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Still?
When does the next Chili's open up in SA?
Still?
I'll give you one. "Fairnness Doctrine." Absolutely nothing fair about it. It sounds nice, and reasons are given to make it sound fair, but only fools believe it.
Yep, people will claim the are not for it. Well, I'm not for murder either. There are very few reasons why I would murder anyone. But there are a few I would if it were legal.
To destroy innocence is flat out evil. I can never approve of it.
You obviously ignore the spiritual aspect. Can you deny we all have a life force within us that defies known science?
You've seen way too many movies.
I thought it was because Obama was the anti-christ? Or possibly could be?
Note: God did not grant their wishes because they did the right thing. He granted their wishes because they were fearful of him.
I'm sorry for you. You obviously never had a spiritual awakening. I have.
You've seen way too many movies.
lsd's a of a drug. god '98 was a fun yr indeed and a very enlightening one too.
No, it wouldn't have. Your question is invalid because I am talking about God's view on the value of human life and you are talking about a human's view on the value of life. Every life God creates is priceless in His eyes and He views them all in that way. Humans make the mistake of saying certain lives are more valuable than others. If you give me a hypothetical situation "for God" then I will be happy to answer it but any decision a human makes is through a flawed perspective.
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Ploto, your nitpicking is nonsense.
You know very well that pro-life is a term associated with ones stance on abortion.
Since Senator McCain opposes abortion I am entirely accurate in labeling him pro life.
I never said he anything about whether Senator McCain was pro- death penalty or anti death penalty.
You are missing the entire point. As someone who is pro-life I am bothered by the political use of the term to apply to those who oppose abortion but who do not oppose the death penalty or torture or other issues that just as clearly threaten the sanc y of human life. If you were truly, fully pro-life, you could not call McCain pro-life, any moreso than you could rightfully call Bush pro-life. This inconsistency in policy as not really holding to any one ideal is a big part of the conversation on the issue.
I also noticed that you did not answer my question about being as equally bothered by your government killing someone in your name as a citizen, especially when we all know innocent people have been put to death through the death penalty.
Oh you're one of "those" people.
Dostoyevsky is great. And Kierkegaard is wayyy too depressing. I think he couldn't reconcile his existentialism with his religion without depression/angst.
god's view? i don't get it... am i re ed or am i just missing something here? so this all encompassing god actually has a view on such minuscule things as our lives and what we do with them? and not only that but you know his/her/its view on such a subject? damn and i thought i have done too many drugs.
so your god or god is human or an animal or an insect or something with eyes atleast? wow. mine is purely metaphysical, an ideology if you will.
hypothetical huh? open the bible up and please by all means tell me you believe every damn thing in there. hypothetically of course.
You might not like the use of the term but it is what it is and it is widely used as it is, so concerning yourself over it, in my opinion is a waste of energy.
When I say I am pro-life people know that I am anti-abortion.
So people know that I am against the death penalty- which I am 100% in all cir stances- I say that I am anti death penalty.
Say we were to survey 100 people on the street and ask what they think someone means when they say they are "pro-life."
My guess is that at least 95% of them will say that means the person is against abortion.
I highly doubt any of the 100 would associate the term with an individuals stance on the death penalty because the term is not used in that context in discussions- at least none I have ever heard of.
If the rest of you feel I am wrong, please say so.
I am really curious to know.
I bet you would
echoing CF, I don't think anyone approves of killing babies....To destroy innocence is flat out evil. I can never approve of it.
but abortion isn't a black and white issue and you are a fool if you look at it as such.
Yes, but we must see things from our own eyes, no? I think in this case, it would be acceptable, both for yourself and for the rest of society, to choose the individual more likely to be a 'better' person, if you were in fact forced to choose.
You're for the death penalty, right? Is it your contention that everyone who is killed by the death penalty was guilty?
now if only you would have a mental awakening
You answer questions Luv, but you always make sure to avoid the obvious implications behind them. Why don't you respond to his contention that you should not just support politicians due to a pro or anti-abortion stance? Do you take into account support for the death penalty, for wars, for torture when you look at these politicians?
It's his position that a few mistakes are the necessary price of law and order. The only alternative is anarchy.
Improper incarcerations happen from time to time. Use that as a test, then you would be one to advocate no penalties, in fear of those very few improperly jailed. Eliminate law enforcement. Simply have a chaotic society.
Nothing is ever perfect. It's a chance we must all live with to ensure a better society.
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no, but that should not be a reason to get rid of the death penalty.
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