better point put LBJ on last year's Lakers do they win ...still no ...
Ok sow how Did LBJ let that happen in game 7?
How did MJ get outplayed by Penny in his 1st year back from baseball? Silly argument ...just like the MJ would of won 6 straight les won you fools have no respect for Olajawon way to blind to ESPN hype ...MJ was the best of the 90's but nOT infallible ...
Last edited by Killakobe81; 01-16-2009 at 02:15 PM.
Just stop really.....
You probably never even seen Jordan play. The way you write about him makes feel you a vested interest in keeping his legacy alive. It's like the dude never made a mistake or never got outperformed. Please.....It's all timing my friend. Was he a beast in the playoffs...yes, but didn't do well until he got some talent and coaching around him. This goes for every special player out there.
Kobe choked. that is the main reason they lost. take your homer glasses off and face reality.
Jordan would easily have won last year. He would have absolutely owned Paul Pierce. . comeon is this for real??????
Kobe let Garnett get a ring.
And to be honest I really dont care if LBJ is the best individual player in the NBA ...i still think both duncan and Kobe are the best inside outside players in the game ...even though Howard and LBJ are more dominant on a nightly basis ...come playoff time im pretty sure that will be proven out ...
when did Jordan get outperformed after he won his first championship???? name 1 playoff series.
Silly ....Ok Duncan let Dirk get to a Finals ....and win an MVP and eliminate the Spurs from a back2back some of you are so ignorant on here ...
Kobe choked. that is the main reason they lost. take your homer glasses off and face reality.
Jordan would easily have won last year. He would have absolutely owned Paul Pierce. . comeon is this for real??????
Kobe let Garnett get a ring.
absolutely. I am not delusional to say Duncan is better or as good as Jordan. lakerfan on the other hand...
The Celtic's defense was geared towards stopping one player, Kobe Bryant. It was up to his teammates to step it up and they were unable to do so. The Celtics held Lebron to freaking 19% shooting for the 1st couple of games, give them some credit.
Kobe choked. that is the main reason they lost. take your homer glasses off and face reality.
Jordan would easily have won last year. He would have absolutely owned Paul Pierce. . comeon is this for real??????
Kobe let Garnett get a ring.
Jordan would have scored a few more points than Kobe at a higher percentage but that really wouldn't make a difference in the final outcome.
The Lakers didn't lose because of their offense. They lost because of their defense. Michael Jordan does not make Pau Gasol a protector at the rim, he doesn't make the Lakers physical and tough in the paint, he doesn't make the Lakers rebound better, he doesn't turn Radmanovich into an all-world defender to stop Pierce, he doesn't stop Ray Allen from going nuts from behind the arc. In all the areas the Lakers needed help in defensively, Jordan doesn't change much. He's only one man and could only guard one player at a time. Hence, the end result is the same.
Yeah, I've never seen Jordan play.
Except.... OOPS. I'm from Chicago. I could give you personal accounts of the ridiculousness of the celebrations in Chicago, especially for the first two les. Nice try, but you fail miserably.
And you DEFINITELY have no interest in keeping comparisons of Kobe to the GOAT alive, do you? Nope, not at all. You're completely unbiased in this situation.
You Laker fans are just ing pathetic. Do you really think ANYONE is listening to your ridiculous tripe about how good Kobe is?
Jordan is a much better player than Duncan. Just like he's a much better player than Kobe, and a much better player than James. I'm not saying LeBron is a better player than Jordan. He isn't CLOSE yet. But neither is Kobe.
Im NOt argouing that Kobe is better than MJ my point is Kobe is better than LBJ ....don't pin that on me in fact I dont think Kobe is better than Magic yet ....
ok, now you are just being stupid. Celtics defense is nothing compared to the defenses that Jordan faced. He beat the bad boys of Detroit. Kobe would have cried to his momma if he ever faced that defense.
in Jordan's championship years, opposing teams defense was absolutely geared to stop Jordan. and they couldn't. and the defenses they played back then is immensely superior to today's defenses.
The rules have changed now, Jordan, in today's league would absolutely anihilate the celtics defense.
Lakers fans are amazingly delusional.
ok some of you guy's hatred for kobe is ridiculous. yes jordan is the GOAT and if you say kobe is "no where near MJ" "doesnt belong in the same galaxy" "is a rapist" etc......... yall are just hating and you know it. kobe belongs in the same sentence as jordan because he is the best in the game in his time, plays both ends of the floor, is the best at closing games in his era, the most feared player with time winding down, and has multiple championships
I think LeBron is a little more of a natural facilitator than a natural scorer. IMO he'd be perfectly happy as the second scoring option on a team. He doesn't need to score a lot to be effective. He is more athletic than Magic, to be sure. I'm thinking more in terms of the ability to dominate a game without taking or making a lot of shots, which they both have.
The irony of this never-ending Kobe-LeBron debate is that they'd make perfect teammates. LeBron would gladly let Kobe take the shots down the stretch and play the Pippen role, I think.
that would be ridiculous........ if they were on the lakers =D. but i agree with you. lebron can dominate a game much like magic, without being a scoring factor
I said Kobe wasn't in the same universe as MJ. I didn't mean it as a slam on Kobe, just as a show of reverence for MJ, the greatest performer and compe or I've ever seen on a basketball court. Doesn't mean I don't think Kobe is great- he is. He just isn't MJ.
Actually the Celtic's defense was statistically one of the best the league has ever seen. Don't discredit them, I would rank their D last season as right up their with the all-time great defenses.
QFT. This is one of the most ridiculous threads ever on Spurstalk. And that's saying a of a lot.
He def isnt MJ, but if kobe is great, just as compe ive as jordan and the greatest performer right now, how is he not in the same universe? how many universes do you know?
do you see my point? kobe is no MJ. and showing reverence for MJ is not only justifiable but its expected, but kobe IS the closest thing to MJ this league has ever seen and probably will be unless wade goes ape nuts in the next decade
No, it was being mentally weak that killed them. Jordan wouldn't have blown that huge lead the Lakers had. The Lakers blew a few other leads as well. And what was Kobe doing when the bleeding started? Absolutely nothing. He watched and didn't do jack , other than shoot jumpers, while Jordan would have been driving his ass off.
I can't agree with that, because the reason the Lakers kept blowing leads and such, was because they did not stay aggressive, and settled for too many jumpers, and no one was more guilty of that than Kobe.
Lebron absolutely outplayed Pierce in game 7. He was playing his ass off. Unfortunately he didn't get much help from his team, as well as the officials, allowing Garnett to get away with all kinds of moving screens and crap.
This was probably mentioned but on TNT they had a stat (i forgot exactly what it was), but it basically was LBJ's skill in clutch end of game situations and he was some ridiculous #, 3-33; something along those lines.
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