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    Ian will be a success elsewhere, much to the surprise of ignorant Spurs fans.

    As someones whos watched him in many pro games I would be shocked if he had success...

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    It would be fairly amusing if the Spurs fail to sign Splitter while at the same time losing Mahinmi. It would be a day of celebration for Bonner-fans.
    So your hoping for the Spurs to do bad.

    Awesome...

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    Bonner's agent doesn't exactly say that.

    But yeah, chances aren't good to see Ian back with Spurs. I hope he will succeed elsewhere.

    He does too say Bonner wants to go back

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    As someones whos watched him in many pro games I would be shocked if he had success...
    you'll be shocked

    So your hoping for the Spurs to do bad.

    Awesome...
    I hope the Spurs get both Splitter and Ian and actually play guys who aren't chokers.

    But I recognize the humor of the situation even should it turn out bad.

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    you'll be shocked
    I stopped expecting shock when the Spurs passed on an extension for Ian but offered it to Hairston's very NBDL-level skillz. Seriously: did you watch his SL play last year? It was comical, brother.

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    I can see the Bobcats picking him up

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    I think Ian will sign with Mavs.

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    I hope he goes to a crappy team that can let him play through his flurries of fouls. Good teams will yank him quickly.

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    If Carlisle wouldn't let Beaubois play through his mistakes, then it doesn't look good for Ian. Plus add in all the other bodies the Mavs always have, it will be hard for Ian to even get in ahead of a re-signed Haywood, a new Mav Shaq, and whatever other characters they bring in.

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    I think Ian will sign with Mavs.

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    I think Ian will sign with Mavs.
    Is that a FU Pop by any chance?

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    Is that a FU Pop by any chance?
    No, Ian really like Pop even if he was in his doghouse.

    Dallas is just a guess of my part and not some kind of inside info. Mahinmi's agent is very close to Mavs and Mavs have very few bigmen under contract.

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    Ian to the Mavs is a possibility. It looks like Dampier won't be back. The Mavs could cut Dampier or trade him in order to avoid paying him $13 million. Dampier wants the full MLE and the Mavs are unwilling to offer that.

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    I think Ian will sign with Mavs.
    Christ. No.

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    I think Ian will sign with Mavs.
    Naturally. The Spurs hadn't gifted that Texas franchise a young, talented bigman yet.

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    Just curious, do the Spurs still own Ian's bird rights even though they declined his option?
    No, they surrendered their Bird rights.

    And Bruno can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the Spurs are limited to only paying him the same amount as his declined option if they don't use an exception to sign him.

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    Just curious, do the Spurs still own Ian's bird rights even though they declined his option?
    Yes. The Spurs have full bird rights on Ian, but they're restricted to only being able to pay him what the 4th year option would have been in the 1st year of a new contract. At least that's how I understand it.
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    Just to add at what has been said, Ian's fourth year option was $1,786,354.

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    Just to add at what has been said, Ian's fourth year option was $1,786,354.
    Convert that to today's free agency dollars and that's like a buck fitty.

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    Just to add at what has been said, Ian's fourth year option was $1,786,354.
    Convert that to today's free agency dollars and that's like a buck fitty.
    To be fair, they did decline the option before y J opted out. Having said that, I'm not sure if they would have picked up the option even if they had known things would go down as they did. I'd like to think that they would have. Ian for 1.7mil doesn't exactly scream "albatross" to me.

    No, they surrendered their Bird rights.

    And Bruno can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the Spurs are limited to only paying him the same amount as his declined option if they don't use an exception to sign him.
    Correct..........I think

    Yes. The Spurs have full bird rights on Ian, but they're restricted to only being able to pay him what the 4th year option would have been in the 1st year of a new contract. At least that's how I understand it.
    As I understand it, full bird rights would include the ability to offer him anywhere from a vet minimum to max contract despite being over the cap. By definition then, they do not have "full bird rights"..........I think.

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    To clarify the "bird rights" situation of Mahinmi:
    Spurs have limited bird rights with Mahinmi. Without using an exception (MLE, LLE or in salary), Spurs can sign to a 1 to 6 years contract with 10.5% raises and whose starting salary is between $885,120 (the min salary for him) and $1,786,354.

    Saying that, if Spurs are really interested in bringing back Bonner, it means that they aren't interested in Mahinmi, even for the min. Spurs front court will be full with Duncan, Splitter, Blair, Dice, Bonner and Richards.

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    To clarify the "bird rights" situation of Mahinmi:
    Spurs have limited bird rights with Mahinmi. Without using an exception (MLE, LLE or in salary), Spurs can sign to a 1 to 6 years contract with 10.5% raises and whose starting salary is between $885,120 (the min salary for him) and $1,786,354.

    Saying that, if Spurs are really interested in bringing back Bonner, it means that they aren't interested in Mahinmi, even for the min. Spurs front court will be full with Duncan, Splitter, Blair, Dice, Bonner and Richards.
    ...something for the life of me, I can't understand. Even if they don't want Ian around, I still don't understand WHY Bonner is invited back. If the Spurs weren't a playoff team, I could understand it. Because that's the only time he's able to play is in the regular season.

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    To clarify the "bird rights" situation of Mahinmi:
    Spurs have limited bird rights with Mahinmi. Without using an exception (MLE, LLE or in salary), Spurs can sign to a 1 to 6 years contract with 10.5% raises and whose starting salary is between $885,120 (the min salary for him) and $1,786,354.

    Saying that, if Spurs are really interested in bringing back Bonner, it means that they aren't interested in Mahinmi, even for the min. Spurs front court will be full with Duncan, Splitter, Blair, Dice, Bonner and Richards.
    I understand that your considering Splitter as a certainty... But are you really sure about Richards? I know he talked about coming over, but I question if the Spurs are willing to commit a roster spot (and the associated salary) to such a raw player, when he could develop much better in a lesser league

    PS. Are you certain Bonner will be back? I would be exploring other options (Tolliver, for example) if I wanted a shooting big for the Spurs...

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    But are you really sure about Richards?
    Richards singing with Spurs is likely. His mom said that Spurs unlike some other NBA teams, that wanted to let him overseas, were ready to sign him.

    Richards coming or not will have few impact on Mahinmi's case. Richards will be Spurs 6th PF/C who spend the whole year on the inactive list and in Austin. If Spurs sign Mahinmi, it's to be at least the 5th PF/C and to play some minutes with Spurs.

    PS. Are you certain Bonner will be back? I would be exploring other options (Tolliver, for example) if I wanted a shooting big for the Spurs...
    I'm not sure Bonner will be back but what is sure is that Spurs have contacted him and that there are no places for Bonner and Mahinmi if Splitter is signed.

    You can always imagine scenario where Spurs have contacted both Mahinmi and Bonner with one being the plan B or Mahinmi having turned down a Spur offer and Bonner being the plan B but it doesn't look like the most likely scenario.

    And like SenorSpur, I don't get why Spurs wants Bonner back. I could understand that they aren't high on Mahinmi. But Bonner...

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    Miami needs a few bigs...

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