Ginobili: Where Does He Rank Among SG's?

[MarHill]

The only other shooting guards I would take over Manu is Kobe and Wade! And it's really close

Manu's intangibles and his ultra compe iveness and ability to make plays when he's not shooting well are second to none in basketball.

He is definitely the X-Factor for the Spurs!!!

[galvatron3000]

I'd take Manu over Wade because I think Manu is a better shooter and passer. Wade is probabyl stronger but that doesn't come into play because I've never seen Wade post up anyone, not saying he hasn't I just don't recall seeing. Both can get to the basket so that's null. Manu has the height advangtage so you can exploit that when shooting over other. Manu has the better 3 point shot. Manu will make the play for his teammates, Wade will too so that's null. Wade will score more points consistently because that's his role, Manu doesn't have to but when called upon he carry the burden well so to me that's null, debatable but null to ME.

The only advantage I give Kobe is his ability to post up using his height and strength.

Manu is top 5 SG no question but I'm sure if given some thought he's top 10-15 of the stars in the league and stats never really tell what Manu's value is all Spurs fans no this and opponents do too.

[Dartherus]

It's very difficult to have great stats in a winning team, sepacially in a very collective and defensive one like the Spurs.

Check Pierce when Boston was crap or Garnett for in Minnessota instance, they had huge stats in crappy teams, now both had their stats lowered in a winning team...as far as I remember, Pierce is scoring around 18 ppg in 37 mpg, Manu scores more in less minutes....so, that's the point, stats on crappy teams are not as worthy as the ones gotten in winning teams.

[Double-Up]

TMac was arguably more impressive when he played for the Magic and commanded all the shots. He's had to defer ever since going to Houston, and it's gone downhill since.

I still rate Ginobili Top 3.

Kobe
Wade
Ginobili
T-Mac
Johnson

Wade hasn't necessarily been an example of good health, so I think the same argument goes for him, Manu, and Tracy.

To me, McGrady and Johnson both lose points for wasting talent. McGrady has to be the most talented player in the league to never see the second round, and for all of his ability, JJ hasn't been able to doing anything that matters since he left Phoenix.

Ginobili doesn't put up the same numbers as Johnson, and is probably not as talented as McGrady, but he's a proven winner. He's fearless, he's clutch, and he's made it happen on the big stage before. Wade and Kobe are the only other two who can say that AND put up better numbers.

I'd rather go somebody who is gonna win games than somebody who is gonna fill stats any day.

I think T-Mac even now is more talented than Ginobil, but talent means mothing unless you use it properly so you gotta take Manu over him everytime. Kobe, Wade, Manu, Johnson, T-Mac, Roy, Allen are my top 7.

[Ginobilirules]

i'm not gonna waste my intellect or time on mr rascal"" there and idiots like you who don't know your head, from your ass"" let alone what the real facts are: anybody with true b-ball knowledge knows that Manu is better than wade in every facet of the game, anytime you've won les on each level of competion, and are one the most important factors, not too mention many times the first option, on any given night like manu is, plus three les is more than one"" DUH"" here's your sign, idiot'" and you can't fix stupid," your denial of these facts is PATHETIC"" and you are a boggus spurs, fan, let alone nba fan. i'm speaking from an nba standpoint of overall best"" not overblown, ballhogging stats"". think what you want in your little brain, but what i've told is{ facts,} not opinions. Manu doesn't make the stupid mistakes wade does with being TO PRONE, not too mention wade gets shutdown, on defense many times, by my very spurs, MANU DOESN'T GET SHUTDOWN'' he passes the ball and finds the open player, when he's caught in tight traffic, never forcing the issue like wade often does. also, MANU dominates in ways wade could only dream of, don't get me wrong, dwayne is a very good player , but Ginobili has already proven to be a superstar GREAT"" player, tremendous"" not just very good, like wade. Manu is currently a cpl notches better as an overall player easy to see that too"" unless you're blind, like you guys that are denial about admitting this fact. it has to do overall talent, smarts, toughness, and icewater"" in the vains killer instinct, Manu has that and is right behind only kobe by a slim margin in this area, taking your heart out." wade forces the issue, thinks he's a hero"' when he's not on the level that both kobe and Manu are. checkout youtube the video led: [Manu Ginobili/Kobe Bryant]do the exact same things with the same results, wade isn't quite near that level yet. sorry truth hurts"" rascal, harlem, and others who are blinded by these facts, not opinions.