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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Another thing that occurred to me while I was running errands a bit ago

    [sic]

    In the case of everyone I know or have met, the overwhelming majority have been far more diligent in dieting, changing their eating habits, exercising, and trying to lose weight than I ever have. It's just a really hard thing to do.
    See, I cant say the same thing by a looooongshot. Gluttons and proud of it with little to no effort at all. Totally comfortable in their own skin.

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    Yet I am being lambasted for stating the obvious, that statistically speaking, well over half of the overweight people in this country are addicted to food! Its frickin true!
    I can't speak for anyone else, but if you think that's why you're being lambasted by me, you've missed my point just as completely as you feel everyone else has missed yours.

    My only argument in this thread, since page one, is that it's really ugly and uncool to blindly judge people (for any reason, really, but obviously this thread centers around weight). That's it. I don't doubt, not for an instant, that many people are overweight for no other reason than they like to eat. I don't doubt that there are people who are perfectly comfortable with their bad choices and who have made countless excuses to justify those choices. I just don't think that is something we can/should assume about anyone we happen to see walking down the street.

    The reason I initially responded to Wild Cobra's post was because I was bothered by the at ude, and I see it often, that says fat and wearing spandex is automatically equal to disgusting human being. That, to me, is a tremendous (and unfair) leap.

    And, while I certainly don't agree with the idea that ridicule, regardless the degree or the relationship, is in anyway good or constructive, that hasn't been my main argument with you. If you and your friends are good with it, knock yourselves out; I have a healthy joking relationship with my friends, as well. My MAIN argument with you, the point where I really disagree vehemently, is in the idea that it is okay or right to see someone who is overweight and make an assumption as to how or why they are overweight and/or to make a judgment about that person based on such an assumption. You've argued repeatedly that, hey, everyone does it, which is absolutely true. Everyone does do that. Everyone makes assumptions and snap judgments. I've acknowledged that repeatedly. Even that I'm not free from that behavior myself. My point, once more, is that I think it is really unfortunate that we, as a society, have grown so accepting of (and reliant upon) those assumptions and snap judgments.

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    I can't speak for anyone else, but if you think that's why you're being lambasted by me, you've missed my point just as completely as you feel everyone else has missed yours.

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    Even that I'm not free from that behavior myself. My point, once more, is that I think it is really unfortunate that we, as a society, have grown so accepting of (and reliant upon) those assumptions and snap judgments.
    Philosophical, then. I wasnt ever trying to argue from that standpoint and it certainly pertains. Well, I cant argue against your point or its merit. And yes, I did miss it entirely. Thats on me, not you. Reading comprehension and all that...

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    Again, I qualify as clinically obese and have for almost all of my life. I can run for miles and I have an athletic history that is significant, but no matter how accomplished I have ever been as an athlete, there's been virtually no point in my life when I didn't qualify as clinically obese. The new year has brought a lifestyle change for me -- one that includes working out 5-6 times a week for at least an hour of cardio each day. The trainer who developed my program informed me that, at best, with good diet habits and continued commitment to the workout plan, I can expect to reach a weight that would drop me from clinically obese to clinically overweight -- and only barely.

    Where, exactly, is the lack of discipline in any of that?

    This reminds me of the conversation timvp and I had at the AJ retirement jersey game...

    timvp: so why do you hate FWDT?

    whottt: I don't hate FWDT, I like FWDT immensely, I'm invited him to the site from SR when you first invited me. I just like to with him because he's a laywer and has this kind of just the facts mentality. His responses are just funny to me sometimes. Plus he is a lawyer and they should be given just on principle.

    timvp: Oh, well you talk smack to him a lot so I just figured didn't like him.

    whottt: No, I like him him a great deal, that's why I invited him to the site when I left SR. Smart guy and tends to have an educated and well founded opinion and I usually look forward to his contributions to threads on the forum ...he needs some major work on his Hakeem > Drob belief though. Anyway I talk smack to everyone, not as much to him as most.
    Besides he's just a lawyer...if he gets pissed off he'll get over it.

    timvp: I think he played offensive line in college or something like that.

    whottt: .

    timvp: *mysterious smile*

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    You can try and bull your way through what you meant when you said:



    ..and try and pass it off as my original meaning all you'd like. When I made my comments "poking fun" or getting "busted on", I made it a clear reference to those close to me, not complete strangers as youre trying to characterize in the above quote, and you know it.

    Youre garnering support like a good politician does.

    EDITED: , you even did my work for me. You didnt take the quote out of context...thanks.

    right......I'm the one spinning it......

    justify your friendly jabs any way you want. don't be surprised if people start leaving you out of their fave five

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    lol, fat people.

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    Another thing that occurred to me while I was running errands a bit ago (and, yes, I realize it's somewhat sad that I was thinking about this place while running errands, but I'm okay with that) is that I don't know a single overweight/obese person who hasn't made numerous attempts to change their lifestyle. Not one. As mentioned earlier, obesity is quite common on my mom's side of the family and between family and friends, I know and care for several people who have battled weight issues. None of whom have ever just thrown up their hands and said " it, I'm just fat, bring on the Krispy Kremes." Granted, I'm sure there are many people who have said that, but it is another example of an at ude/choice that simply cannot be assumed.

    In the case of everyone I know or have met, the overwhelming majority have been far more diligent in dieting, changing their eating habits, exercising, and trying to lose weight than I ever have. It's just a really hard thing to do.

    but once the goal is not met, and they make the decision to abandon whatever changes they made.....aren't they basically saying " it?"

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    Well that guy - Joe Esposito/Nomad or whatever he wants to call himself was obviously just being an ass to be an ass. I heard that happens sometimes when you haven't been laid in years. But I wouldn't know.
    Hey, hey, hey don't blame that on me. I didn't post that , and its romad with an r. I have two other people that I work with that post on this site with trolls, but not me. I was actually trying to contribute, but whatever.
    Last edited by romad_20; 01-22-2009 at 11:46 AM.

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    I can't speak for anyone else, but if you think that's why you're being lambasted by me, you've missed my point just as completely as you feel everyone else has missed yours.

    My only argument in this thread, since page one, is that it's really ugly and uncool to blindly judge people (for any reason, really, but obviously this thread centers around weight). That's it. I don't doubt, not for an instant, that many people are overweight for no other reason than they like to eat. I don't doubt that there are people who are perfectly comfortable with their bad choices and who have made countless excuses to justify those choices. I just don't think that is something we can/should assume about anyone we happen to see walking down the street.

    The reason I initially responded to Wild Cobra's post was because I was bothered by the at ude, and I see it often, that says fat and wearing spandex is automatically equal to disgusting human being. That, to me, is a tremendous (and unfair) leap.

    And, while I certainly don't agree with the idea that ridicule, regardless the degree or the relationship, is in anyway good or constructive, that hasn't been my main argument with you. If you and your friends are good with it, knock yourselves out; I have a healthy joking relationship with my friends, as well. My MAIN argument with you, the point where I really disagree vehemently, is in the idea that it is okay or right to see someone who is overweight and make an assumption as to how or why they are overweight and/or to make a judgment about that person based on such an assumption. You've argued repeatedly that, hey, everyone does it, which is absolutely true. Everyone does do that. Everyone makes assumptions and snap judgments. I've acknowledged that repeatedly. Even that I'm not free from that behavior myself. My point, once more, is that I think it is really unfortunate that we, as a society, have grown so accepting of (and reliant upon) those assumptions and snap judgments.


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    I would say that fat people and smokers are the new blacks in America.

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    I don't really know much about anorexic people and what their status is with the ADA. Maybe they have a real gripe.

    Smokers don't have any gripes. Just because you light up a cigarette on occasion doesn't mean you should get the handicap plates.
    But gaining weight to the point of looking and moving like Jabba The Hutt should gain you a sticker?

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    so don't think for a minute that fat people aren't treated poorly in this country
    They can get a double bacon cheeseburger, jumbo fries, and a coke (diet of course) for under $5. I think this country is treating them just fine.

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    this reminds me of something i've been meaning to post here, why do fat women use the woman's only section/women's only gyms. Silly fatties those aren't for you.

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    Yeah ... that makes perfect sense.

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    Yeah ... that makes perfect sense.
    the woman's only section if because chicks got tired of dudes hitting on them at the gym, fatties don't need to worry about that. The logic is sound

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    the woman's only section if because chicks got tired of dudes hitting on them at the gym, fatties don't need to worry about that. The logic is sound
    win

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    the woman's only section if because chicks got tired of dudes hitting on them at the gym, fatties don't need to worry about that. The logic is sound
    Maybe they do it so as not to be ridiculed about being fat by men like you who find their jollies in making fun of other peoples' appearance.

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    Maybe they do it so as not to be ridiculed about being fat by men like you who find their jollies in making fun of other peoples' appearance.

    Pretty much ... but it sure gives us all a little insight to his fabulously successful track record with the ladies.

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    them fat people, where do they get the money from to buy all them snacks?

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    Maybe they do it so as not to be ridiculed about being fat by men like you who find their jollies in making fun of other peoples' appearance.
    That's a little pretentious of fatties to assume that guys care care what they look like when they are working out. Most guys only break their workout concentration to a)look at hot chicks or b) look at hot chicks. Guys work out so they don't have to settle for fatties.
    Last edited by Trainwreck2100; 06-10-2009 at 12:57 AM.

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    That's a little pretentious of fatties to assume that guys care care what they look like when they are working out. Most guys only break their workout concentration to a)look at hot chicks or b) look at hot chicks. Guys work out so they don't have to settle for fatties.
    Clearly it's a legitimate concern, since you've paid enough attention to notice that they are working out where (you feel) they shouldn't be.

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    Clearly it's a legitimate concern, since you've paid enough attention to notice that they are working out where (you feel) they shouldn't be.

    not by choice, i was looking in the women's only section to see what the big deal was. I see fat; i turn away; i come to the epiphany that fat chicks don't need to work out there cause guys don't give a about you fatty.

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    i would like to add that a guy would give a about a fatty if she was ecclipsing 2 hot chicks.









    get out of the way fatty

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    not by choice, i was looking in the women's only section hoping to see hot chicks. I see fat; i turn away; i come to the epiphany that fat chicks don't need to work out there cause guys don't give a about you fatty.
    Not giving a =/= coming home and posting about it.

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    Not giving a =/= coming home and posting about it.
    you misunderstand i don't give a about what a fatty looks like when she works out. I do give a that fatty THINKS a guy gives a about what she looks like working out

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