pull of objects of huge mass, or you needed over the top precision on the calculation of the gravitational force. IE: If your kids would like to investigate one day the gravitational fields between two stars, they would need to go for Einstein's theory.

[Wild Cobra]

Says he who defends Joseph McCarthy. And please oh please don't give up on me!!! I yearn for approval from people who post on the internets...

Sorry, you're just too far gone. I find it a waste of time to try to reason with you.

After you read up on the Venona Project and understand who what in what committees and the timeluines involved, we can try to discuss the matter about McCarthy. That however is a different thread.

[Shastafarian]

Sorry, you're just too far gone. I find it a waste of time to try to reason with you.

You mean reason with me in the sense you want to say Joseph McCarthy wasn't such a bad guy? Maybe you'd like to tell me Richard Nixon was just misunderstood?

[ElNono]

I automatically considered those to ba part of "The 9/11 President."

When history writes of these, consider how it may be layed out. 9/11 will be like the major theme, maybe book le, with each issue a chapter within.

I'm thinking more towards how I will remember him, and tell the tale to whoever asks. I mean, while a lot of those things were put in place with the excuse of 9/11, I don't think all of them were necessary because of 9/11. Iraq for example, to me, has nothing to do with 9/11.

[ChumpDumper]

He'll be known as the 9/11 president -- and everyone will wonder WTF he was thinking when he invaded Iraq since it had nothing to do with 9/11.

[TheMadHatter]

He will be known as the dumbest and worst President of our generation, God willing.

He set the bar so low, a woman like Sarah Palin could actually win the Republican nomination. He is likable, but a terrible terrible terrible President.

And Nono, you get my point right? Of course I can't say definitively what would have happened in a theoretical situation. It's just like sports. It's like me saying the Bobcats would have won the NBA Finals had they made it. You can't disprove me, but you'd probably think I was an idiot for saying that. So yes I can attack anyone on their reasoning and analytical skills which is what I did. If I couldn't, this forum would cease to exist because that's all we do here.

[ElNono]

He will be known as the dumbest and worst President of our generation, God willing.

He set the bar so low, a woman like Sarah Palin could actually win the Republican nomination. He is likable, but a terrible terrible terrible President.

And Nono, you get my point right? Of course I can't say definitively what would have happened in a theoretical situation. It's just like sports. It's like me saying the Bobcats would have won the NBA Finals had they made it. You can't disprove me, but you'd probably think I was an idiot for saying that. So yes I can attack anyone on their reasoning and analytical skills which is what I did. If I couldn't, this forum would cease to exist because that's all we do here.

I would tell you history is not on your side.
I would definitely not call you an idiot for thinking that. Remember what happened when Golden State beat Dallas? What were the odds of that?
That's why they play the games. And don't get me wrong, I actually think dubya was the worst President that I recall, but I think we might need more time to put everything in perspective.

[bresilhac]

Without a doubt George Bush has been a colossally bad president. From the bottomless pit of the ill-conceived Iraqi Occupation to the Valerie Plame outrage president Bush is already viewed currently as the worst president of all time. I think history will be an even harsher critic as time passes. Truly horrible.