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Gooden is a major up grade offensively and defensively over the ole' defense.
mobile bigs Bynum 7-0, Odom 6-10, Gasol 7-0
mobile bigs Duncan 6-11
Add 6-10 Gooden or go with Oberto, Thomas and Bonner and the slow foot ole' defense.
nuf said.
all 3 of those guys are better defenders than gooden...and it's not particularly close.
bonner at least gives effort on that end of the floor. gooden's a good athlete, but he's got one of the lowest basketball IQs in all the league. maybe one of the lowest IQs period.
Gooden is a major up grade offensively and defensively over the ole' defense.
mobile bigs Bynum 7-0, Odom 6-10, Gasol 7-0
mobile bigs Duncan 6-11
Add 6-10 Gooden or go with Oberto, Thomas and Bonner and the slow foot ole' defense.
nuf said.
Basically.
gooden is currently the master of the ole defenders. he simply stands flat footed as his man barrels past.
being able to move your feet and being willing to move your feet are two different things.
for the record, im fine with signing gooden, but its not for his defense...
The footspeed matters moreso as it relates to tracking down long boards and loose balls. He's not going to shut anyone down, but if he limits the freaking 2nd chance opportunities for opponents that will be a big help.
1. I think we're going to take Gooden and say goodbye to PMB for now.
2. We need some better offense and rebounding from a big for those times when Timmy's not on the court. Like it or not, TD won't play 48 minutes a night from here to the end of the season. We need some kind of offense and rebounding inside for those times. Bonner doesn't rebound well and the only offense he provides is outside. Thomas is good on D and OK on rebounding but gets his points from an inconsistent mid-range jumper. Oberto provides some decent D and is only occasionally contributive on the offensive side.
3. Gooden won't be pretty. He might make some bonehead plays that lead Pop to nail him to the bench. But the fact is, we need someone inside who can be a threat to score and pull down some rebounds. He's a veteran who played for a while on a team with a system closest to ours (Cavs).
4. Did anyone on this board REALLY think PMB would get any meaningful time in the playoffs? Pops wouldn't put him in until about 8 mins. left in yesterday's game. There's no way PMB would see any playoff time unless catastrophic injuries hobbled our other frontline players. With Gooden, there's at least a chance he could play some productive, meaningful minutes in the playoffs. There's a chance his bad D and general stupidity would lead Pop to keep him on the bench indefinitely, but there's also a chance this might not happen. With PMB, I think its certain he would see no meaningful time in the playoffs. Pop just doesn't play young guys who are new to the system.
5. So I think we're all just going to have to bite the Gooden bullet and hope for the best. Hope we can coach his D up a bit, hope he doesn't do stupid like forget who he's guarding or whatever. The fact remains though, he is a legitimate scoring and rebounding big man. He's done it in the league for years. I know SA plays by a different set of rules and many "legit" NBA players would never see the floor for us and vice versa, but I think its fair to say for we SA fans and the team, anything less than a championship is failure, and Gooden is a chance we'll have to take to compete against the best in the West and East.
I dont see how this is even a close arguement
Gooden > Pops
Very good post.
How did this get to eight pages? The only guy on a 10-day contract is going to get cut if the Spurs add someone...anyone.
Gooden isn't a star by any means but he is a legitimate nba player, and at the very least would be an incredibly cheap insurance policy for the Spurs. Even if he could help out for five minutes in one playoff game, he'd be worth it.
Whottt's typical melodramatic histrionic outburst sounds exactly like his pre-presidential election posts, where he was absolutely certain that the USA would never elect a man with a strange sounding middle name. He was wrong then, and he's wrong now.
I'm not totally in the Hairston bandwagon. I'm not sure he has what it takes to be a nba player even if at this stage having him instead of Ime is an upgrade.
I'd prefer staying with Pops. Of course we don't know that if he is nba material but at least he has the height, this kind of height and athletism is not so commun nowadays to let him go.
I'm just going to say that I'd like Pops to stay if we sign anyone else, but if we do, he's most likely to go since he's on a 10-day. I think Gooden is a good pick-up that could improve our squad, but he has to be willing to shave that ridiculous beard.
Also, I'd like to clarify that Ben Wallace has a broken fibula, NOT a femur. He'd be ed if it was his femur, but that would be pretty much impossible in a b-ball game. Didn't anyone pay attention in anatomy class?
I could care less about his crazy and heinous medusa beard. I kind of like it. He could have a horn growing out of his head for all I care. Just rebound the damn ball and score against opponents like when he has played against us.
Because many people on this site are so desperate for the Spurs to do SOMETHING.
As long as he has some sort of name recognition, he must be good...right?
we need another big, it doesn't matter who it is..getting Drew Gooden on a cheap contract is a great move, it doesn't really make a difference what the negative people think..I haven't seen a good argument against it..
I agree with this just personally hope they would waive Udoka simply because he isn't going to help them, not currently in the rotation and need Bigs more. By the way he is likely to not be re-signed. I think we have plenty on the perimeter even with Manu hurt.
Last night my brother, my cousin and myself kept yelling, "Put in Pops!"
When they finally did, all we kept saying was "Lob it up!" even before the ball past the halfcourt line.
Look, the guy is athletic as and had a nice debut. What we can gather from that is the guy is athletic as and had a nice debut in meaningless minutes.
Could the guy be good? Sure. Could he suck? Sure. Who knows?
I just think that posters here have made him out to be way more than he is at the moment.
I'd say by by to Usucka and keep Pops who has some rawness. Gooden could not be any worse than Fab or Kurt.
Popovich spoke at length with Gooden during the courtship process that followed his release by the Kings.
“Pop and Drew had some great conversations through this whole process, from both perspectives,” Buford said. “The feedback I got is that they both felt really comfortable with each other.”
Popovich told Gooden the Spurs not only wanted him on their roster, they needed him to have their best shot at winning another championship.
“It was knowing there is want for me here,” Gooden said of his talks with his new head coach. “Not just ‘We’re glad you’re here.’ It was more like, ‘We need you here, and not just for this season.’
“Hearing that was something I was looking for. It wasn’t just ‘Help us try to win a championship this year and then we’ll see what happens in the summer.’.”
Looks like you were right on this one whott
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